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When Sarah Jane Coppock aged 22 Married Walter Thomas Howell aged 21 in Halifax , 25 June 1890.
on her marriage certificate her father was named as Moore Coppock a moulder.
I am not sure of her mothers name. I have no details of the Coppock family.
Any help would be welcomed.
Graham.
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who were witnesses at the marriage???
I am wondering if "Moore" is a mistranscription of Moses??
1871
11 Monkton Place Hunslet Leeds Yorks
Moses Coppock Head M 33 Potter Stock[ort Cheshire
Susan wife 24 Burnham Norfolk
Henry son 6 Stockton on Tees
John son 4 Stockton on Tees
SARAH J daughter 2 Knottingley Yorks
RG10 4513 199 24
Suz
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If Suzard is right Moses Coppock married Susannah Tabinor 1861 Hanley Staffs father Isaac a pottery labourer
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Hi Suzard,
Witnesses to wedding of Walter Howell and Sarah Coppock,
William Henry Howell and Florence Heap.
In 1871 Moses Coppock aged 33 and his wife Susan aged 24.
The Moses that married in Hanley 1861,looks like a different one.Susannah Tabinor would be younger.
Graham.
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Looks like this marriage is more likely??
FreeBMD
Sept qtr 1866
Stockton
on same page
Moses Coppick
Susan Holmes
10a 120
their 2 sons Henry & John were b Stockton
Suz
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If Suzard is right Moses Coppock married Susannah Tabinor 1861 Hanley Staffs father Isaac a pottery labourer
It is quite possible Moses married Susannah Tabinor 1861
then Susannah died
Death reg FreeBMD
Susannah Coppick Sept qtr 1863 Stoke T 6b 86
Moses then remarried to Susan Holmes in 1866
It looks very likeley that Susan Holmes and Moses Coppick were the parents of Sarah Jane Coppick
I have lots of information on Susan Holmes if you require it - her father was Decimus mother Frances ( Frances was 2nd wife of Decimus)
Just ask if of interest to you
Suz
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Hi Suz,
Sounds interesting, as they are in my late m-in -laws family (on her days in Halifax) it would be nice to know more about Susan Holmes.
Graham.
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Baptism
10 Jun 1847
Burnham Overy Norfolk
Susannah Holmes
parents Decimus & Frances Holmes
baptism of Susan/Susannah's older half brother
30 Jun 1833
Burnham Thorpe Norfolk
James Holmes
parents Decimus & Jemima Holmes
Marriage
29 Oct 1829
Burnham Thorpe Norfolk
Decimus Holmes
Jemima Leathered
Jemima must have died
Marriage
24 Nov 1841
Burnham Thorpe
Decimus Holmes
Frances Croote
1851
Burnham Overy Norfolk
Decimus Holmes Head M 38 lab Burnham Thorpe
Frances wife 30 Burnham Overy
James son 18 lab Burnham Thorpe
Edward son 8 Burnham Overy
Mary Ann daughter 5 Burnham Overy
SUSANNAH daughter 4 Burnham Overy
HO107 1827 144 33
1861
Burnham Overy
Decimus Holmes Head m 51 ag lab Burnham Thorpe
Frances wife 46 Burnham Overy
Edward son 18 ag lab
Thomas son 9
Septagesima daughter 6
children b Burnham Overy
RG9 1248 110 24
1871
Burnham Overy
Decimus Holmes head M 61 Pauper Burnham Thorpe
Frances wife 51 Burnham Overy
Edward Oxwith Holmes Grandson 4 Burnham Overy
RG10 1856 91 5
1891
Wells Rd Overy
Charles Wright head M 37 General dealer
Septagesima wife 36 Burnham Overy
Frances Holmes mother in law widow 71 Burnham Overy
Mabel Money neice 14
RG12 1561 84 21
Suz
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who were witnesses at the marriage???
I am wondering if "Moore" is a mistranscription of Moses??
