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Title: funny frank godfrey musical hall artiste
Post by: paston on Saturday 04 April 15 16:21 BST (UK)
Could anyone help me, I'm looking for information on Francis Robert Godfrey,(b.1865) , Nora Frances Godfrey,(b.1902)
Nora Paston ,  they were involved in the circus  equestrians . My relative James Paston married Adelaide Quagliani and Nora,(b.1867) was their only child . James was a equestrian comedian, Adelaide an equestrian .
I would really like some help concerning the circus involvement , could anyone find out what circus they were involved in? what circus was Francis in whilst in Switzerland ? also is there any information on funny frank and his son in the music hall ?
any help would be greatly appreciated
thank you
 
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Post by: CaroleW on Saturday 04 April 15 16:51 BST (UK)
Hi

Are you saying that Francis married Nora?  If so - where did they marry as there is nothing on freebmd.  Where were they both born?

Have you checked the 1911 census for them?
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Post by: paston on Saturday 04 April 15 17:15 BST (UK)
francis married mary nicholls who died in 1910, on the 1911 census nora is with francis, but we don't think they ever married .however nora died in surrey in 1954 age 86. she ran away from her parents who were circus performers, when she was 15. we don't know what happened to her until we find her again in the 1911 census. francis had a son in Switzerland so maybe she was performing in the same circus as francis?
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Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 04 April 15 23:34 BST (UK)
Bapt.Chapelry St John the Baptist  8/1/1865 Francis Robert Godfrey
Parents.  Henry and Annabella Godfrey occ. Equestrian add. Oldham

Jennifer
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Post by: jennifer c on Saturday 04 April 15 23:56 BST (UK)
In 1881 James Paston 34 born Norwich Norfolk and Nora 14 were boarders 13 Adelaide Hartlepool.

Jennifer
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Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 09:54 BST (UK)
1901 census in Glasgow, 140 Cambridge Street:

Francis Godfrey, lodger,   married, 38, circus clown, England   
Nora   Godfrey, lodger, married,33,    circus rider, England
Arthur Godfrey, lodger,   single, 14, schoolboy, Switzerland
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Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 10:11 BST (UK)
Consular birth: Arthur Henry Godfrey 1886-90, Geneva volume 8 page 2435  - you can apply for a birth certificate via GRO in the normal way.



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Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 10:15 BST (UK)
Daughter Nora Frances Godfrey born 1 August 1902, baptised at Holy Trinity Lambeth on 17 September.

Parents recorded as Francis Robert & Mary Godfrey, 23 Hangate (?) Street. Occupation comedian
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Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 10:16 BST (UK)
Per the later census there were 3 children living.. there must be another one somewhere.
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Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 10:31 BST (UK)
1914 passenger list for a Frank Godfrey,48, theatrical, on the RMS Lanfrano arrived Liverpool from Manaos, Brazil on 27 December. Address 4 Morat Street, Brixton.
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Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 10:44 BST (UK)
In the engagements wanted section of The Era, October 1899;

Wanted, known, Nora Godfrey, Trick and Scene Act Rider and Double Act Rider, also Frank Godfrey, Tumbling Clown and Agouste, with a number of New Entrees; after five years' most comfortable Engagement with F E Fillis esq, Will be at Liberty Oct 28th to accept Engagements Home or Abroad. All letters address Frank Godfrey, 1 Jervis Road, Lillie Road, Fulham S W
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Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 05 April 15 11:05 BST (UK)
Private tree on line for James George Paston 1847 - header shows Sangers Circus.

Jennifer
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Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 11:22 BST (UK)
The Era 6 October 1894, page 26:

"Frank and Nora Godfrey Liberty Oct 15th for Winter Season........Grand Circus, Shrewsbury"
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Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 05 April 15 11:24 BST (UK)
1871 25 Eyre Street Sheffield
James Paston 25 Clown Circus born SUNDERLAND DURHAM?
Adelaide 24 no occ shown Cuirie Italy  both shown as boarders.

1881 27/29 Seymour Street St.Pancras Coffee House
Adelaide Paston 33 Equestrian Boarder born Brescia Italy

another boarder further down William Mozley or Morley 50 Equestrian born London

Jennifer
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Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 11:26 BST (UK)
Another ad in The Era 5 May 1894 page 22 mentions that Frank and Nora Godfrey are performing with John Henry Cooke's Royal Circus in Leith.
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Post by: jennifer c on Sunday 05 April 15 11:42 BST (UK)
Franks father Henry Godfrey died 31/1/1879 aged 43 in Swansea large obituary in THe Era giving his life travelling around the world.

