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Hallo Anybody
i cannot find his birth record or his inclusion in the 1891 census.
he appears in death records, 1901 census in margate, 1911 in ecclesfield and his marriage to helena pack.
the summary of the above records ;
born 1881, ecclesfield/wortley/lane end/chapelford all suburbs of modern sheffield.
1901 census shows birthplace as brixton, london.
Born in 1881, probably too late for the 1881 census, but there was only one slaughter family registered as resident in sheffield;
john slaughter 1812 brentford middx
elizabeth (nee stow) 1826
and five children born in yorks.
if he were born to this couple, the mother would be 55 years old.
can anybody trace him for me please ?
Slod Junior
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I THINK he may have been born as George Percy SCHLOTHAU*R Sept Qtr 1880 Lambeth.
Walter EVERETT and wife Mary Ann(nee OLIVER)-the people with whom he appears in 1901 married in Lambeth in 1885. Walter's father was listed as William EVERETT,a butcher.
Harriet EVERETT (father William,a butcher) married Frederick George SCHLOTHAUER in Lambeth 1879.
Haven't found them in 1881 as yet.
Just a theory!
Maureen
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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X3LH-HW1
Harriet dies in 1886.
And I can't find Geo.Percy in 1891.
Maureen
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He's with his EVERETT grandparents in Margate in 1891 as Percy SCHLOTTMAN.
Maureen
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England Select births and christenings
George Percy Schlothauer
Baptism Date 1st August 1880 at St John the Baptist, Margate, Kent
Father George Frederick Schlothauer Mother Harriet
FHL Film Number 1866679
What Father's name does he claim on his marriage certificate?
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John Michael Schlothaner (tailor, full age) marriage to Kezia Harding on 3rd November 1851 in Parish Chapel, St Pancras, Camden.
Her Father William Harding. His father John Ditzich Schlothaner (deceased)
But in Warwickshire for 1861 census (Kezia from there)
Added:
Sorry, that might not make sense, have skipped a generation - John and Kezia have son George Frederick, I think.
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~~~~~to Pat. ;)
Thanks.
I was getting a little lonely here. :)
Am I correct in thinking that the OP is doing a ONS for Slaughter?
Hope we've helped.
Moxxx
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Maureen,
I did not know if I was trespassing, because once you had put 'George Percy SCHLOTHAU*R' the rest was very easy to find.
Which is why I have not posted a lot - leave it for OP to work out - more fun.
(Except that if he is not a Slaughter, does that disqualify him from the ONS, or can one 'opt-in'?)
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I do not know.
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WOW !
i am very impressed with your replies which are very thought-provoking.
who is OP?, is that myself?.
I expanded my research from my own family to a one-surname-study of Slaughter in England, independent of GOONS.
because I make my own rules, I include any twigs, branches, trunks or limbs which bear the name SLAUGHTER, some of my trees contain name-variants which change down the generations, eg slater, slayter slowther slauter etc.
The descendants in the 20th cenury use the Slaughter surname, so they qualify for inclusion in my research.
I have published umpteen slaughter and other trees on ancestry, possibly 80+
Because my only source of data is the internet, I exercise much caution to prevent inaccurate connections .being published. This research resembles a large jigsaw missing many pieces, without a final picture >
I shall certainly explore the leads you have all provided.
I had hoped to attach him to one of my existing trees, but shall PROBABLY give him his own mini-tree, if it proves to be viable.
Thank you all for your research, help and advice.
Slod Junior
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Yes, you are the OP (opening poster or similar).
Thanks for the explanation about who you include.
You say that your only source of data is the internet.
As you are doing a ONS, if you also make connections with people with Slaughters in their trees, do you not try and get copies of any birth, marriage and death information from them, electronically, to help with the veracity of your publications?
Just wondered. :)
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You're welcome.
It doesn't seem as though Percy G had any surviving siblings nor any descendants. (at least any that were born to Helena PACK).
Maureen
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hallo All
Percy George slaughter had one son from Helena Pack= Robert L W born 1943 portsmouth, hampshire who married Jill W Mitchell and might have produced Mark Robert 1974 portsmouth
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I have researched the schlothauer suggestion and decided that it is a red herring, as i cannot establish a connection between that family and the slaughters.
I have advised ancestry that the percy george slaughter living with everetts should be george percy schlothauer.
probably the error of an enumerator who could not read his own writing in his primary notebook/record when he/she transferred it to the official census sheet.
interestingly, george percy schlothauer does not appear in later records , was he interred, or became a german spy or what ?
i do examine any evidence which appears in the trees of other researchers, among which i have found too many contradictions and apparent inaccuracies
thank you all for an interesting diversion
Slod junior
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I have researched the schlothauer suggestion and decided that it is a red herring, as i cannot establish a connection between that family and the slaughters.
Slod junior
There is not a 'connection' - he alters his name to become Percy George Slaughter. That is why he (schlothauer) does not appear in later records.
You have also said:
'Percy George Slaughter had one son from Helena Pack= Robert L W born 1943 portsmouth,....'
Surely the Robert LW born in 1943 was from this marriage:
Marriages June quarter 1940
Beatrice L Pack Portsmouth 2b 1881
Robert A E Slaughter Portsmouth 2b 1881
Added:
Probably this man:
Robert Albert E Slaughter born 12th October 1917, dies May 2000, Portsmouth
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??? ??? ???
I think you've missed the marriage couple for that Portsmouth one.
NOT Percy and Helena.
PLEASE be very careful and remove the names/details of the (possibly still living) people that you have mentioned.
Maureen
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Sorry- ;)
I was almost done typing my response.
I figured it was OK to post it. ::)
Maureen
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There is a Robert A E Slaughter born Midlothian, 1917, according to Scotlandspeople - could be the Portsmouth death man.
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Hallo All, again
I certainly deserve the implied reprimand for considering the allocation of Robert L W to the Yorkshire parents.
You were correct; I had not come across the Portsmouth marriage; my excuse is that I am covering England county by county in a clockwise direction on a map, (starting from Cornwall), hence the Yorkshire aspect of my query.
One of your replies includes " alters his name", implying that it is confirmed somewhere, and not a product of logical deduction . is there any proof ? or confirmation ?
There was certainly a lot of anti-German discrimination in the WW1 era.
The final result of this debate is that I shall leave George Percy and Percy George in my rather large "unallocated data" box indefinitely.
Again I thank you all.
Slod Junior