1871
11 Monkton Place Hunslet Leeds Yorks
Moses Coppock Head M 33 Potter Stock[ort Cheshire
Susan wife 26 Burnham Norfolk
Henry son 6 Stockton on Tees
John son 4 Stockton on Tees
SARAH J daughter 2 Knottingley Yorks
RG10 4513 199 24
Suz
I can't find Moses and Susan after 1871 census
this looks like son John
1881
Castle Howard reformatory Welburn Yorks
John Coppick 14 inmate Stockton Tees
RG11 4814 55 24
and this could be Henry
1881
H M Prison North Allerton Yks
Henry Coppick Prisoner 18 labourer Stockton Yks
RG11 4870 64 22
There is at Northallerton Yks court
6 Jan 1880
Henry Coppick Larceny after previous conviction
sentence 6 calender months concurrently with previous sentence
wish I could find Moses and Susan after 1871??
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Thanks Suz,
Its strange tat Sarah has Moore Coppock as her father on wedding cert in June 1890 ay Halifax. Sarah s address was 39,Crossley terrace,Halifax.maybe he moved to Halifax.
Graham.
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First of all -BIG APOLOGIES - scrap all of the Holmes information !!!!
I have just found this
Friday 27 July 1866
The Durham County Advertiser
Marriages
16th Mr Moses Coppick to Miss Susan CARMAN
20th Mr David Stimson to Miss Susan HOLMES
I will look up the Carman information now --so so sorry
there is also this
7 July 1877 Gazette Middlesborough
S Stockton Police Court
A Warning to Parents
The following persons were summoned by Mr Nicholson the school warden for neglecting to send their children to school ........ Moses Coppick......... The Board imposed the usual fine of 5s.
More soon
Suz
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Looks like this marriage is more likely??
FreeBMD
Sept qtr 1866
Stockton
on same page
Moses Coppick
Susan Holmes
10a 120
their 2 sons Henry & John were b Stockton
Suz
EDIT : Moses Coppick married SUSAN CARMAN Baptism
10 Jun 1847
Burnham Overy Norfolk
Susannah Holmes
parents Decimus & Frances Holmes
baptism of Susan/Susannah's older half brother
30 Jun 1833
Burnham Thorpe Norfolk
James Holmes
parents Decimus & Jemima Holmes
Marriage
29 Oct 1829
Burnham Thorpe Norfolk
Decimus Holmes
Jemima Leathered
Jemima must have died
Marriage
24 Nov 1841
Burnham Thorpe
Decimus Holmes
Frances Croote
1851
Burnham Overy Norfolk
Decimus Holmes Head M 38 lab Burnham Thorpe
Frances wife 30 Burnham Overy
James son 18 lab Burnham Thorpe
Edward son 8 Burnham Overy
Mary Ann daughter 5 Burnham Overy
SUSANNAH daughter 4 Burnham Overy
HO107 1827 144 33
1861
Burnham Overy
Decimus Holmes Head m 51 ag lab Burnham Thorpe
Frances wife 46 Burnham Overy
Edward son 18 ag lab
Thomas son 9
Septagesima daughter 6
children b Burnham Overy
RG9 1248 110 24
1871
Burnham Overy
Decimus Holmes head M 61 Pauper Burnham Thorpe
Frances wife 51 Burnham Overy
Edward Oxwith Holmes Grandson 4 Burnham Overy
RG10 1856 91 5
1891
Wells Rd Overy
Charles Wright head M 37 General dealer
Septagesima wife 36 Burnham Overy
Frances Holmes mother in law widow 71 Burnham Overy
Mabel Money neice 14
RG12 1561 84 21
Suz
all of this Holmes information is NOT connected to the Coppick family
Suz
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Thanks Suz,
Its strange tat Sarah has Moore Coppock as her father on wedding cert in June 1890 ay Halifax. Sarah s address was 39,Crossley terrace,Halifax.maybe he moved to Halifax.
