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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: george165 on Sunday 05 April 15 02:09 BST (UK)
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Hi all
I am after a will for a person who passed away in 1920 at Dunwich Queensland. QSA only holds records for 1870-1917.
Thanking you
george165
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QSA only holds records for 1870-1917.
Thanking you
george165
Why do you think that? The guide to Will and Intestacy Records is here and tells you what they hold:
http://archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/CollectionsDownloads/Documents/BG19Will.pdf
Some indexes are here, I would think that Dunwich is in the Southern District:
http://www.archives.qld.gov.au/Researchers/Indexes/Courts/Pages/Wills.aspx
The indexed entries for my family wills can all be found by doing a catalogue name search - have you tried that?
http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/BasicSearch.aspx
Debra :)
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Hi Debra
Thank you for your reply. Sorry I wrote the wrong info on Wills. It should have been Index to Estate registers. I have been into QSA for wills but the person I am after is not on the list. I have a copy of his register of death and his funeral which was on the same day. I also looked up some names on the funeral list about the same date but they were not on the will list. If you need a name I will let you know.
Thanks
george165
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George, was this person an inmate at Dunwich Asylum or did he live in the township of Dunwich?
My great-grandfather died as an inmate but as he had no possessions or any form of "worldly goods", had nothing to leave, therefore no will. This seems to have been more common than otherwise.
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Hi IrishOrigins
According to Electoral Rolls he was at Dunwich Asylum 1908-1919. His wife was living at Southport Qld with 2 children one being my Grandmother at this time. I bought a will for a person of the same name for 1921 but he died at Nundah Qld aged 27 yrs. He died intestate. This is why if he did not leave a will there should be some Court paperwork for his death.
Thanks
george165
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I must admit to being puzzled, because when my g-g-f died in the asylum there was no court paperwork that I'm aware of, just a normal death certificate issued. He had a wife and 5 children (my grandfather was the youngest), who were living in western Queensland and he, too, died intestate. Can I ask why you think there would be court papers involved in your man's case?
The Queensland Archives have a rather large collection on Dunwich Benevolent Asylum and there are also bits and pieces about some of the inmates. I have a copy of g-g-f's admission papers (but not the reason for his being there) and the record of leave he took during his "stay". These came from the archive. I also have a copy of the page in the burials book (held by the cemetery) giving the date of burial and the number and location of his grave.
I had almost decided my research had given me all there was to learn about this period in my grand-father's life, but if you have uncovered a further avenue for investigation I'd be really pleased to hear about it.
Let's know what eventuates, won't you? Please? :D
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Hi IrishOrigins
I bought a will for a person of the same name for 1921 but he died at Nundah Qld aged 27 yrs. He died intestate. This is why if he did not leave a will there should be some Court paperwork for his death.
Thanks
george165
I am muddled by what you are saying here.
Is this it?
The person for whom you mistakenly got documentation of some kind died intestate.
So what you acquired could not have been a will.
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Intestate
INTESTATE. One who, having lawful power to make a will, has made none, or one which is defective in form. In that case, he is said to die intestate, and his estate descends to his heir at law
What kind of court paperwork are you speaking of, please and why does it follow that such paperwork must exist in the event of intestacy?
Sue
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Sue, I think George meant that the will he got was for the wrong person, and that the man he's interested in died intestate.
It's the court papers reference that has me puzzled too.
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Sue, I think George meant that the will he got was for the wrong person, and that the man he's interested in died intestate.
It's the court papers reference that has me puzzled too.
No, that is not what the original post says.
Anyhow, Irish Origins will no doubt be back soon to clear things up. ;D
Sue
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Sorry I wrote the wrong info on Wills. It should have been Index to Estate registers.
Thanks
george165
Queensland Archives have indexes to Estate Registers 22/3/1870 to 18/1/1917. These are indexes to files relating to the management of estates of residents at Dunwich Benevolent Asylum.
http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/SeriesDetails.aspx?SeriesId=9640
"This series indexes files providing details of the general care, protection and management of the estates of residents at the Dunwich Benevolent Society. Under the Charitable Institutions Management Act of 1885, these powers were conferred on the Curator in Insanity.
Most of the files indexed by this series have been destroyed, although some files have been transferred to other series including Intestacy Files.
Details recorded may vary but can include year, number, name, date of admission and if file destroyed."
For records later than the above dates I think you will need to consult these two series:
http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/SeriesDetails.aspx?SeriesId=20333
http://www.archivessearch.qld.gov.au/Search/SeriesDetails.aspx?SeriesId=20334
You will need to go there in person to search the files or contact the Archives for assistance.
Debra :)
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Hi Sue and Debra
Thanks for your replies. I sent away for a will for 1921 but received Supreme Court documents to say that he was intestate. Not a will. The person I am after died 1920 at Dunwich. I do not know if this person is my Great Grandfather but his wife's son-in-law made a will out in Feb 1921 saying in it that mother-in-law was a widow. I did not get a death certificate as I had his death details from State Archives. I thought if I obtained a will there would be a death certificate contained in the will. I will keep at it.
george165
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Hi
Thanks for the clarification.
Can't help much without names and particulars of your people to work with, but Debra, as always, has offered useful tips.
Best of luck for now.
Sue