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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Katharine75 on Friday 08 May 15 14:34 BST (UK)
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Hi all. Can anyone help me....I am sure I have done a google search in the past few years for "The Craven Heifer" Inn in Denholme (I think it was located at Manywells Heights) and come up with a photo. BUT, now I search and don't see anything. Does anyone know - has it been demolished or why I can't find it.
Katharine.
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I can't give you a definite answer, but from a bit of research it would appear that Manywells Heights is actually in Cullingworth, not Denholme. However, I still couldn't find the Craven Heifer.
A 1990s map that I have shows the Five Flags Hotel at Manywells Heights, but this has now closed and been converted to residential use - see http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/archive/2004/07/02/8001089.Everything_must_go_at_Five_Flags_Hotel/?ref=arc and the images in Google street view. Might this once have been called the Craven Heifer?
Arthur
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I'll be over that way early next week. Can you post a link to the image that you found for the Craven Heifer, and I'll see what can be found. My father in law is also a mine of info. He used to be a bus driver...
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So it's not the Craven Hefer over at Addingham that you seek?
Brian
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Hi guys. thanks for reply. No not at Addingham. Definately Denholme. I can no longer find the image on the internet - that is my problem! Katharine.
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Try this link - something might ring a bell!
https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=the+craven+heifer+inn&rlz=1C2WLXB_enNZ570NZ570&biw=1422&bih=752&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=49VNVZioK-a8mgWooIC4Dg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAg&dpr=0.9
Jeanne :)
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Is your interest in the Craven Heifer related to any particular date or period? And do you have any names that are associated with it, or census references etc? Anything like that might help us to pin down exactly where it was, and then we might be able to find a picture.
Arthur
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Hi. I have reference to it being at Manywells Heights. I am looking for information on it throughout the late 1700s, and most of 1800s.
I have a reference for John ATKINSON, Craven Heifer, Denholme.
I am wondering if the Craven Heifer might have been run by the Pearson family at some time in the 1800s. I thought I saw it on google earth at one stage, but now can't find it. I am wondering if it might have been the one that people have mentioned as the Five Flags, now demolished. Does anyone have a photo of the Five Flags?
I know the Pearson's also ran the New Inn at Denholme too.
Katharine.
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Doing an internet search I also saw something mentioned as being at the Craven Heifer grounds at Cullingworth.
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This talks about sale of the inn in Manuel Heights,Denholme.
http://www.connectedhistories.org/Search_results.aspx?pc=Denholme&sr=bu&dtf=1624-01-01&dtt=1647-12-31&st=20
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The 1894 map of the area shows the Craven Heifer as being on the site of what was the Five Flags also at one time called Ripon House. All at Manywell Heights, half way between Cullingworth and Denholme.
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The Five Flags looks to have been quite extensive - see http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/697772
There's another photo, more recent and at ground level, at http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2505223
and the Google image is at https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.815642,-1.905252,3a,60y,104.76h,87.31t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1siuF67-AE75zU92AGd_rwbA!2e0
With this last one you can select images from different years, but there don't seem to be any from when it was still a pub/hotel. However, by comparing it with the view in the first link, it does look to me as though the bulk of the housing development is within the original buildings.
Arthur
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In March 1904 Keighley Magistrates refused to renew the licence of the Craven Heifer (Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer, 14 March) and appeal heard in April (Yorkshire Evening Post 8 April or Yorkshire Post 9 April). The appeal was refused.
If you can access Find My Past newspapers the April articles are well worth reading.
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In March 1904 Keighley Magistrates refused to renew the licence of the Craven Heifer (Yorkshire Post and Leeds Intelligencer, 14 March) and appeal heard in April (Yorkshire Evening Post 8 April or Yorkshire Post 9 April). The appeal was refused.
If you can access Find My Past newspapers the April articles are well worth reading.
By 1906 map the pub at Manywells Heights was named Ripon House -Could have been used as a private house or as a pub/inn after the refusal of a licence as the Craven Heifer.
http://maps.nls.uk/view/100946435
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I had tracked it from a Public house on the '47/48 and '92/95 map to Ripon House on the '06/09 maps on "maps/nls".
Also enjoyed the reports of Knurr & Spell (several spellings) and Pigeon Shooting matches at Craven Heifer Grounds - particularly in the 1860s.
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Thanks for replies everyone. Would love to know if anyone has a photo of the pub in the 19th century! Does anyone know if there would be publican licence records available? What would tell me other than who had the licence for that particular year?
Katharine.
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I should have also asked if anyone can see what family names are living there in the 19th century census records.
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Here are the 19th century census records - all use the older spelling Manuels Height(s):
1841 - can't see the pub, but Manuels Height is at HO107/1297/10 fo13 p18. (Occupant of Bar House, M.H. is a John Cordingley, who appears in next entry to the pub in 1851.)
1851 - HO107/2311 fo619 p7 & fo630 p8 - George Bailey, innkeeper etc; pub not named
1861 - RG9/3339 fo8 p9 - Sushannah (sic) Bailey, widow (probably of George); "Brown Cow"
1871 - RG10/4494 fo4 p1 - Aaron Bailey; "Craven Heifer". Aaron probably "Aran" in 1851 entry.
1881 - RG11/4471 fo8 p9 - Aaron Bailey; pub not named
1891 - RG12/3647 fo8 p10 - Betty Lund (widow); "Craven Heifer"
The Lund surname also occurs in the earlier entries: John Lund, a servant in 1851, and Allice Lund, a granddaughter in 1861. Might they all be related?
Arthur
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The tenant/landlord refused renewal in 1904 was a William Young.
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Katharine, the publican's licence had to be renewed annually by the local magistrate's court, known as the petty sessions. These records, which form part of the Quarter Sessions records for the old West Riding are housed at Wakefield archives.
http://catalogue.wyjs.org.uk/Record.aspx?id=P3
As for images, I remember it as the Five Flags hotel and restaurant, but architecturally, it really wasn't very interesting, and I would not be surprised if that building was rebuilt over what had been the Craven Heifer. I don't remember it being an old building at all.
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Here's a back photo of the hotel - bit distant though.
https://geolocation.ws/v/W/File%3ABack%20in%20to%20land%20-%20geograph.org.uk%20-%20697772.jpg/-/en#
Found this on a bus enthusiast's site
Five Flags Hotel or part of the building is in the background.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/thrashmerchant/4254182994/in/album-72157594542965463/