Graham.
Where did you have the marriage cert from?
I have knowledge of a marriage cert ordered from a register office and the Groom and his father had both been given the occupation of "hangman" -they were Dairymen!! When challenged the office staated "sometimes we have difficulty reading the register and have to guess!
If the marriage took place in a church/chapel it may be worth putting out a post to see if anyone has access to the image of the Parish Register - remember to post a link to this topic !
Suz
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Thanks Suz,
Its strange tat Sarah has Moore Coppock as her father on wedding cert in June 1890 ay Halifax. Sarah s address was 39,Crossley terrace,Halifax.maybe he moved to Halifax.
Graham.
Where did you have the marriage cert from?
I have knowledge of a marriage cert ordered from a register office and the Groom and his father had both been given the occupation of "hangman" -they were Dairymen!! When challenged the office staated "sometimes we have difficulty reading the register and have to guess!
If the marriage took place in a church/chapel it may be worth putting out a post to see if anyone has access to the image of the Parish Register - remember to post a link to this topic !
Suz
If Sarah's baptism or birth reg could be found (I haven't checked) then that would give father's name
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Hi Suz,
Thanks for the updates,I should really get Sarahs birth certificate.
I had the marriage cert, from the GRO 15 Jan 2010,it was hand written.
Marriage at St Marys Church,Halifax. June 25th 1890.
Fathers: Thomas Gaukroger Howell a Carriage Proprieter.
Moses Coppock a Moulder.
Regards Graham.
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so father was Moses
possibly this is birth reg
Sarah Jane Coppick
Mar qtr 1869
Pontefract reg district (covers Knottingley)
9c 81
Here are all of the names on Moses/Susan marriage
Marriage reg freeBMD
Sept qtr 1866
Stockton
on same page
Susan Carman
Moses Coppick
Susan Holmes
David Stimson
10a 120
still beating myself up for following the wrong Susan!!!!
Suz
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Thanks again Suz,
Thats good,we can forget about Moore now. I have a few certificates with wrong information on. M-in Law Clara (Howell) has many deliberate mistakes on her Birth,Marriage (x2) and Death certificates,such as marriage 1919 & 1934 father deceased, (his death cert. is correct d 1947)
Graham.
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As Moses was in Middlesborough in 1877 (newspaper report) then I wonder if this is Susan's death reg??
Susannah Coppick
age 36
Mar qtr 1879
Middlesborough
9D 418
still can't find Moses after this??
Suz
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Suz,
I think i might try that death cert. it seems to match,dates etc.
Graham.
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Please come back and let us know any further certificate information -or any other queries
Suz
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Thanks Suz,for all of your help. It might be in 2-3 weeks but i will let you know the details.
regards Graham.
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I have been on a site katewilsonceramics.com/page002.hotml She has pottery information on Cider Mugs at Gaymers. large burgundy mug by Moses Coppick (potter) 1877/ Could it be him.
Graham.
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how exciting - it could well be him
Suz
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I realize this thread is 2 years old now, but I was wondering whether Graham was able to confirm Sarah Jane Coppock to be one and the same person as Sarah Jane Coppick, daughter of Moses Coppick. Moses is my 3rd great uncle. His nephew Moses, son of John Coppick (Moses the elder's brother), is my great grandfather. Moses the elder is a bit of a mystery when it comes to researching his branch of the family as you know, and knowing with certainty Sarah Jane is indeed his daughter would help to fill in pieces of my family tree puzzle. I do believe she is, but a confirmation would be lovely.
I was also wondering, Graham, whether you could provide me with contact information for Kate Wilson Ceramics, as I am also interested in knowing more information regarding the cider mug. Her web page and email address aren't working, and her Facebook page hasn't been updated in two years. If not, would you be able to provide me with any new information you may have on the mug?
You may send me a private message if you prefer.
Thank you.
Maggie