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Title: Drowned at sea.
Post by: Brosie on Friday 27 March 15 12:08 GMT (UK)
Apologise if it's been asked before.
                                                  Husband of my grand aunt was lost at sea 1935 would my
                                                  relative been able to get a death certificate?. I have the story
                                                  name of ship etc being Scot's what record if any would my grand
                                                  aunt have received as their wasn't a body.
                                                                                                               regards Brosie.
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: ev on Friday 27 March 15 12:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Brosie ,

Have you checked http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ for a death certificate ?




ev
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: tidybooks on Friday 27 March 15 13:24 GMT (UK)
Hi Brosie,

as Ev, says you may findit on the Index on SP, but the 100 year rule would prevent you getting a copy online, I think. However, if you could supply names, ship etc, others may be able to assist.

Tom
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: Brosie on Friday 27 March 15 13:48 GMT (UK)
Cheers for that Ev, no joy I'm afraid, remember my father telling me all my grand aunt got was a telegram informing her of his death.  :)
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: Brosie on Friday 27 March 15 14:12 GMT (UK)
Cheers Tom, SS Blairgowrie  on route from Swansea Wales, to Boston USA, February 1935 she was lost,  none of the crew survived, Charles Mcintyre was my grand aunts husband they were living in Stevenston in 1930.
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: ev on Friday 27 March 15 14:14 GMT (UK)
Tom , just to say SP online deaths certificates are limited to 50 years.

Seaweed is one RC member who is very good for seamans records.



ev
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: tidybooks on Friday 27 March 15 14:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Ev,

Got my 50/75/100 years mixed up.  Yes, 50 years for DC's.

Tom
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: tidybooks on Friday 27 March 15 14:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Brosie,

I have relatives from Stevenston and Saltcoats area, some of them are McIntyres, and some who changed their name to "Frew". This will be interesting.

Tom
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: tidybooks on Friday 27 March 15 14:47 GMT (UK)
Cheers Tom, SS Blairgowrie  on route from Swansea Wales, to Boston USA, February 1935 she was lost,  none of the crew survived, Charles Mcintyre was my grand aunts husband they were living in Stevenston in 1930.
Have you got a Date of Birth for Charles McIntyre, was he part of the crew or a passenger?

Tom
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: Brosie on Friday 27 March 15 17:52 GMT (UK)
Charles was born 1901 he was a shipright, fathers name was George explosive worker foreman, as many of my family were. Sorry no sign of any Frews yet.  Family story goes, a signal was picked up at Valentia island Ireland from SS Beaverdale that the Blairgowries steering gear had gone, I suspect the weather was really bad and these ships would have no other means of steering. (poor souls)
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: ev on Friday 27 March 15 18:53 GMT (UK)
Find my Past has Merchant Seamen's records -
2 records for a Charles McIntyre born 1901/1902 , birth county Ayrshire Stevenson , discharge number R116428 , BT348 & BT349.

http://search.findmypast.co.uk/search-world-Records/deaths-at-sea-1781-1968



ev


Added -
C McIntyre   , born 1902 , death 1935 , ship Blairgowrie , archive reference BT 334.
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: Baird on Saturday 28 March 15 09:32 GMT (UK)
http://www.plimsoll.org/resources/SCCLibraries/WreckReports/14095.asp

Baird
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: Brosie on Saturday 28 March 15 11:40 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Ev and Baird makes for very interesting reading.
                                                                                   regards Brosie.
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: tidybooks on Sunday 29 November 15 00:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Brosie,

I searched on Scotsman Archives, and found an article in Scotsman of 28 February 1835, which it listed the 27 crew missing. C McIntyre, was given as 33 yo and address was Harbour Street, Saltcoats.

Tom
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: jaybelnz on Sunday 29 November 15 02:18 GMT (UK)
As a British Subject, his death record should be on the Marine Register of Deaths at Sea. British Archives.  I haven't been able to locate that myself, but only because I'm useless - couldn't find my own GGGF death, (who turned out to have died at sea en route to Australia from England) but fortunately someone else was able to for me!
Title: Re: Drowned at sea.
Post by: tidybooks on Sunday 29 November 15 12:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Brosie and all,

Found the entry in Marine Register, said C McIntyre was a carpenter and a sailor, 33 yo and last known abode, 2 Harbour Street, Saltcoats. It also gave cause of death as "Supposed Drowning" as ship was missing never found. It is only a list of sailors dead and missing, it is not a personal death certificate. If you want a copy of it, please PM me.

Tom