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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Hampshire & Isle of Wight => Topic started by: sandyjose on Sunday 10 May 15 19:12 BST (UK)
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I recently discovered that my Bunch ancestors came from 3 places in Hampshire.They are Bramshott,Bentley and Binstead. I have a long list of who came from where including burials.Does anyone know if any cemeteries in these places have been photographed and MIs transcribed? Thanks for any help
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Hi
There are a few for Binstead here:
http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/mis_bis/mis_binstead_holy_cross.html
They seem to be mainly for former Rectors.
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Keep a lookout on FreeREG in the future as new Records are being added all the time.
Records for Bentley have about 10 Marriages for Bunch Family members 1604-1768.
No Baptisms/Burials yet.
www.freereg.org.uk
Trish :)
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Knightroots only have one entry for Bunch in Bramshott - death of Sarah Bunch (no age given) 04/12/1765.
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Hampshire Genealogical Society do some MIs on CD:
http://www.hgs-familyhistory.com/shop/hampshire-indexes-on-cd-rom/
Nell
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Thanks for all your help. I have Thomas Bunch born about 1775.one of his children was Benjamin Born 1800-1857 but I can't workout who was Thomas' wife.I think his father was another Thomas. There are many records for Bunches from Hampshire but many of them are from Grately?whereas my Bunches were from Binstend,Bramshott and Binstead.Please can someone help me sort them out. Thanks
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Benjamin Bunch bap 12 Feb 1800 Binsted , Thomas & Mary Bunch.
I cannot spot any siblings for Benjamin. Have you found any?
Baptisms for any Thomas Bunch:
Thomas 28 Oct 1760 Binsted John & Deborah
Thomas 28 Jul 1780 Binsted George & Mary
Thomas 6 Mar 1781 Yateley William & Elizabeth
Thomas 21 Apr 1805 Yateley Thomas & Mary Ann ( also at Yateley to this couple William 1807 , Mary Ann 1809, Sarah 1811 , Elizabeth 1812)
It is reasonable to infer that Thomas 1805 Yateley is the son of Thomas 1781 Yateley. There is a Yateley marriage for Thomas Bunch and Mary Ann Giles 6 Dec 1804 which fits with the births.
The only marriage which seems to fit for Benjamin's parents is Thomas Bunch and Mary Lambole 2 Aug 1789 Binsted. If this is correct, Thomas , father of Benjamin , cannot be Thomas 1780 Binsted and may well be Thomas born 1760 to John and Deborah , earlier than you thought. If Benjamin was an only child his could have been a late birth to an older couple.
You may have other information that rules this out of course.
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Thank you for the records.Benjamin was born in 1800 and as far as I know his father was Thomas.Which Thomas I don't know,only that he would have been from the areas I mentioned before. I,also,don't think that Benjamin was an only child.I think he had several siblings.It would have been logical that he had a sibling Thomas and maybe a daughter Mary or Elizabeth as these are names used in the next generation.I don't know where the name Benjamin came from,maybe the father of a wife?
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Hello everyone, my maiden name was Bunch.
My father was Peter Frank Bunch (1935 - 2001)
And his father was Frank Bunch (dates unknown) He was married to Joyce Anne Crawford (1920 - 2001)
My father siblings were:
Violet Joyce Bunch (1940 - 2001)
David G Bunch (1937 - 1992)
Raymond C Bunch (1940's) Emigrated to America (?)
Derek E Bunch (1940's) Emigrated to America (?)
I believe originally from Brighton.
I can find no more information regarding Frank Bunch and I am hoping someone might be able to help?
Thank you x
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Welcome to Rootschat Karen Lorraine,
I see Joyces Death Reg Thanet, Kent.
I am a bit confused though as she would only be 14/15 when Peter was born. Is this correct?
Do you know where Frank/Joyce married?
I cant find a Marriage on FreeBMD.
Also your dates are out;
Birth Reg;
Peter F 1935
Derek E 1936
David G E 1937
Ronald E 1939
There are others but I cant post on here as they may be living.
Trish :)
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And his father was Frank Bunch (dates unknown) He was married to Joyce Anne Crawford
Can't see a marriage either.
Where has this come from ?
