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General => Armed Forces => Topic started by: Andcarred on Thursday 28 May 15 10:59 BST (UK)
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Hi All,
I am trying to find the baptism of a relative born whilst his father was a serving member of the Royal Navy and stationed at the Portsmouth Naval Base is 1836.
Is anyone aware if the Base had it's own Church or what would be the most likely nearest Church to have children baptized.
Annie
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Do you have any other details? There is more than one base in Portsmouth.
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Good evening,
There is only one Naval base but 2 barracks in Portsmouth and 2 barracks in Gosport.
There used to be a lot more but are now mainly closed down and used for other purposes.
This however is the base church; https://www.facebook.com/pages/St-Anns-Church-HM-Dockyard-Portsmouth-England/171766379500138
John915
Added;http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-474226-church-of-saint-ann-building-number-1-65#.VWeI443bLio
http://www.memorials.inportsmouth.co.uk/images/title.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Ann's_Church,_HMNB_Portsmouth
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Would you like to give the name and perhaps someone might be able to help you. Many navy personnel lived in the town and their children were baptised in churches in Portsea.
Nell
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Good evening,
These are the Portsmouth churches, "A" being the one in the Naval base.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01fdq/
John915
Ignore that bit, wrong church. "A" is down by the seafront.
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Sorry for not giving more information in the first place. The births that I am looking for are the children of Captain/Dr. Charles Sydney Inch/Inches and his wife Sophia (nee Peake). Charles Inches was a doctor and a ship's surgeon on several convict ships that came to Australia in the mid 1830s. He married Sophia in 1832 in Kensington South, London.
I believe there may have been 3 sons before Sophia died in Portsea in 1837, shortly after the birth of the last son. The only one I am sure about is George Sydney Inch as he came to Australia after his father died in 1851 and put an advertisement in a Sydney paper saying he was the son of Captain Inch and wanted to get in touch with anyone in Sydney who had known him on his several visits there.
Unfortunately George died in Queensland and as he was taken to hospital unconscious was unable to furnish any personal information on his death certificate which was filled out by the Hospital Superintendent. The columns for Marriage, Children and Parents were left blank, although they did know the birthplace which was filled in as Portsea, England. George as been described in some instances as a doctor and on other documents as a Bushman/Labourer. This does not seem to compute. As he was only a toddler when his mother died and his father was in Australia I am wondering where he would have received his education. I believe the Navy had schemes for educating the children of Naval personnel and I know that George has been described as highly educated.
Any information on the birth of the children would be gratefully received.
Annie
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
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Have you seen these on familysearch
Charles James
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF1M-B2V
Sydney Robert
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5F4-SYG
George Sidney
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JMYP-9KM
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Is this a prior Charles James or was he baptised twice :-\
Charles James Inches
Baptised 15 May 1833
Parents Charles & Sophia Inches
Fathers occ Physician
Abode Earles Terrace
St Mary Abbots Church, Kensington
Charles James Inches married Emma Mary Cockshott on 21 March 1857 at St George the Martyr, Southwark
Charles father Charles James Inches
Emmas father James Cockshott
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Neither of those churches are what would be considered garrison churches - just ordinary parish churches. Gosport is the parish on the western side of Portsmouth Harbour and many people who were connected to the naval dockyard lived there. St John was a chapel of ease for St Mary in Portsea, opening in 1789. It no longer exists.
Nell
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Thanks to all the knowledgeable people on this forum I have now found the baptisms of the children I was looking for.
My next query is one of the boys (George Sydney) was, on the 1851 census, a pupil at the Royal Navy School at Deptford. He was aged 13 years. As his father died this same year in Scotland I am assuming the school was for boarders. Would they have kept him on after his father's death? There would have been no money to pay school fees. Also I think George became a doctor like his late father. Would the naval school give medical training or would he have had to go somewhere else.
Carol
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Good evening,
The Royal Naval School (Deptford) was a charitable institution set up in Camberwell. It was for the education of the children of Naval and Marine officers.
His place there had probably been arranged long before his fathers death. He would have gone on most likely to become a midshipman and perhaps attended one of the naval colleges.
John915
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Looks like he could have been boarded out after his mother died?
1841 census Charles Street Greenwich
George Inches 4 not born in the county
With a family Joseph and Ann Unthank and family
Joseph was a Shipwright , both him and his wife were from Durham.
Jennifer
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Son Charles James born 1833 looks to be boarded in Scotland 1841 can not find 1851
by 1861 he is on Royal Navy vessel Insolent on Canton River aged 28 married 1st. assistant engineer
He seems to have married Emma Cockshott and gives his occ as RN engineer father RN physician .
Died aged 80 in 1913 Rochford district Essex, he was living in westcliff on sea.
Jennifer
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Thank you John and Jennifer for that information. I cannot find George on the 1861 census and I cannot find when he arrived in Australia. I am assuming he was therefore in Australia by 1861 otherwise would have been on the English census.
Carol
Brisbane Qld Australia
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Son Charles James born 1833 looks to be boarded in Scotland 1841 can not find 1851
by 1861 he is on Royal Navy vessel Insolent on Canton River aged 28 married 1st. assistant engineer
I think this could be him in 1851 living Portsea
HO107 / 1657 f42 p30
James Wearne age 34 occ Patten Maker bn Falmouth, Cornwall
Jane Wearne age 31 bn Cardiff, Wales
Charles Inches Lodger Unmarried age 17, occ Apprentice Engineer bn Portsea, Hampshire