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Does anybody know anything about Rev Holmes and his family? He was born in Liverpool, England, in 1847 and died in Exeter, England, in 1919. He spent some time in Canada. His parents were John Holmes and Mary Ann Bayley.
I'm intrigued by his middle name, Forrester, and whether that means a connection with a Forrester family.
Brian Jones
Oxford, England
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1861 census
Class: RG 9; Piece: 2909; Folio: 10; Page: 34
Radford Street, Broughton, Salford, Lancashire
Holmes, Mary A Head Widow F 47 Fund Holder b Broughton, Lancashire
Holmes, John W Son M 15 School b Liverpool
Holmes, Henry F Son M 13 School b Liverpool
+ 2 servants
Next seen on 1881 census:
Class: RG11; Piece: 3101; Folio: 42; Page: 2
Smith's Lane, Snitterfield, Warwickshire
Holmes, Henry F Head M 33 Curate of Snitterfield b Liverpool
Holmes, Edith D Wife F 36 b India
Holmes, Edith L Daughter F 10 Scholar b Marylebone, Middlesex
Holmes, Gertrude E M Daughter F 7 Scholar b Canada
Holmes, Clement E K Son M 5 Scholar b Canada
Holmes, Muriel S Daughter F 3 b Canada
Holmes, Edward L R Son M 1 b Snitterfield
+ 3 servants
Which ties his time in Canada between 1871-74 and 1880?
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Oxford Alumni says:
Holmes, Henry Forrester, 2nd son of John, of Liverpool, gent. Jesus College, Matric 29 Oct 1867, aged 21; rector of Bedford, Quebec, 1874-76, curate of St George's Church, St Catherine's, Ontario, 1876-7.
Baptism:
12th July 1847, St Peter's Liverpool
Henry Forrester Holmes, son of John (Broker) and Mary Ann, of Dingle Mount, Toxteth
Marriage Bond:
19th April 1870
Appeared Personally, Henry Forrester Holmes of the New Parish of St James, Pentonville in the county of Middlesex, a bachelor of the age of twenty one years and upwards and prayed a Licence for the Solemnization of Matrimony in the New parish church of St James, Pentonville, aforesaid, between him and Edith Deborah Radcliffe of Cheltenham in the county of Gloucestershire, a spinster, of the age of twenty-one years and upwards . . . .
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Hi Jimson
In some clergy families, I have come across middle names that were not family names connected by blood but names of other clergy who were close friends, colleagues or mentors of the father and possibly godfather to the child. If you follow the career of your man you may find a Forrester clergyman in the picture at some point.
Venelow
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Not just clergy, Venelow!
In my family are several generations of Veterinary Surgeons.
The Baker family and the Garrad family were closely linked - to that point that there are to be found Garrad Baker and Baker Garrad, as well as both names used as middle names!
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http://www.randymajors.com/p/ancestorsearch.html
which is a very useful tool led me to these:
http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Bampton/Incumbents.html
http://www.bampton.org.uk/history-education.html
http://forebears.co.uk/england/devon/bampton