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Is there any way you could get your late Fathers Birth Cert from someone in the Family?
Or your Parents Marriage Cert.
Both should have info to try and track Frank Bunch.
I presume you never met him?
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Welcome Karen L
The only Bunch Crawford marriage coming up on Free BMD
Marriages Dec 1934
Bunch Harold E Crawford Steyning 2b 721
Crawford Lily L P Bunch Steyning 2b 721
Are you certain you have the correct names, birth certificate of one of the children will tell you?
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I see Peter F in Hove, Sussex 1939 Register. Only other Bunch is Lily P c 1915
+ 4 more people not noted as;
4 more people who are officially closed
I am no expert at this Register and dont have a Sub to Findmypast
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Snap :)
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Births Sep 1912
Bunch Harold E Harrison Steyning 2b 476
Marriages Dec 1907
BUNCH Frank John Steyning 2b 565
HARRISON Elsie Maud Steyning 2b 565
Just missed out a generation there Karen ;)
"Derek E Bunch (1947) Emigrated to America (?)"
Name Derek E Bunch
Mother's Maiden Surname Crawford
Date of Registration 1936 - Apr-May-Jun
Registration district Hove
Inferred County Sussex, Isle of Wight
Volume Number 2b
Page number 384
Name Derek E Bunch
Birth Date abt 1936
Date of Registration Jun 1936
Age at Death 0
Registration district Brighton
Inferred County Sussex
Volume 2b
Page 375
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There are 7 Bunch/Crawford Births FreeBMD 1935-1948
All in Sussex area except last in Surrey
Birth Reg Steyning for Harold E Bunch, Mothers MN Harrison
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BUNCH, FRANK JOHN, Rank Private, Service No. 4582 13/05/1915, Regiment 20th Hussars, Country United Kingdom.
Grave Ref Panel 5., Cemetary YPRES (MENIN GATE) MEMORIAL
Extra info;
Son of John Bunch, of Clapton, London; husband of Elsie Maud Bunch, of 9, Suffolk St., Hove, Sussex.
Source http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead.aspx
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There are also Bunch births in Thanet, that match the names and the mother is called Joyce father Edward their marriage in Thanet too, so we have a mix here.
Hello everyone, my maiden name was Bunch.
"My father was Peter Frank Bunch (1935 - 2001) BRIGHTON
And his father was Frank Bunch (dates unknown) He was married to Joyce Anne Crawford (1920 - 2001)
My father siblings were:
Violet Joyce Bunch (1940 - 2001) THANET
David G Bunch (1937 - 1992) HOVE
NAMES REMOVED IN CASE SUBJECTS STILL LIVING
I believe originally from Brighton."
Marriages Dec 1945
Bunch Edward H Sladden Thanet 2a 3715
Sladden Joyce A Bunch Thanet 2a 3715
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Aaah that makes sense larkspur :)
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Are the 1946 and 1947 dates birth dates?
If so, those folk need to be removed from the thread?
Jamjar
Added: also two possibly living in your reply #9, Trish.
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1901 Census
Hackney, London
John Bunch, 48, Head, Mar, House Painter, born Yateley, Hampshire
Henrietta J Bunch, 49, Wife, Mar, born Islington, London
Arthur J Bunch, 18, Son, born Dartford, Kent
Edith K Bunch, 16, Daug
Henrietta Bunch, 12, Daug
Harold Bunch, 9, Son
Nancy H Bunch, 3, Daug
All other Children born Hackney, London
1891 in Peckham. London we have;
John Bunch, 38
Henrietta Bunch, 39
FRANK Bunch, 9******
Arthur Bunck, 8
Edith Bunck, 6
Henrietta Bunck, 2
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As the poster is off-line I will bow out for now.
Yes those people should be removed I agree Jamjar.
Trish :)
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Karen, if you don't have it, you need your fathers birth certificate
Births Mar 1935
Bunch Peter F Crawford
Brighton 2b 326
your great grandfathers?
Births Sep 1881
Bunch Frank John
Dartford 2a 454
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Jamjar, I checked the names in Trish's post are all no longer with us, one dying in 2012 and the other in 1992. ;)
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Thanks larkspur, I had checked quickly, probably not carefully as you, and I didnt name the other 4 possibles :)
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Courtesy of FreeReg:
Oct. 19 1881 Dartford, Holy Trinity.
