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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: Josocks on Thursday 07 May 15 15:12 BST (UK)
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In the 1911 census, there is a large house at 1 Dan Y Wern Terrace, Ystrad Rhondda which houses 9 people, all described as lodgers, and of varying ages and professions. I'm trying to find out whether this was just a large private rental agreement or whether the house was something else?
Thoughts much appreciated!
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Can you post the name and age of one of the lodgers please? So we can look at image for ourselves
1 Danywern Terrace was sold in 2011 for £85000 and is described as a terraced house -it doesn't look like a large house
Suz
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Henry King age 34 years from Bath Somerset.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01f9s/
9 rooms is quite big compared with a standard terrace house.
Sorry, do not know how much we can say about the occupants, or to look on preceding and following pages for owner etc
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It seems other houses in the terrace had 6 rooms and were private houses
Mrs Jeffery owned 1 Danywern Terrace -she didn't live there - but it was a registered Lodging House which had 9 lodgers
Mrs Jeffery also had Moss Cottage in the same area which also was a registered lodging house and had 22 lodgers
I don't know Mrs Jeffery's forename or where she lived
Suz
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Page 510 for Mrs Jeffery's name and granddaughter.
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That's really helpful, thank you. Out of curiosity (always need to learn more!) how did you find out that it was a registered lodging house, and the owner?
I'd really like to know why the couple that I'm interested in (the tailor and his wife) suddenly turned up in a lodging house in Rhondda. Was that a normal thing? I can't find them in 1901 and am trying to piece together their later lives.
Thanks all, you're marvellous :)
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Page 513 says Mrs Jeffery and 1 Danywern Terrace
Page 512 has lodgers.
Page 511 has Mrs Jeffery at Moss Cottage
Page 510 has her occupation as lodging house keeper.
Always search a few doors up and down to see who is around - on other censuses this can often be other family members, including children staying with relations on the same page, or even future husbands/wives.
If you see the other lodgers - they are from England, Ireland and Wales, so the tailor has travelled about the least distance of any of them.
Sorry, got to go, will try and remember to look for them later - could you just post what else you know about them so anyone can help you look for them?
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Many thanks for that, it's a good tip.
I've got a bit of their back life:
James was born in Llanelly November 1840, to parents William Morgan (also a tailor) and Elizabeth (nee Bidder). James also became a tailor and he and his wife Elizabeth (nee Williams, married 1868) moved to Neath between 1871 and 1874. The 1891 census records them in Llantrisant but I cannot find hide nor hair of them in 1901. Then in 1911 they turn up in this lodging house. I have no info on them after this date, just a list of possible deaths which are quite long!
I really appreciate your help, thank you.
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Sorry, cannot see them in 1901.
Have you checked out all the children, just in case they were (hiding, somehow) with any of them?
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Hi having same problem locating James/Elizabeth, but Jessie on the 1891 is aged 18 b Neath shown as Sister in Law to a William & Helen Derrick in 1901:-
Marriage 31st December 1894 Aberavon
William Derrick 20 occ Fishmonger Father William Derrick occ Fish Monger
Ellen Jane Morgan 21 Father James Morgan occ Tailor
In 1901 the couple plus Jessie are at 3, Hopkins Place, Neath
Census Ref RG13/5058/60/15
Keyboard86
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Yes, my hope had been that Jessie was still with them, but thought that that was probably her, so looked for them without her.
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Thanks for the time that you've taken to look into this guys. I've found Jessie in 1901 - she was the one who helped me to track down the whole family line there really as she brought the surname assurance; she's living with the branch that I am related to.
Took your advice and looked through the children - think I've found Robert but no parents. It's a mystery!
Thanks again for your help and advice.