12 April 1856 Fort William Bengal Calcutta marriage
Henry Godfrey Equestrian father Francis Godfrey
Annabella Lackersteen under age father Seris or Leris Lackersteen by licence

1871 35 Nelson Street Gateshead
Henry Godfrey 32 Equestrian born Oldham
Annabella 26 Calcutta India East
Francis 6 Equestrian Oldham
Susan 3 Equestrian Oldham
Alfred 8 months Glasgow

Jennifer
Title: Re: funny frank godfrey musical hall artiste
Post by: ShaunJ on Sunday 05 April 15 11:48 BST (UK)
"In John Turners VICTORIAN ARENA, it lists Funny Frank. Clown. Born 1863, at Lees, Oldham. Real name Francis Robert Godfrey. Entered the ring at a very early age, first in a double act with his brother Harry.Soon became known as clown and auguste, later as a great vaulter. A famous trick was to vault over the backs of five elephants and a pyramid of men. An excellent rider, his comedy equestrian act "Madame Spangaletti, was well-known in England and the continent. Married in 1882 to Nora Paston, a famous trick act rider, who was then known on the ring as Nora Godfrey. In 1894 went to South Africa , taking their two children, Arthur and Lillie, remaining there for seven years. Part of the time he had his own circus in South Africa. Returned to England with Frank E. Fillis's show. Died on 2nd March 1932, at Mitcham, Surrey. Son Arthur Godfrey and daughters Mrs. Lillie Palmer and Mrs. Nora Fidler. His sister was Mrs. Humel, nee Florence Godfrey. Buried in Mitcham Cemetery, 5th March."
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/topics.occupations.circus/827.2/mb.ashx
Title: Re: funny frank godfrey musical hall artiste
Post by: paston on Sunday 05 April 15 17:17 BST (UK)
"In John Turners VICTORIAN ARENA, it lists Funny Frank. Clown. Born 1863, at Lees, Oldham. Real name Francis Robert Godfrey. Entered the ring at a very early age, first in a double act with his brother Harry.Soon became known as clown and auguste, later as a great vaulter. A famous trick was to vault over the backs of five elephants and a pyramid of men. An excellent rider, his comedy equestrian act "Madame Spangaletti, was well-known in England and the continent. Married in 1882 to Nora Paston, a famous trick act rider, who was then known on the ring as Nora Godfrey. In 1894 went to South Africa , taking their two children, Arthur and Lillie, remaining there for seven years. Part of the time he had his own circus in South Africa. Returned to England with Frank E. Fillis's show. Died on 2nd March 1932, at Mitcham, Surrey. Son Arthur Godfrey and daughters Mrs. Lillie Palmer and Mrs. Nora Fidler. His sister was Mrs. Humel, nee Florence Godfrey. Buried in Mitcham Cemetery, 5th March."
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/topics.occupations.circus/827.2/mb.ashx
thank you this is fantastic information  :)
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Post by: paston on Monday 06 April 15 17:45 BST (UK)
"In John Turners VICTORIAN ARENA, it lists Funny Frank. Clown. Born 1863, at Lees, Oldham. Real name Francis Robert Godfrey. Entered the ring at a very early age, first in a double act with his brother Harry.Soon became known as clown and auguste, later as a great vaulter. A famous trick was to vault over the backs of five elephants and a pyramid of men. An excellent rider, his comedy equestrian act "Madame Spangaletti, was well-known in England and the continent. Married in 1882 to Nora Paston, a famous trick act rider, who was then known on the ring as Nora Godfrey. In 1894 went to South Africa , taking their two children, Arthur and Lillie, remaining there for seven years. Part of the time he had his own circus in South Africa. Returned to England with Frank E. Fillis's show. Died on 2nd March 1932, at Mitcham, Surrey. Son Arthur Godfrey and daughters Mrs. Lillie Palmer and Mrs. Nora Fidler. His sister was Mrs. Humel, nee Florence Godfrey. Buried in Mitcham Cemetery, 5th March."
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/topics.occupations.circus/827.2/mb.ashx
Frank Robert Godfrey married Mary Nicholls in Huddersfield 1883, Mary died in 1910 and in the 1911 census reads- Francis Godfrey 45 music hall artiste - Nora Godfrey 42 (Paston) - Nora F Godfrey 9 born 17 September 1902 Lambeth holy trinity mother Mary Godfrey - Arthur henry Godfrey 24 born Geneva, Switzerland music hall artiste. b 1887 british subject by parentage.
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Post by: ShaunJ on Monday 06 April 15 20:54 BST (UK)
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Frank Robert Godfrey married Mary Nicholls in Huddersfield 1883, Mary died in 1910 and in the 1911 census reads- Francis Godfrey 45 music hall artiste - Nora Godfrey 42 (Paston) - Nora F Godfrey 9 born 17 September 1902 Lambeth holy trinity mother Mary Godfrey - Arthur henry Godfrey 24 born Geneva, Switzerland music hall artiste. b 1887 british subject by parentage.

It's all more complicated than I thought! Questions:

- Who really was the mother of Lillie and Arthur and Nora F?  (do you have the birth certificates?)
- Why does the 1911 census form (signed by Frank) say that Frank and Nora have been married for 28 years and have had 3 children?
- Are you sure that the Mary Godfrey who died in 1910 was Frank's wife? My first thought was that "Mary Nicholls" was possibly an alias used by Nora...who had run away from home in December 1882.
Title: Re: funny frank godfrey musical hall artiste
Post by: paston on Monday 06 April 15 22:13 BST (UK)
mary nicholls could well have been an alias nora was born in 1867 and would have been 16yrs old.
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Post by: paston on Monday 06 April 15 22:25 BST (UK)

james paston d 1901  aged 55 - Norfolk.  Adelaide paston d 1898  aged  46 - warrington.
Adelaide was from the quagliani family famous equestrians from Italy.