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Title: MBE
Post by: lasa73 on Sunday 19 April 15 13:54 BST (UK)

Hi all

My grandfather apparently received an MBE in 1973 for bravery in relation to Old Bailey Bomb.  I never knew!  How would I go about finding an article of this.  I have tried google.

Thanks
Lynnette

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 19 April 15 14:36 BST (UK)

There are online newspapers and the London Gazette, there may be details, what was his name
Stan

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: Alders on Sunday 19 April 15 14:47 BST (UK)

There is something here
http://www.historybytheyard.co.uk/gallantry_list_1970_0n.htm

Ronald James Arnold?

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: RJ_Paton on Sunday 19 April 15 18:24 BST (UK)

The London Gazette can be searched here
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/ and if it was Constable Arnold there is  quite a description of the event itself although it says BEM not MBE

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 19 April 15 19:05 BST (UK)

Constable Arnold got the BEM, not the MBE, and it was for "Tackled man who had barricaded himself in a house with two large knives despite the effects of CS gas, and who was later convicted of 3 counts of murder at Old Bailey", no mention of the IRA bomb at the Central Criminal Court, i.e. the Old Bailey.

Stan

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: dawnsh on Monday 20 April 15 08:53 BST (UK)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire_Medal

My father-in-law (ex RAF) received one, one of the 'benefits' was for us to be able to marry in St Pauls Cathedral; it wasn't till we got there, they told us it would take place in the crypt. We declined.

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: lasa73 on Tuesday 21 April 15 02:39 BST (UK)

Thanks for all the replies.  He name is John Alfred Stupples - something to do with driving a bus during the old bailey bomb in 1973 - he received the MBE for bravery. :-)

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: rolnora on Tuesday 21 April 15 07:43 BST (UK)

Is this your grandfather ?
Mr John Stuopples aged 61 from Ramsgate was driving a coachload of children from Margate Kent to look at St Paul's Cathedral when the bomb exploded?

http://the-old-bailey.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/eyewitness-accounts-of-old-bailey.html

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: ShaunJ on Tuesday 21 April 15 07:51 BST (UK)

I think it was a BEM - see https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/46310/supplement/6819

John Alfred STUPPLES, Driver, East Kent Road Car Company Ltd.

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Tuesday 21 April 15 17:08 BST (UK)

I suspect it would have been a BEM rather than an MBE! It seemed to be that people who were "working class" got the former, and more idle-class the latter! Sort of snobbishness, seems like to me. Good on him, though.

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: stanmapstone on Tuesday 21 April 15 17:16 BST (UK)

It was the British Empire Medal (Civil Division) https://www.thegazette.co.uk/London/issue/46310/supplement/6819

Stan

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: lasa73 on Wednesday 22 April 15 04:42 BST (UK)

Oh my gosh, thank you do much.  Yes that's my grandad, though they have misspelt his name.  I will print the article for my dad, he will be stoked.

I will try the other link tomorrow from work as I cannot open on my old laptop.

Thanks to both of you - you've made by day :-)

Title: Re: MBE
Post by: lasa73 on Wednesday 22 April 15 04:46 BST (UK)

Just used the husbands laptop and got the gazette one too - thanks again