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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Amanda61 on Saturday 18 April 15 19:43 BST (UK)
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I have a conundrum, Harnepher Watson born Embsay 1836, father Christopher Watson b. 1818 Cononley, mother Elizabeth Mason. I have a marriage for Harnepher in Adlington Lancashire 24 May 1858, father Christopher Watson game keeper. 1861 census gives him living with Elizabeth in Adlington, 2 children, John and Irving. Harnepher had a sibling named Irving. The census gives his place of birth as Embsay, year of birth is correct too. The thing I can't find is any more censuses after 1861, there was a marriage for a Harnepher Watson in Skipton in 1863 so I assume that Elizabeth died, I can't find a death for her, I can't trace Harnepher either, there is a death for a Harnepher in Pontefract in 1889 but despite searching on Ancestry there doesn't appear to be any further records. Could anyone help to identify whether Elizabeth died and Harnepher remarried in Skipton? I have the Craven Indexes, the church records for Embsay St Marys but there is nothing relating to a marriage, baptisms or death for him or a spouse after 1861. Thankyou.
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Also I forgot to add that his father Christophers occupation wasn't a game keeper according to the 1841 and 51 census he worked in the mills and he died in 1851.
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There's a burial entry for the 1889 death on 4 October 1889 at All Saints, Whitwood Mere. aged 53, abode Hunt Street
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Also on electoral register for 1887 in the same street
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1881 - Richards Row, Whitwood. given he has another Irving, could be yours although the age is a bit out?
Honmopher Watson 49 b Hemsley, widower, potter's labourer pottery
Sarah Jane Watson 15 - b Whitely Bridge
Fred Watson 10 - b Castleford
Irving Watson 8 - b Castleford
RG11, 4591, 32, 16
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1871 - looks good. In parish of Glass Houghton
Harphena Watson 38 - station master b Elmsall
Ann Watson 38 - b Skipton
John Watson 10 - b Adlington
Sarah S[J] Watson 6 - b Whitley Bridge
Mary Watson 3 - b East Syke/Tyke?
Fred Watson 10 Months - b East Syke/Tyke?
RG10, 4640, 91, 36
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I can see a marriage in Pontefract, Yorkshire for a
Harnepher Watson in 1887
and I don't know if this relates
A marriage for Harnepher Watson in 1915
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Harnepher Watson in 1915 is I think a grandson of the original Harnepher - he's likely to be Fred's son (see 1901 - Hunslet)
Frederick Watson 30 - b Castleford
Elizth Watson 31 - b Leeds
Harnepher Watson 8 - b Leeds
Andrew Watson 4 - b Leeds
Irving Watson 27 - b Castleford
RG13, 4195, 11, 14
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Possible burial of his first wife?
Elizabett Watson
Age 22
Burial 22 Feb 1863, Adlington, Lancashire, England
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Thankyou so much, I don't know why my searches brought up nothing, I subscribe to Ancestry and have found sometimes that the records are very difficult to find. I try all different ways of searching.
This is great! It certainly answers my question. :)
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A*****y has Wakefield Coroner's notebook 1852 -1909
There is this
"At the house of George William Evans the Golden Cock Inn on the 3rd Oct 1889 on view of the body of Harnepher Watson (deceased) -followed by an in depth report from a doctor of the heart problems Harnepher had
so it looks like Harnepher died at the pub!
Suz
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Oh wow! I'll have to try and find that one. Thankyou :)
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I assume you have this:
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Adlington/christchurch/marriages_1843-1876.html
Marriage: 24 May 1858 Christ Church, Adlington, Lancashire, England
Harnepher Watson - 22 Railway Porter Bachelor of Adlington
Elizabeth Dickinson - 19 Weaver Spinster of Adlington
Groom's Father: Christopher Watson, Game Keeper
Bride's Father: John Calderbank, Spinner
Witness: Nathan Dickinson; Margaret Dean
Married by Banns by: Thomas Carpenter Incumbent
Register: Marriages 1843 - 1876, Page 48, Entry 95
Source: LDS Film 1526077
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Thankyou I do have the marriage record to Elizabeth, it was Ann I was confused about, thankyou for your help though.
I have found the coroners post mortem report, fascinating reading, I didn't even know this existed on Ancestry. I do find the searches on there don't often bring up results and I end up not using the automatic search options as I seem to get better results that way but this one just didn't bring up anything except the Adlington and Embsay records. I love this forum, everyone here is so helpful and it's very much appreciated :)
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, so it looks like Harnepher died at the pub! >
No, that's just where the inquest was. Happened a lot in those days, The notes show he died at home. It also shows the 1887 marriage was Harnepher, as the records refer to Mary Ann Harries Watson, the widow and that they married in that year.
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Should have realised inquests were often held at a local pub
Suz
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It's fine. I found the inquest, very interesting I have to say, looks like he was a drinker with the liver problem. :)