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Title: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: ashlingb21 on Wednesday 20 May 15 04:02 BST (UK)
Hi!

This belongs to my great Grandad James Byrne from Arklow. He was born 27/08/1898. He was in the Merchant Navy and I do have some info on him but just not sure where to find info on the attached pic! Just don't know where to start with it! Any help would be great! Thanks!
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 20 May 15 07:59 BST (UK)
The ship
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/liverpool/HISTORIAN_400.html

And the Company
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Line
http://www.theshipslist.com/ships/lines/harrison.shtml

When are you hoping to find about the card?
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: ashlingb21 on Wednesday 20 May 15 08:33 BST (UK)
Wow that's amazing! Thanks you so much!
Well I'm just trying to find out as much as I can about my family history (I am researching my dads side of the family). I am just interested to know more about his life and all the voyages/trips he went on over the years. I am doing the research to help my dad out as we don't know much about his life as my granny can't remember many of the details about where her father went over the years and it would be great to be able to tell her all of this!
Thanks!
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 20 May 15 09:07 BST (UK)
This gives some of his voyages.
http://www.irishmariners.ie/searchdatabase.php?srch_surname=Byrne&srch_forename=James&srch_identityno=316299&srch_yob=&submit=Search
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: ashlingb21 on Wednesday 20 May 15 09:20 BST (UK)
Wow you are amazing at this! You know so much about it all and where to look!
Thanks you so much....really appreciate this! :D
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: Sinann on Wednesday 20 May 15 10:18 BST (UK)
Wow you are amazing at this! You know so much about it all and where to look!
Thanks you so much....really appreciate this! :D

To be honest I just googled Merchant Navy Records, the name of the ship and the name of the company, you just need to get lucky with the results
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: seaweed on Wednesday 27 May 15 18:23 BST (UK)
It would seem that your man was in the British Merchant Navy until at least 1945. So where are his records after 1921?
His MN records 1921 until 1941 will have been transferred to his "Seamans Pouch" Unfortunately this seems to be lost or destroyed (Along with many more).
His MN records 1941 until he left or retired from the service should be at the National Archives in one of two files.
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10988478

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10990379

Your best bet is to visit Kew or find a researcher to look for you.

You may be able to find his entire MN service via Crew Agreements but this can be a costly and time consuming procedure.

The record on Irish Mariners is available on FindMyPast includes a photograph.
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: ashlingb21 on Thursday 28 May 15 08:53 BST (UK)
wow...thank you so much for that! :D I will have a look at those now!
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: Joeyd13 on Tuesday 12 October 21 18:20 BST (UK)
Hi
Realise it’s some time since you posted... I’m wondering if you know more about your g/grandfather now & if his parents were James Byrne & Bridget ‘Biddy’ Farrell? My late grandfather was Joseph/ Joe Byrne the youngest of said couple, born 1905 & the two men are so alike it’s uncanny. If I can work out how to post a pic successfully I can show you. My grandfather was also a Merchant seaman.
I only have an approx DoB for James Byrne Jr & that he married a Susan. I’m hoping you see this sometimes I would love to hear more & exchange a picture!
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 12 October 21 19:20 BST (UK)


....I’m wondering if you know more about your g/grandfather now & if his parents were James Byrne & Bridget ‘Biddy’ Farrell? My late grandfather was Joseph/ Joe Byrne the youngest of said couple, born 1905........

For others helping, here are the Byrnes in 1901 census.
House 7 in Reilly's Lane (Arklow Urban, Wicklow).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Arklow_Urban/Reilly_s_Lane/1813836/

...and in 1911 census. Married 26 years, eight children born, eight still living.
House 13 in Lower Main Street (Arklow Urban No. 1, Wicklow).
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wicklow/Arklow_Urban_No__1/Lower_Main_Street/894662/

Their marriage on 29th June 1885 in Arklow RC Church.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1885/10868/5969016.pdf

KG

Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Tuesday 12 October 21 20:43 BST (UK)

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.......my great Grandad James Byrne from Arklow. He was born 27/08/1898.

James Byrne was born on 17 August 1898 at Reillys Lane, Arklow.    MMN Farrell
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1898/02075/1792147.pdf

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I only have an approx DoB for James Byrne Jr & that he married a Susan.

The James Byrne born in 1898 (above) married a Susan Byrne on 30 November 1927 in Arklow RC Church. His younger brother Laurence was one of the witnesses.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1927/09110/5295345.pdf


KG

Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: Joeyd13 on Tuesday 12 October 21 23:48 BST (UK)
Yes these Byrnes are definitely mine too! My grandfather is there on 1911 Census.
@ashlingb21 my tree is on Ancestry if you have access too, you can see what else I have on the Byrnes, Farrell families. Let me know & I can give you the details
I am struggling with Winnifred Murphy who married Andrew Byrne 24/1/1852 if you have any info?
We will be related, not sure what the relationship is?
Title: Re: Byrnes of Arklow...don't know where to start!!
Post by: Joeyd13 on Wednesday 13 October 21 00:08 BST (UK)
Do I have your permission to save your g/grandfather’s photo for family history purposes please? Will try & show you my Grandfather but I use an iPad & I need to reduce the size of the pics on file so will do so when I’m next on the old laptop