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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: tracy67 on Sunday 26 April 15 13:48 BST (UK)
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Hello Researchers,
if anyone can help me as I am trying to find information on the following:
William Florance (was medical practitioner)who married Eliza Hession in England somewhere had a son call Alfred Harrall Florance d: 1st June 1897 leichhardt nsw and 1st wife Emily Bosher and 2nd wife Frances edith Bussell.
what am needing is when family came to Australia and where?
Also did William Florance siblings come to Australia ?
Alfred Harrall Florance siblings did and who are they come to Australia?
As I have a big gaps??
I have Florance in SA and QLD and NSW trying to find link!!
I know this sounds and looks messy any help would be appreciated.
Regards
Tracy
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How old was Alfred when he died in 1897
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Age 53
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According to one online tree Alfred's parents were William Florance and Eliza Lola Messena who had 19 children. Before you get too excited about this tree... Aldred's death given as 1 Jun 1897 in Sydney, Stutsman, North Dakota, United States. Like all online trees you need to be very cautious. I found at least 20 other trees with similar details (hard to know who copied who here) but didn't bother looking more closely at them.
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The tree that aghadowey mentioned has a copy of the wedding document giving a date of 17/9/1827 Parish Westham County Essex to Eliza Lola Messena ..but as he said you need to be cautious ..
I assume you have the family in the census forms they were still here on the 1851 census living Everton Lancashire
Fanny Florence occupation governess and Matilda domestic servant . Mary all left Southampton on the ship Maria Hay arriving Geelong 17/8/1855 ...going to their father
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Hi
No I do not a copy of census, can you email to me? anything as I firstly need to know Alfred Harrall Florance siblings and see if match up with some Florance I have here.
Thanks
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If you send me P M with your e=mail address I will send you the details
Rosie :)
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It may be helpful if the information is posted on here in case someone else is looking for it in the future.
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This looks like the family in the 1841 census at East Street Corfe Castle Dorset
Willm Florence b 1801 age 40 Surgeon
Eliza Florence b 1811 age 30
James Florence b 1828 age 13
William b 1830 age 11
Roland b 1832 age 9 he is also on the passenger list 17 August 1855 ship Maria Hay ( carpenter )
Henry b 1834 age 7
Rachael b 1835 age 6
Fanny b 1836 age 5
Matilda b 1837 age 4
Mary 1839 age 2
Herbert b 1840 age 8months
Elizabeth Orchard b 1826 age 15
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1851 Census Civil Parish Everton Lancashire Piece 2190 Folio 23
Eliza Florence Head age 39 Surgeon's wife b 1812 B Subject Germany
James Florence 22 b Corfe Castle Dorset
Rachael Florence 15 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Fanny Florence 14 '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Matilda Florence 13''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Mary Florence 12 ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Hubert Florence 11''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Sarah Florence 10'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''
Egbert Florence 9 b Cheshire
Kate Florence 1 b London
Charles Florence 4 b London
1851 Census looks like the father William Florence b 1801 Chichester Sussex age 50 ( surgeon & apothecary )..visitor at the home of a Maria Halford b 1801 Ireland
Civil Parish Wolverhampton Staffordshire
Piece 2018 Folio 67
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Most of the children baptised Corfe Castle father William Florence ( surgeon ) mother Eliza :)
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Rosie 17,
This is excellent, regards the William Florance B:1801
You may have filled some gaps as I have the following;
William pearce florance b:1814 who married Eliza jane hammond
William florance b:1832 or is it 1830? m: Ann Burcher
Do You Know If this birth of the William who married ann burcher
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Rosie I was going to ask do you know Williams wife maiden name Eliza ? the ones on the census.
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According to the tree we spoke about in the other posts it was Eliza Lola Messena ...Death Eliza Florence 1892 Bairnsdale Victoria birth year 1807 age 85 ..Buried 22/6/1892 Bairnsdale Cemetery
Section Roman Catholic father's name Louis Messeina ..Just checked the death certificate from this tree to confirm ..Same father listed he was an army surgeon mother's name unknown
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ok thank you Rosie
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The death record in Victoria 1867 for William Florance gives his age as 67 a birth year of 1800
Father James ..Mother Charlotte Dally
Baptism going by the information on the 1851 census where he was born Chichester
Non Conformist Registers
William son of James & Charlotte Florance b 5th Jan 1800 christened 10 March 1800
Chichester Sussex Denomination Presbyterian
There was also another William Edward Florance baptised 30/8/1796 father James mother Charlotte ...Looks like this one died ?
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Marriage for James Florance 1793 St Peter the great on sub deanery of Chichester Sussex
12/7/1793 to Charlotte Dally
Burial record James Florance b 1772 died age 66 burial date 13/6/1838 Canford Magna Dorset
Charlotte Florance b 1768 die age 63 burial date 24/10/1831 Canford Magna Dorset
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Alfred Harrall Florance d: 1st June 1897 age 53 - which would make his year of birth approx 1844. If his parents were William & Eliza that Rosie found why isn't he with them all in 1851 ???
A very confused Rosie99 ;D
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Not even seeing a birth record for him but several trees have a birth 17/4/1844 England ? so where is he ?1851
This might be him on the passenger list departing Plymouth Alfo Florance age 12 arrival Jan 1855 Port Philip Bay ship Medway travelling with Hubert age 13 ???
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Egberts middle name is Harral and the year is about right, maybe the census age is wrong
Birth June qtr 1845
Egbert Harral Florence
Gt Boughton 19 50
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The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) Wed 2 Jun 1897
Page 10
FLORANCE. —The FRIENDS of the late Mr. ALFRED FLORANCE are kindly invited to attend his Funeral, which will move from his late residence, 38 Arthur-street, Leichhardt, THIS (Wednesday) AFTERNOON, at quarter
Rookwood Cemetery
Name Age Date Of Death Date Of Interment Area Section Grave Number
ALFRED H FLORANCE 53 2/06/1897 Zone C RRRR 129
The Sydney Morning Herald (NSW : 1842 - 1954) View title info Wed 21 Jul 1943 Page 12
Fannie Edith widow of the late Alfred Harrall Florance, M D and beloved mother of
Mabel(Mrs. Atkins), Ruby (Mrs. Payne), and Kathleen (Mrs Keating) aged 83 (sic) years.