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Title: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Wednesday 15 April 15 18:46 BST (UK)
I am gathering information on Hull born Anzacs who fought in WWI for a forthcoming exhibition in Hull on The Gallipoli Campaign and the Peninsular War on land or sea. I would love to hear from anyone who has any information, photos and documents relating to the contribution of Hull born Anzacs who fought in this campaign to honour their memory.
Thanks for your time.
Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: warncoort on Thursday 16 April 15 08:13 BST (UK)
ANZAC is an acronym for Australian and New Zealand Army Corp so predominantly from those two countries but there were English born amongst the volunteers.Records are here but unaware of search by place of birth..https://www.awm.gov.au/people/roll-search/all/?preferred_name=&service_number=&unit=&conflict=0&op=Search




Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: whiteout7 on Thursday 16 April 15 08:50 BST (UK)
A list here Anzacs born in Hull, England enlisted in Australia:

http://honouringanzacs.net.au/search-anzacs.php?anzactype=1&search_text=Hull,%20England

Includes their service records
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 16 April 15 08:54 BST (UK)
Yes WARNCOURT I am aware of that thank you and thanks for the link and your interest....but it is known that there were many Hull recruits who were ANZACS can be found this great site:

http://honouringanzacs.net.au/search-anzacs.php?anzactype=1&search_text=Hull%2C+England

I am interested in photos are documents that people may be willing to share to honour theses brave men and would like to hear from descendents.

Added...Posts crossed. Thank you WHITEOUT for your interest.

Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: joboy on Thursday 16 April 15 10:32 BST (UK)
Pre google chrome (which I use) it was possible to search,using other engines,the percentage of how many British/Irish/NZ born Anzacs made up the force..... I remember it was quite high ...... sadly this is now lost.
Joe  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Thursday 16 April 15 16:59 BST (UK)
Thanks Joe...I will have a search and see if I can get some statistics...there was a good article in the Sunday Telegraph on 5th April showing the statistic for casualties in Gallipoli and I destroyed it during laminating  ::)
Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: tremal on Saturday 18 April 15 11:15 BST (UK)
My uncle was at Gallipoli and I have extracts from two letters he sent home?
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 18 April 15 11:20 BST (UK)
How interesting...I would love to see them...any chance of a copy to use in the exhibition in May?
Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: joboy on Saturday 18 April 15 23:03 BST (UK)
Thanks Joe...I will have a search and see if I can get some statistics...there was a good article in the Sunday Telegraph on 5th April showing the statistic for casualties in Gallipoli and I destroyed it during laminating  ::)
Carol
I found the link to that article;
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/keep-the-anzac-stories-alive-with-the-official-sunday-and-daily-telegraph-coin-collection/story-fni0cx12-1227299052884
I assume that 330,000 soldiers contained NZ chaps too.
Would be interesting to ask where they sourced their statistics and search further from that point.
If you are a contributor to the Daily Telegraph you could ask them where they got the statistics and if they advise a source you/we could explore it further.
Joe
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Nanna52 on Saturday 18 April 15 23:51 BST (UK)
I have just looked at the Australian War Memorial site and the 330,000 is the approximate number of Australian soldiers who served overseas during WW1

https://www.awm.gov.au/people/roll-search/nominal_rolls/first_world_war_embarkation/

Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: whiteout7 on Sunday 19 April 15 01:56 BST (UK)
I did have a look at Cenotaph data base in NZ for men that fought in WW1, born in Hull and found just one Fred Middleton. It has a great photograph and his WW1 records are able to be read at Archways, from memory he was in France and was gassed. NZ newspaper report show Fred Middleton had no relatives in the city he died in

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/search/?n=Fred+Middleton

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=CHP19190201.2.73&srpos=10&e=-------10--1----0%22Fred+Middleton%22--

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21375033&digital=yes



Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 19 April 15 10:20 BST (UK)
Thanks Joe...I will have a search and see if I can get some statistics...there was a good article in the Sunday Telegraph on 5th April showing the statistic for casualties in Gallipoli and I destroyed it during laminating  ::)
Carol
I found the link to that article;
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/keep-the-anzac-stories-alive-with-the-official-sunday-and-daily-telegraph-coin-collection/story-fni0cx12-1227299052884
I assume that 330,000 soldiers contained NZ chaps too.
Would be interesting to ask where they sourced their statistics and search further from that point.
If you are a contributor to the Daily Telegraph you could ask them where they got the statistics and if they advise a source you/we could explore it further.
Joe

Thanks for posting the link Joe...It's very helpful and I can use the details...I appreciate your input.

Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 19 April 15 10:23 BST (UK)
I have just looked at the Australian War Memorial site and the 330,000 is the approximate number of Australian soldiers who served overseas during WW1

https://www.awm.gov.au/people/roll-search/nominal_rolls/first_world_war_embarkation/

Hi Nanna...that looks a very useful link too that I will take the time to have a look around and see what I can use...it's so thank you too for taking the time to post this  :D

Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 19 April 15 10:32 BST (UK)
I did have a look at Cenotaph data base in NZ for men that fought in WW1, born in Hull and found just one Fred Middleton. It has a great photograph and his WW1 records are able to be read at Archways, from memory he was in France and was gassed. NZ newspaper report show Fred Middleton had no relatives in the city he died in

http://www.aucklandmuseum.com/war-memorial/online-cenotaph/search/?n=Fred+Middleton

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=CHP19190201.2.73&srpos=10&e=-------10--1----0%22Fred+Middleton%22--

http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=21375033&digital=yes


Hi Whiteout...I have found 67 pages of Anzacs from Hull on the Honouring Anzacs from HULL site...So far I have found 26 of them who lost their lives in Gallipoli.

Thanks so much for posting the very useful links...I will spend some time going through all the links that everyone has been so helpful in posting these for me.

That is a great article on FRED Middleton but he was born in Bradford...but I will still be able to use it to use it so thank you too for taking the time to post this useful info for me.

Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Sunday 19 April 15 15:26 BST (UK)
Hi Whiteout...I found the CWGC certificate for Fred Middleton and you were right...he was born in Hull...that wasn't made clear in the write up but his parents were from Bradford. Thanks very much for your time....you have found the first photograph for me of a Hull born Anzac who paid the ultimate price.
I really appreciate the time and trouble you took to find this for me.
Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 25 April 15 10:46 BST (UK)
Just bringing this back up as it is Anzac Day. Quietly remembering all those brave men and what they went through.
Attached is the front cover of a booklet that I have put together for a forthcoming exhibition in May.
Thanks for your help.

Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: jess5athome on Saturday 25 April 15 10:53 BST (UK)
Wow, I like that Carol.  :)

Frank.
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 25 April 15 11:25 BST (UK)
Thanks Frank....I have been really touched by some of the letters and documents That I have read during my research....it has been a very emotional and humbling experience that will stay with me for a long time  :'(
Carol
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: joboy on Saturday 25 April 15 11:32 BST (UK)
Just bringing this back up as it is Anzac Day. Quietly remembering at those brave men and what they went through.
Attached is the front cover of a booklet that I have put together for a forthcoming exhibition in May.
Thanks for your help.

Carol
Carol ........ that is just so lovely.
Joe
Title: Re: Seeking Information on Anzacs from Hull and the East Riding in WW1.
Post by: Treetotal on Saturday 25 April 15 13:53 BST (UK)
Thanks for the feedback Joe  ;)
Carol