John Frank Bunch.
Parents:
John & Henrietta Bunch
Occ: porter
Add: 6 East Hill Villas.
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Jamjar, I checked the names in Trish's post are all no longer with us, one dying in 2012 and the other in 1992. ;)
That's good.
And the possible emigrating pair that you have copied to your post, are they also deceased?
J.
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There are also Bunch births in Thanet, that match the names and the mother is called Joyce father Edward their marriage in Thanet too, so we have a mix here.
Hello everyone, my maiden name was Bunch.
"My father was Peter Frank Bunch (1935 - 2001) BRIGHTON
And his father was Frank Bunch (dates unknown) He was married to Joyce Anne Crawford (1920 - 2001)
My father siblings were:
Violet Joyce Bunch (1940 - 2001) THANET
David G Bunch (1937 - 1992) HOVE
NAMES REMOVED IN CASE SUBJECTS STILL LIVING
I believe originally from Brighton."
Marriages Dec 1945
Bunch Edward H Sladden Thanet 2a 3715
Sladden Joyce A Bunch Thanet 2a 3715
NAMES REMOVED JAMJAR 8)
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wow!! Thank you so much everyone!
Just to confirm - everyone I listed is sadly no longer alive. I can't believe I posted my own fathers birthdate incorrectly!
I am aware that my paternal grandmother may be a Sladden rather than Crawford. We rarely saw my fathers side of the family but I remember the name Crawford but had not ever heard of Sladden.
As far as I know none are from Thanet but from Brighton.
I have been using the website Find My Past and on both Raymond (it is def Raymond and not Ronald Bunch) their mothers maiden name is listed as Sladden but on my fathers birth certificate it says Crawford. What I want to do it follow the Frank Bunch line for the time being, so thank you so much for the further information. I hope I get competent enough to help someone else out later on!
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It looks to me like 2 separate families?
Edward Bunch married Joyce A Sladden in Thanet Registration District, December qtr 1945
They had 3 children:
Violet J Sladden
September qtr 1940, but re-registered as Violet Bunch September qtr 1952
Raymond C
September qtr 1946
Derek E
September qtr 1947
Harold E Bunch married Lily L P Crawford in Steyning Registration District, December qtr 1934
They appear to have had 7 children:
Peter F
March qtr 1935, Brighton RD
Derek E
June qtr 1936, Hove RD - died same qtr
David G E
September qtr 1937, Hove RD
Ronald E
September qtr 1939, Worthing RD
Keith M
June qtr 1943, Hove RD
Gerald P
June qtr 1944, Worthing RD
Ann
September qtr 1948, Surrey North East RD
Are fathers Harold E and Edward one and the same person?
Was there a divorce?
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Thank you KGarrad for the extra info.
What I do know is the my father Peter F, Raymond, Derek, Violet and David G all grew up together in Brighton. However several years back my father found he had a sister he had not been told about called Ann. He always said his father was called Frank Bunch and his mother was Joyce.
I don't know any of the other people listed!
As I am very new to all of this could I ask how you found the information? Where are the best places to look?
Thanks again
Karen
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I just used www.freebmd.org.uk.
This is a volunteer transcription of the Civil (GRO) Birth, Marriage and Death Indexes.
Coverage of Births is 100% up to the end of 1962, and almost 100% up to the end of 1975.
Coverage of Marriages is similar.
Deaths has 100% coverage to the middle of 1974.
As has been said before, can you confirm Peter's father's name as stated on either his Birth or Marriage Certificates?
It would appear that it was his grandfather that was named Frank?! :-\
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A little bit more -
I found a marriage certificate stating that Edward H Bunch married Joyce A Sladden in 1945, in Thanet.
I will check out freebmd.
Thanks once again.
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Sorry but I can't see how to edit my post from earlier?
Karen
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You can only modify a post within 24 hrs of posting ::)
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Karen, go back to the specific post and use the 'report to moderator' to ask them to modify it for you? I'm sure they should have the ability to do so.
