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Title: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: melsimba66 on Sunday 22 March 15 22:52 GMT (UK)
I have found a tombstone of John Bannerman  D 1823 and his wife Elizabeth Robb  D 1825 with their son James D 1825  but I can not find any record of their death , The Grave yard is in Rathen stone # 40 , If Scotlands People can't find it where else could I look ?

                                                                                              thank you  Melanie
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 22 March 15 23:06 GMT (UK)
Unsure if there is more information elsewhere, but as I read it, according to the following, there are no deaths on SP for the time period you are looking at:
http://www.abdnet.co.uk/genuki/BAN/Rathven/

Others should be able to help you further.
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: melsimba66 on Sunday 22 March 15 23:29 GMT (UK)
Hello Ruskie,  Thank you for searching ,,,,,But I am refering to Rathen , close to Fraserburgh , and Strichen  areas .....                     
                                                                              Melanie
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 22 March 15 23:30 GMT (UK)
Hello Ruskie,  Thank you for searching ,,,,,But I am refering to Rathen , close to Fraserburgh , and Strichen  areas .....                     
                                                                              Melanie

ops, sorry 'bout that. That'll teach me for not reading carefully enough.  :-[
 ;D
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: Ruskie on Sunday 22 March 15 23:34 GMT (UK)
At that time you will probably just find burial information I would think. Are you specifically looking for cause of death or date of death? Does the MI give exact dates of death/burial?

Added: I see there is an exact date for all three burials.

Have you checked various spellings of the surname/s?
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: melsimba66 on Sunday 22 March 15 23:49 GMT (UK)
Hello ,   
  I  will try the various name spellings in the records , I thought I could find a cause  for all three deaths being so close together , and the grave yard search does not specify if that was an exact death date or burial date  . If I add them to my tree could I use these dates ?

                                                                            Melanie
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: Ruskie on Monday 23 March 15 00:02 GMT (UK)
I would assume the dates would be dates of death. I do not know what would be included on OPRs regarding causes of death at that time.

Perhaps it would be worth you contacting the Aberdeen and NE Scotland History Society who may be able to help you. :-\

Others may have better/other thoughts.
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: andycand on Monday 23 March 15 01:14 GMT (UK)
Hi

This link has information about deaths and burials prior to 1855

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&1353 (http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/content/help/index.aspx?r=554&1353)

And this link has information about OPR coverage

http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/old-parish-registers/list-of-old-parish-registers (http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/old-parish-registers/list-of-old-parish-registers)

Andy
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: GR2 on Monday 23 March 15 06:07 GMT (UK)
The following is a transcription:

Erected to the memory of John Bannerman late farmer in Hatton d. 17 Aug. 1823 aged 89; his spouse Elizabeth Robb d. 27 May 1825 aged 51. Their son James d. 21 July 1825 aged 18.
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: melsimba66 on Monday 23 March 15 06:54 GMT (UK)
Hello   
  Thank you so much , Those dates are so far off from where I have been looking for birth records too !!   
   I have been going over the National Archives of Scotland site  , a lot of new pages to look at .  Thank you again
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: Guy Etchells on Monday 23 March 15 07:24 GMT (UK)
The following is a transcription:

Erected to the memory of John Bannerman late farmer in Hatton d. 17 Aug. 1823 aged 89; his spouse Elizabeth Robb d. 27 May 1825 aged 51. Their son James d. 21 July 1825 aged 18.

Note be very careful with inscriptions such as this.
Tombstones that state "Erected to the memory" do not always mean that the person (persons) mentioned are actually buried in the grave.
Such tombstones are often set above the grave of one or more of those mentioned but others may be mentioned simply to commemorate them.

Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: Names on Tombstones but no Record ?
Post by: melsimba66 on Tuesday 24 March 15 20:12 GMT (UK)
Hello, 
That is very true, I have read that .    I just was given a link from another Genealogist and it said Rathen was very cheap to bury relatives in those days and people would bring the dead from other parishes .
   On another note with john Bannermans birth  being much earlier , It makes me wonder if there were previous wives and children about ???           

                                                                               Take care  Melanie