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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: tullox on Wednesday 08 April 15 06:04 BST (UK)
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Hi
I have hit a brick wall with my husband's 5X great grandfather David Holland. I know he was married in Chedworth to Frances Robins 7th August 1758 and died /buried 2 February 1826 in the Northleach cemetery of the Chedworth Independent Congregational Church. The records has him aged 88 therefore giving him an approximate birth date of 1737/8. I also cannot find this France Robins although the Rob(b)ins family seems to have a number of lines in Chedworth.
I have all the children of this marriage but am wondering if anyone has come across an appropriate Holland family in the Gloucestershire area? There is one other ? clue. One of the children--Mary-- was baptized in Chedworth 1767 but born a couple of years earlier Dec 1764 in Faringdon Berkshire.
If anyone has any suggestions about lines I can follow I would be happy to hear from them.
Thank you
Sue T
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Hi,
I can't find a David Holland/Huilland in Chedworth. Don't know if this helps, but the only male Holland of the right birth date I've found is this one:
IGI:
Name:
Holland
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
24 Jul 1737
Christening Place:
CREWKERNE,SOMERSET,ENGLAND
Father's Name:
Robt. Holland
Mother's Name:
Martha
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00267-1
I have found a Frances Robins dau John & Mary Robins bap 6 July 1734 Stratton Audley Oxfordshire.
Following the Berkshire clue - there were Robins in Berkshire:
A Frances Robins was bap in Wantage Berks in 1727 dau to Thomas and Mary Robins. However, I believe this Frances later married Benjamin Church in 1744 West Hanney Berkshire.
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There are many Robbins and Holland surnames on FreeREG for Chedworth. There is also a Stephen Robins baptised 29/12/1704 in Chedworth whose parents were William and Frances, so possibly with a reuse of the Christian name a possible father of your Frances. A lot more research needed on this supposition though! There are a lot of children for David Holland and Frances Robbins on there also which you have probably got with the last one being David baptised 28/12/1768.
regards.
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Thanks to both for suggestions. I have once again revisited FreeReg and the actual parish records for Chedworth and surrounding areas and there are many tantalizing clues but no actual evidence. Many on-line trees have made assumptions without evidence--eg. that Frances is the daughter of Charles Robbins and Elizabeth Avery but her baptism cannot be found. I will now follow up suggestions and widen the field to surrounding counties(although I have looked there).
Many thanks for your thoughts.
Sue
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I have hit a brick wall with Rachel Holland who also married in Chedworth - to Thomas Peachey in 1767. Rachel Peachey was also buried at Chedworth Independent Chapel. By calculation, she was born about 1744.
I guess that Rachel could be a younger sister of David. There are also a few other Hollands who seem to appear in Chedworth around the same time - namely John, Joel and Catherine.
I'm not sure whether they have come from elsewhere, or whether there are no records because they were non conformists.
Ruth
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I expect that you have got Thomas's burial on the 14/1/1816 at the same chapel.
regards
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Yes, Thanks Paco. I have seen the burials at the Independent Chapel. Do you know whether any baptisms exist from the chapel?
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Do you use the Forest of Dean Family History website?
The records include: Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations 1747-1837 and Marriage Bonds 1730-1802
+ a few earliers ones.
These are very useful and include etc information not found in Marriage Banns - age/occupation etc i.e.
Marriage at Chedworth - 2 December 1749
William PEACHEY, Widower, occupation, Weaver, residence Chedworth
Mary ROBBINS - Spinster, Chedworth
married by Bond - he signs
witnesses: William HILL a Yeoman of Hampnet, S HUGHES, R HARDING
Memoranda: The groom and William HILL are bound in the sum of £100. To marry at Chedworth.
There are approximately 25 ROBINS and 25 ROBBINS : 18 PEACHEY/PEACHY/PECHY/PEACH listed residence Chedworth -
e.g.
2 July 1763
William TIMBREL - age 30, Batchelor, Yeoman, residence, Chedworth
Catherine ROBINS - age 25 - Spinster, residence, Chedworth
Marriage Allegations: Sworn before Edwd SPARKES to marry in the parish church of Chedworth
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Looking for family groups of HOLLAND Allegations/Bonds : 1758 plus or minus 10 years - there are 20 in total, the biggest groups are 8 from Maisemore