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Title: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: genboy on Saturday 18 April 15 08:14 BST (UK)

Hi, I hope this is posted in the right place.....
I have tracked the Cruikshanks of Stracathro estate (Patrick & 3rd wife Marjory Gerard) but I haven't been able to locate their graves.  His 1797 Will states he wants to be buried with wife Marjory at Stracathro, but he died soon after in London. Can anybody lookup to see if one or both are buried at the Stracathro graveyard, or point me to somewhere that does.  He died very rich so the graves may be quite grand, if that helps.
any help gratefully accepted, thanks

Title: Re: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: breaky on Saturday 18 April 15 15:14 BST (UK)

On the Strathcathro cemetery map, the Cruickshank family grave, with both Patrick and Marjory there among others, is close to the church, on the right hand side opposite the gate - perhaps someone local might be able to help?  I'll send you a pm.

Title: Re: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: breaky on Saturday 18 April 15 15:55 BST (UK)

Have you seen this?

www.ucl.ac.uk/lbs/person/view/2146636926

Title: Re: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: whaap on Sunday 26 April 15 17:16 BST (UK)

Grave Stone, carved from Aberdeen Granite, though relatively recently erected
(1918) the inscriptions are difficult to read. However, I have transcribed in full, I
believe incorrectly.

In Memory of Donald Cruikshanks
of Gordon
Catherine Brand his wife
Both Buried in Strathspey
Their eldest son James of Langley Park
B 1748  D  1860
Margaret Helen Gerard his wife
B  1770  D 1828
Their second son  Patrick of Stracathro
B  1749  D 1797
And his wives
Elizabeth Davidson
Jane Lewis
Marjory Gerard
Their grandson James of Langley Park
B  1798  D  1842
Who are buried here
Erected by their Great Grandson
Augustus Walter Cruikshank
Of Langley Park 1918

Title: Re: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: genboy on Monday 27 April 15 08:40 BST (UK)

thankyou very much for the great pics!! and a TS !!. You're very kind.
I'm in Australia I'm not likely to get to Stracathro any time soon.
So thanks again.

Title: Re: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: whaap on Monday 27 April 15 10:22 BST (UK)

You are welcome. Considering the distance you are from Stracathro, I
post an overall view of the Church. The grave stone photo is the one at the
base of the right hand window. There is no evidence of a stone being in
place prior to this one.

Title: Re: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: genboy on Tuesday 28 April 15 04:09 BST (UK)

that's great! it's good to have the position in context.
thanks again for the outstanding response.

Title: Re: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: Forfarian on Tuesday 28 April 15 09:00 BST (UK)

I note that the item in the link referred to above says he was from Gorton, Strathspey; the transcription says he was from Gordon; and that he was from Strathspey.

There is a farm called Gortons in the parish of Knockando in Moray, right beside the River Spey. See http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.4326&lon=-3.3600&layers=5

This is just a few miles downriver from Grantown-on-Spey. I wonder if Patrick's "brother-in-law in Grantner" was actually in Grantown?

Delvey, referred to as part of his estates, could be Dalvey? See http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ1132 - this is between Grantown and Gortons.

Ringo [?] College has to be a mistranscription of Kings College, and in the same paragraph 'criter' is a mistranscription of 'writer', that is, a lawyer or solicitor.

Of course you may have all this already.

Unfortunately the Knockando parish registers were lost in a fire in the late 18th century, so if Patrick and his brothers were from Knockando, there will lmost certainly be no surviving record of their baptisms. There were lots of Crui(c)kshanks in Knockando.

Title: Re: Cruikshank graves at Stracathro, Angus, LOOKUP please
Post by: genboy on Wednesday 29 April 15 04:53 BST (UK)

thanks for local insight of the place names, it's very helpful when you're trying to decode the past from the geographical present, while on the other side of the world

TS errors; thanks for those too, I had picked up on those, but confirmation is valuable
thanks for your help I'll get back to you if I get a find.
cheers