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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: karen58 on Sunday 26 April 15 23:46 BST (UK)
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Is the Holden Smithy a small hamlet?
I have an ancestor, Henry Winterbottom, whose children were born there between 1822 and 1836. There is a listed building called the Holden Smithy at 23 Spurn Lane in Diggle so I have been assuming that this is where the family lived.
However, I have seen several parish records of people living at the Holden Smithy at the same time Henry was living there. Henry was a weaver and so were the others.
Hope someone can explain the confusion.
Warm Regards
Karen
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As your other thread Woolroad Saddleworth
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in this map link 1894
Above at 1 o'clock to Woolroad is Marslands
by the left margin in the map in link is New Delph
OK draw line in your mind straight across from New Delph till your are above Marsland on the map and you will find Holden Smithy
http://maps.nls.uk/view/100949105
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Hello Dobfarm
Thank you for all of your help. You have very good eyesight. Does the Holden Smithy look like a little hamlet to you? Maybe it was like Harrop Green and was a small community of Woolen Weavers?
Cheers
Karen
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Holden Smithy was/is part of Weakey hamlet in 19 century Newspapers (search engine ) refered to in legal cases as in Weakey. Hence how I found it.
Still there
Spurn lane
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.563996,-2.002748,3a,75y,195.49h,71.47t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s6uo7bwI7IS69KiGLh-ggBg!2e0
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Hello Dobfarm
Thank you very much. That has been very helpful. I think I can now assume that it is the name of the house at Weakey. Yes it is still there. It was heritage listed in the 1980's. But there does seem to be 2 houses. I think one is 23 Spurn Lane and the other is 25.
Cheers
Karen
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Hi, the Holden Smithy is a house in Diggle, Saddleworth. I live at the house and have some records if you would like me to take a look for you?
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I'm also researching The Holden Smithy, so this is extremely helpful! In particular, I am looking at John Holden, born in 1740, who lived in the Holden Smithy possibly as a child, but most definitely as an adult. He had 12 children with his wife, Mary Byrom Holden. Thank you!
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Hi
We have recently purchased 21 Spurn Lane, Diggle - and this was the old barn for Holden Smithy. We are trying to find out more about the smithy - which was a large collection of proerties - and these were at one time used as weavers houses. The barn was converted in the 1960s and prior to that was a textiles storage place - before that we no nothing! If anyone does have info about the smithy that links to the barn - which formed the entrance to the smithy where the horses came through - we would be delighted to hear from you! Thanks Jo
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Welcome to Rootshat Jo.
Hopefully others may be able to help you. As I am in Australia I can only find online info.
This is londonrochesters Family;
All info on FreeREG
JOHN Holden Baptised 13 Apr 1740, St Chad, Saddleworth
Parents JAMES/MARY
Abode Holden's
Fathers Occp Clothier
Siblings;
abode in brackets
JAMES 11 Jul 1742 (Holden's)
PAUL 04 Nov 1744 (Davy Smithy)
SILAS 17 May 1747 (Dig-lee)
THOMAS 14 Jan 1749/50 (Dig-lee)
ABIGAIL 14 Jun 1752 (Diglee)
ALICE 19 Oct 1755 (David Smithy)
James HOLDEN, Clothier, abode Davy-smithy, married Mary BRADBURY, Spinster, abode Gatehead,
05 Jul 1739 St Chad
Burial St Chad;
MARY Holden, Wife of JAMES, a Clothier, 13 Nov 1787, abode Holden Smithy
Baptism St Chad
JOHN 06 Sep 1761 son of Paul HOLDEN and Sarah KENWORTHEY
Mother shown as 'spinster** of Holden's'
Father a Clothier, abode Holdens
Paul married Mary PILLING 07 Aug 1765
Trish :)
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John Holden and Mary Byrom were my 5th great grandparents. I descend from their son Benjamin who emigrated to America in 1818 with his family. John was the son of James b. 1714 and Mary Bradbury. I would love to find more info on the parents of James and Mary.
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Cant seem to find a James Holden or variants 1710-1719 Baptism in Yorkshire.
Possible for Mary;
Mary BREDBURY Bapt 05 May 1717 St Chad, Saddleworth
Father THO
(FreeREG)