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Hi
I am trying to find William Isaac Locker on the 1871 & 1881 census but no luck. I can find him on the 1891, 1901 & 1911 census. He married Mary Simpson 1886, Kirkdale, Liverpool and his father was noted as William Locker. He was apparently born 1861 Gorton, Manchester. Any help would be much appreciated as he has been very elusive!
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Hello,
Was there an occupation for his father?
Heywood
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according to this record he was indeed born 1861
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVHL-JLTX
I cannot find a William Locke b Manchester area on freebmd 1860-1862 ?
did you get the Gorton birthplace from a census ??
added - something strange here - every record since his marriage has him as William Isaac Locker
16th aug 1886 at St Marys ,Kirkdale ,Liverpool
all his daughters marriages and his death - all under William Isaac Locker - but no records whatsoever before the marriage ??
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFXR-LJ7
marriage has him as born 1862 / death has him born 1861
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The only possible connection I can see, which isn't too helpful is that there is a William Locker b 1842, Buxton.
1861 2941/6/5 he is a visitor, unmarried in Manchester
1871 3983/87/15 He is married, with two brothers (I assume) and living in Openshaw - close to Gorton
1881 4019/50/34 he is a widow living with his brother in Beswick, Manchester - close to Openshaw.
There is no sign of William Isaac. I haven't yet found a marriage for William. He is not the one in some indexes marrying Harriet Ann Moss in 1869- he is Cocker.
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This looks like the marriage Heywood
William Isaac Locker male age 24 birth year 1862
Marriage date 16 August 1886
St Mary's Kirkdale Lancashire
Father William Locker
Spouse Mary Simpson
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This looks like the marriage Heywood
William Isaac Locker male age 24 birth year 1862
Marriage date 16 August 1886
St Mary's Kirkdale Lancashire
Father William Locker
Spouse Mary Simpson
Sorry. Rosie,
We have that. I meant the William from Buxton who is in the right area at the right time of William Isaac's birth but no other evidence!
Heywood
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Yes realised that after I posted >:(
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Don't know if this is any help?
The William Locker B Buxton 1842 is with his mother and sister in 1871 as well as his two brothers. Elizabeth Johnson was Elizabeth Locker who married James Johnson after becoming a widow. Charlotte Locker b 1845 married a William Ransford in 1862. I noticed that Alfred Locker Ransford aged 8 is with her but she has returned to the surname Locker.
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apologies Charlotte married William Ponsford and son is Alfred Locker Ponsford. Ransford was index error :(
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Thanks momo22.
I wondered about Charlotte.
The Lockers seem to have relocated to Manchester area. There is a George with a son, John Wesley and I thought he was I W in census at first but found out he wasn't :-\
There is also a Devon connection with the same family, I think.
It is a coincidence re name and place but nothing else yet. :(
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Just looking at William Isaac Mansell born Chorlton RD (Ardwick sub district) in 1862.
William Mansell born around 1862 from Manchester is in the 1871 census in Bilston, Staffs with his grandmother Mary Lockett, and in 1881 with his aunt Caroline Skarratt. I don't see him after that.
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I wondered if he was the Wolverhampton death in 1885 aged 23 yrs but it is quite a popular name.
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Has this one been ruled out?
1881
28 Brougham St, Bolton
Isaac Locker 44 born Warrington
Elizabeth Locker 39
Mary E. Locker 14
James Locker 13
William Locker 8 born Gorton
Alfred Locker 5
Rg11/3836/80/32
Added: I don't think that its him is as he seems to be a lodger in 1891
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There is a William Locker in prison in Kirkdale in 1851
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The other William Isaac I had my eye on is William Isaac Edge who was born in Chorlton (sub-dist Hulme) in 3Q 1860.
I've just found this marriage on 30 August 1869 at St Andrew's Ancoats which adds a bit more interest to that one:
Benjamin Locker,21, bachelor, striker, 41 Buxton Street, father William Locker, wireweaver;
Eliza Dorothy Edge, 23 , widow, 1 Baker Ct, father Enoch Barlow, fustian cutter
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Hi everyone,
Thank you for all your responses. On the marriage certificate for William his father, William Locker is down as deceased and no occupation recorded. I have looked at the Benjamin Locker and Eliza D Edge line of enquiry as there was a William Isaac Edge born 1860 http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
but I still can't find him on the 1861, 1871 & 1881 censuses, and the father of William Isaac Edge I believe was George. And as I can't find him on any of these censuses with his mother Eliza I am unsure why he has taken the surname Locker?
Re: Heatherjulie - I have looked at this line of enquiry and have ruled this out