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Title: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Tuesday 21 April 15 11:36 BST (UK)
Hello
I am putting together a family tree and would like any information about my GGG grandparents, John & Hannah PHILLIPS. They lived in Hanbury, Staffs during 1800-1900, approx. My GG grandfather was the son, John and so far I've heard of 2 daughters Mary and Catherine. If anyone has any info on other children and where they all went or the previous generation in the 1700s I would be most grateful.
Many thanks  :) 
Pete2
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 21 April 15 14:15 BST (UK)
Hello

1800-1900 is a little vague! 

Can you tell us when/where John & Hannah were born please so we get the right family for you  :)
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 21 April 15 14:19 BST (UK)
It might be this family living Hanbury?  Is that about the right age for your John?

1851

John Phillips 51 farmer
Hannah 44
Joseph 17
Mary Ann 14
Eliza 12
George 8
John 6
Catharine 4
Thomas 1
Henry Harrison 26 servant
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Tuesday 21 April 15 14:54 BST (UK)
Hello Milliepede
That was very swift work - thank you so much!!!  ;D
Sorry my initial post was so vague...I'm new to this so will
get better as time goes by.
He was born 1801 - that is definitely the family. Brilliant.
Do you mind me asking how you got the info?
Thanks again!! Made my day!  :)
Pete2
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 21 April 15 16:25 BST (UK)
You did ok I was being picky! but had to make sure of the right family so not to give you wrong information.

I typed in John Phillips wife Hannah living Hanbury (on ancestry site) and saw they had children with the names you mentioned.

Will see what else comes up.

Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 21 April 15 16:28 BST (UK)
1861 Hanbury

John Phillips 61 farmer
Hannah 53
Eliza 22
George 18
John 16
Thomas 11
George Carter 16 cowman
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 21 April 15 16:32 BST (UK)
1871 Hanbury

John Phillips 71 widower farmer
Eliza 32
John 25
Thomas 21
plus 4 servants/farm hands

In 1881 John 81 is living with the Allen family - Edward & Mary as father in law so Mary must have been Mary Phillips.
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: spendlove on Tuesday 21 April 15 16:53 BST (UK)
Hi,

1841 Census Piece - 976, Book - 5, Page Number -7
Hanbury Staffordshire

John Phillips   40  Farmer
Hannah Phillips   30
Sarah Phillips   14
Hannah Phillips   11
Joseph Phillips   7
Mary Phillips   4
Elizabeth Phillips   2
John Pountain   60   Ind.  ( This could be Hannah's Father)

Spendlove



Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 21 April 15 17:32 BST (UK)
There was a marriage to Hannah Fountain on a family tree maybe same surname as Pountain?
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Tuesday 21 April 15 17:40 BST (UK)
To Milliepede & Spendlove
Just want to initially say 'thank you so much' for finding this info out!! :)
Will take me a while to digest it all. It is actually quite overwhelming....a bit like
a detective story when all the clues stack up. One of my G/uncles was Percy Pountain Phillips,
so I know that name was special to the family. And I saw a post from a descendent of the Allen
family on this site recently. Wow - this is amazing. Thank you again for taking the time.
Pete2  ;)
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: spendlove on Tuesday 21 April 15 17:59 BST (UK)
Hi,

My pleasure Pete2.

There is a marriage on www.familysearch.org

John Phillips =  Hannah Fountain  3.9.1827 Hanbury Staffs.

This looks like a transcrption error for Pountain.

Spendlove
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Tuesday 21 April 15 18:33 BST (UK)
Hi again Milliepede & Spendlove
Thank you so much for this info!  :)  Really appreciated!
This really is fantastic research, so much for me to be getting on with.
It's going to be a big tree - there are a lot of children.
Thanks for taking the time to help me.
Best wishes
Pete2 :D
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Milliepede on Wednesday 22 April 15 10:47 BST (UK)
You are welcome, that's what we're here for  :)

Certainly is overwhelming to start with but there is a lot of information out there.

Let us know when you have digested that lot and maybe we can find some more!
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Friday 24 April 15 13:17 BST (UK)
Thank you 'spendlove' for finding this brilliant info.
John Phillips christened Feb 1800, Hanbury, mother Mary Phillips.  www.familysearch.org 
That is going back further in time to the previous generation!
Wow! :)
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Monday 27 April 15 10:24 BST (UK)
Thanks everyone on RootsChat for you help. My head is swimming with dates and ancestors!
cheers  :)
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Monday 27 April 15 10:25 BST (UK)
And very special thanks to BumbleB for travelleing out to Hanbury and photographing the headstone of GGGg-mother Hannah Phillips. The photos are on a different 'Topic' thread - St Weburgh's Church, Hanbury. I'll post photos here soon for anyone who's interested.  ;D
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Monday 27 April 15 12:49 BST (UK)
Here are the photos of Hannah & Cathrine PHILLIPS headstone and St Weburgh's Church. Photos taken by BumbleB - many thanks!!  :)
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Monday 27 April 15 12:52 BST (UK)
Pic 2
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Lynq on Friday 26 June 15 06:11 BST (UK)
Pete I have just found your entry in the forum.  I am also descended from John through his son Joseph born 1834 and his son Joseph born 1859.  Joseph came to Australia and has descendants here.  I am happy to  share information. Lynq
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: pete2 on Monday 29 June 15 13:33 BST (UK)
Hi Lyn, that is fantastic! Thank you for getting in touch. Your Joseph (b1834) was the brother of my GGgfather John. Since I started this thread I've found relations in Australia - are you aware of them? They are also descended from Joseph, so even closer to you (as cousins) than I am. Will try to get them in on this topic. So glad to meet you, will send you a message.
Regards, Pete
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Lynq on Monday 29 June 15 22:46 BST (UK)
Pete
I am unable to open the personal message, not sure why. I haven't used Roots Chat before so am just finding my way around. I haven't had any contact with other Phillips relations except immediate family.
Lyn
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: Lynq on Monday 29 June 15 22:50 BST (UK)
Pete I managed to get the personal message open I will reply soon Lyn
Title: Re: John & Hannah PHILLIPS, Hanbury, Staffs, 1800-1900
Post by: staffs_vic on Friday 15 July 22 02:13 BST (UK)
Hi all,

Only just found this thread so I'm not sure if it's active, but I am also interested in the Phillips family. My great-great-grandmother Ann Maria Yardley, nee Walker, from Rugeley in Staffs married Edwin Henry Phillips, who was born in Hanbury in 1870 and was one of the sons of Joseph Phillips and Ann nee White, and the grandson of John and Hannah.

I've looked up the parish records for John and Hannah and am almost 100% certain that her name  is Pountain rather than Fountain. I actually grew up not far from Hanbury and went to school with someone with the surname Pountain - probably a very local name.

One interesting thing about Edwin Phillips is that he seems to have been something of an inventor. He took out a patent for a hay and straw press in 1896, not long before marrying my great-great-grandmother.

Edwin and his wife had one daughter called Gladys May who never married. There's some evidence that she may have had a sweetheart who died in WWI like so many of that generation. So Edwin doesn't have any direct descendents by blood, but he acted like a father to my great-grandfather (his wife's son from her earlier marriage) so I consider him an adoptive ancestor! He seems to have been a lovely man from all accounts.

Happy to share further information with anyone who is still interested.