Jamjar
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Karen, you need to start at the beginning, or errors will be made.
Hopefully you have your own birth certificate, your fathers name , as you say Peter F Bunch.
His birth
Births Mar 1935
Bunch Peter F
Mothers maiden name-- Crawford
Brighton 2b 326
If you do not have his certificate you will need to send for it here is the easiest and cheapest.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
Once you know his parents names- for certain-you can move onwards.
As we have tried to say, there seems to be two groups of children here. One with MMS Crawford and the other MMS Sladden.
As KGarrard says were there 2 marriages with the same man and Harold E Bunch was also Edward Bunch. You may also need these certificates to see if his fathers details are the same.
Harold Edward Bunch died in Thanet, the marriage to Lily was in Sussex, did he marry in Thanet a second time to Joyce and carry on living there until he died in 1985?
Lily did not die until 2005 at aged 90. So either there was a divorce or a bigamous second marriage?
Lots of questions but only the certificates will sort it all out, I am afraid. No one ever said this is a cheap hobby :o
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Thank you Larkspur - the answer is I really don't know!
I guess you find 'skeletons' when doing this kind of thing.
I will look into everything everyone has passed on to me.
Thank you all so much I am very grateful.
Karen
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Hi Karen Lorraine, I have just seen your query on Roots. I too am a Bunch and believe it or not we are related. I knew your Dad, Derek? (we knew him as David) and Raymond? (we always knew him as Ronnie). Derek was well known in the Brighton Area, among many other things he was Lifeboat man, a taxi driver and a musician who performed on a keyboard at various venues. I would like to have chat with you on email if you are interested. Incidentally I don't ever recall David emigrating at all but Ronnie emigrated to Canada. Regards Mike Bunch
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Hi everyone!
I recently discovered a first cousin twice removed named Joy Mabel Bunch:
Joy Mabel Bunch, Birth 16 APR 1906 in Aldershot, Hampshire, England. I was also born in Aldershot, so I'm especially interested in finding out more about Joy.But apart from her birth to George William Bunch (23-2-1882–1964 born in Hartley Wintney, Hampshire died in Aldershot) and Mabel Buckley 1884–1945 born in Guildford, Surrey, England died in Windsor, Berkshire - my great grand aunt on my father's maternal line) I have been unable to find out anything further about her. The hint section in Ancestry only brings up other women with the surname Bunch, and no death records either. FreeBMD does not seem to have anything relating to her, either.
I wonder if anyone here might know anything about Joy Mabel Bunch? I have my fingers crossed...
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Re JOY MABEL BUNCH .... I have just found the 1911 census in which her mother and older sister Ivy Mabel Bunch age 6 are in residence at Barracks... so it looks as if Joy must have died between 1906 and 1911. Perhaps the family were stationed overseas and that is why there is no death record? I know with some of Joy's mother Mabel Buckley's sibling they were born in places like Spain, Gibraltar etc and those records were not so easy to find. So perhaps it is the same with death records.
The interesting thing is that Joy appears to have been a twin to Leonard George Bunch, who is on the 1911 census. My father was the eldest of two sets of male non-identical twins (born 1925 & 1932) so that has kind of answered another question - did twins run in my dad's mum's family? The answer appears to be yes!
So I think this query is pretty much answered, lol ... but if anyone does know anything about Joy Mabel Buckley's short life, I would be most grateful to hear it, thank you. (Or anything else about this part of the Bunch family!)
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Welcome to Rootschat EJACKSON58
Looks to me Joy/Ivy are the same child?
1911 Mother Mabel has had 3 children all living*******
Bapt image is Ivy Mabel Bunch (not Joy)
Birth Date 16 Apr. 1906 * see below
Baptism Date 23 Aug. 1906
Image also looks like born 16 April 1905**
Birth Reg
BUNCH, IVY MABEL mmn BUCKLEY
GRO Reference: 1905 J Quarter in FULHAM Volume 01A Page 365
Seems to have married twice;
1925 to Edward M EYCOTT
1968 as Ivy M Eycott to Stanley J HERBERT
Death Reg;
Name Ivy Herbert
Death Age 80
Birth Date Apr. 1905
Registration Date Nov. 1985
Trish :)