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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: firefly74 on Sunday 26 April 15 22:44 BST (UK)
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My great grandfather’s brother David Scarlett was in the NZ Medical Corps during WWI. He was in and out of hospital with ear infections and the last time he was discharged he was based at Sutton Coldfield (then in Warwickshire, now part of Birmingham, I think). He arrived back in NZ and within a few months was on a ship back to England, arriving 1 Dec 1920. I found this newspaper article in the Tamworth Herald, 2 April 1921:
”On the report of the Sutton Coldfield Relief Committee Mr Felton referred to the case of David Scarlett, who he said was a New Zealand soldier and committed suicide. He was buried at Sutton Coldfield with due reverence in a private grave, and their officer attended"
I would like to find out what more I can about him and what happened to him. Firstly, does anyone know why he was at Sutton Coldfield? Was it an army base? What would he have been doing there? Was there still an NZ presence there in 1921, I wondered this because of the phrase “and their officer attended”.
I have a copy of his will which was written when he signed up, but it has no details about his death apart from that he died 18 March 1921. He left everything to a younger brother. I located his death on the GRO index and will order the certificate. Attached is a portion of his service record that mentions Sutton Coldfield.
Thank you
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Yes NZ troops were stationed here ...also convalesced hopefully I've attached a pic.
He isn't on CWGC so may have been returning as a civilian.... maybe he met someone whilst stationed here... or he may have been missed if death cert says he was serving you could submit to CWGC for inclusion on debt of honour as it fits into CWGC cut off date.
Ady
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Hi Ady
Thank you so much for that, that's quite a moving plaque. I was wrong that he went back within a few months, it was actually a year and a few months. He embarked for NZ in July 1919 NZ and was discharged 23/9/1919 when he arrived home. So he did return as a civilian, but even so from the newspaper article it sounds like he was given a burial with army presence.
I have also wondered if he had met someone and went back for her but she had moved on. Whatever happened, it's a sad story. Hopefully I can get more information from his death cert.
Thank you very much
Helen,
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Helen
I would read the newspaper article as saying that an officer of the SC Relief Committee attended the funeral, and not an army officer.
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Yes, after reading it again I think you're right. That does make more sense!
Thanks :)
Helen
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There's a report of the inquest in the Leamington Spa Courier of 25 March 1921 "Inmate's Suicide at Hatton Asylum" on page 2. Insanity thought to be the result of a love affair.
Link to image on FindMyPast: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/bna/viewarticle?id=bl%2f0000635%2f19210325%2f045
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Thanks very much for finding the inquest! It makes for sad reading though, it sounds like he was heartbroken.
Thank you
Helen
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Hi Helen
It's a bit of a long shot but Warwickshire Archives appear to have the records from Hatton Asylum, they might be able to help further although some things could be 'closed' until 2021 (100 years rule). They might open the records for you on production of the death certificate.
http://heritage.warwickshire.gov.uk/warwickshire-county-record-office/
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Thanks very much, Dawn. I will check it out.
Cheers
Helen
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Hello Helen
I may be telling you what you already know but David Scarlett came from Karamea in northern Buller, NZ and was a member of the Brethren Fellowship, often referred to as Exclusive Brethren these days. He was the third of fifteen children and there are lots of relatives still living in Buller.
Im not aware whether you are a member of the Brethren youself, but if you are, you will know that there is a series of volumes written about the Brethren during wars. If you aren't a Brethren your local library may be able to get it for you. Its called At the Front and it runs to about 50 volumes I gather but the one you want is Volume 16 which has a chapter on David Scarlett.
I tried to read the inquest report but the link wouldn't open for me and neither I nor our local library have a subscription to Find my past.
i can possibly give you a bit more information on the family if you want it. If you're interested, send me an email.
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Hi Darrelle
Thanks very much for posting. No we aren't Brethren, but I was aware that David Scarlett was and that he objected to signing up. We have lots of details about his family but I don't know much about him would be very interested to learn more. I have the inquest and his death certificate that I'm happy to share.
In order to send or receive a message a new rootschat user has to post three times. If you wouldn't mind posting two more times, a smily face will do, then I can send you my email address.
Cheers
Helen
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OK
I must be pretty dumb. It took me ages to work out how to do this
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Same again
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Great :)
I will send you a message with my email address that you should find in the "my messages" tab above.
Thanks
Helen