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Title: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: KarenM on Friday 20 March 15 20:56 GMT (UK)
Very exciting news!

In collaboration with the British Home Child Group International (BHCGI) a database of over 20,000 British Home Children (BHC) compiled by Norah Dennis will be added to the Database for Special Interest Groups - DBSIG.

A few hundred records will be added this weekend, so the BHC admins can test the data and layouts, before the rest of the records. Until the database is fully loaded, the add and edit buttons will be disabled.

Please see Berlin-Bob's thread for more information.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=716206.0

And a link to the Database for Special Interest Groups

http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/dbsig/index.php

Karen

Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Sandranne on Saturday 21 March 15 11:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Karen
What wonderful news! Can hardly wait until it is up and running!
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Friday 10 April 15 16:22 BST (UK)
The British Home Children database is "open for business" :)

You can find it by clicking on the link at the bottom of any RootsChat page:
 » Reference Library (http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/)  and then clicking on
 » Database for Special Interest Groups DBSIG (http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/dbsig/index.php) and selecting British Home Children

There is a Help page too,
direct link: http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/dbsig/dbsig-help.php?dbsig_num=1&show=gi#gi
(some of the images need renewing, but the basic details are all there)

Over 21000 records have been added from the original database, so before adding your data, please search it carefully, to see if your records are already there.

If you find any records of your ancestors (or research interests), you can add yourself to the list of researchers for this person, add comments to the record, and contact the submitter per PM.

If there is no submitter (e.g. original database) then please post here, on this topic,
or contact the Data Coordinators.

The Data Coordinators for the "DBSIG British Home Children" :

KarenM (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=16715) and  mollipops1 (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=241138) 

For technical questions, problems and suggestions for improvements, please post on the topic:
DBSIG: British Home Children.  (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=716206.0)

Enjoy,
Bob
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: 14Germain on Friday 17 April 15 02:46 BST (UK)
I am interested in updating my grandparents' information.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Tynti on Friday 17 April 15 19:04 BST (UK)
Hi Karen,

I have just claimed and updated the family information on my Gr. Grandmother's entry - ID # 14127 Harper, Sarah Jane

I have also claimed her 2 sister's:
ID # 14159 Harper, Rose
ID # 9724 Harper, Elizabeth Ann
I will update their family information as well shortly.

Thank you to all for setting this Database up.

Regards,
Ty.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: KarenM on Friday 17 April 15 23:14 BST (UK)
Hi 14 Germain,

Welcome to Rootschat!  Once you have made another post, you will be able to send me PM with the information that you would like change. 

Karen
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: KarenM on Friday 17 April 15 23:15 BST (UK)
Hi Karen,

I have just claimed and updated the family information on my Gr. Grandmother's entry - ID # 14127 Harper, Sarah Jane

I have also claimed her 2 sister's:
ID # 14159 Harper, Rose
ID # 9724 Harper, Elizabeth Ann
I will update their family information as well shortly.

Thank you to all for setting this Database up.

Regards,
Ty.

Welcome to Rootschat Ty!  That's wonderful that you were able to claim your great grandmother and her sisters.

Karen
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: 14Germain on Saturday 18 April 15 02:40 BST (UK)
I would like to add information to the original submissions that I made many years ago about my grandparents and great-uncle. Their names are Harriet Hazell, Ernest Raymond Allnutt and Francis Benjamin Allnutt.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: KarenM on Saturday 18 April 15 02:44 BST (UK)
Ok great! You should be able to send me a pm with the info you would like to add/edit

Karen
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Friday 15 May 15 09:09 BST (UK)
For those of you with "British Home Children" interests in Australia as well, 
keep an eye on this topic, too ....

Topic: A RootsChat Database for British Home Children in Australia
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=720118

Bob
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Cindy Robinson on Sunday 24 May 15 06:53 BST (UK)
Hi there,

I see my great grandfather "Samuel Victor Robinson" is in the BHC data base and would like to add some info to his page.  How do I go about doing this.  Thanks.

Cindy
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Tuesday 26 May 15 12:22 BST (UK)
Hello Cindy,

                As Samuel Victor's entry came from the "Original Database" it has been decided that KarenM and alanmack, the Data Co-ordinators will substitute for the originators of the record, so we will do any editing. If you wish to add to or correct the entry please put the new information in the Reader's Comments box and save the record and we will process it accordingly.

It would help too if you made a couple more posts so that your count reaches the required three to use the Personal Message system for contact with other 'Chatters via the database.

alanmack
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Cindy Robinson on Tuesday 26 May 15 23:39 BST (UK)
Hi Alan,

Thanks for the reply.  I'm trying to find my way around the chat boards.  Lots of great info being posted.

I will definitely post in the "readers comments" so the additional info about my g-grandfather can be updated.   Will get 3 posts in quickly so I can use the private messages as well.   
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Wednesday 27 May 15 00:07 BST (UK)
Hi Cindy,
             That's the ticket!  :D Yes, get the three posts in so you can use the PM system. If your new information is too much for the box (>500 chars) then PM me with the text instead and I'll do the necessary that way.

Alan
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Sandranne on Sunday 07 June 15 01:37 BST (UK)
What a marvellous database. Just found someone I was looking for!
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Susan Brazeau on Sunday 07 June 15 01:39 BST (UK)
Just want to thank Sandra Joyce for spending the last 45 minutes or so with me, assisting me to navigate this site.  :-)  Susan
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Susan Brazeau on Sunday 07 June 15 01:40 BST (UK)
Looking forward to learning more and, perhaps being able to contribute.  Thanks for getting this up and running, Karen M.  Susan
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: KarenM on Sunday 07 June 15 01:51 BST (UK)
Wonderful Susan! 

Thanks!

Karen
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: richardgreen1908 on Tuesday 16 June 15 22:06 BST (UK)
Karen

my Great Uncle Ernest Green is not included in your database. He is recorded in passenger lists, the LAC database, Ups & Downs Magazine and the 1901 census. What should I do to get him added?

regards

Richard Green
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Saturday 20 June 15 00:16 BST (UK)
Hi Richard,
           And a warm welcome to RootsChat. Sorry about the delay. Karen seems to be unavailable at the moment so perhaps I'd better step in as the other Data Co-ordinator fot the BHC database.

I concur - your G. Uncle Ernest Green is absent from our database and thank you for checking.

To add his name just log in to RootsChat, go to the BHC data home page,

http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/dbsig/index.php?dbsig_name=British+Home+Children
 (http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/dbsig/index.php?dbsig_name=British+Home+Children)
. . . and choose Add Record. Fill in as much detail in the various fields as you know feel happy to include, add your name as researcher too (bottom right) and then "Save Record". As the originator you have the right to edit the record, so if you want to add more details or change anything later you alone can.

One other thing that you might do is to make a couple more posts (reply to this one twice more perhaps) to get your score up to three. Then the Personal Message (PM) system becomes available to you to send/receive contacts from other members.

alanmack
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: richardgreen1908 on Saturday 20 June 15 16:58 BST (UK)
Thanks Alan. I'll see if I can input the record. I tried once on my iPad but it would not open so perhaps it will work on the PC.

regards

Richard
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: richardgreen1908 on Saturday 20 June 15 17:02 BST (UK)
And here's my extra message so that I can use the PMs!
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: jlnorthrup on Sunday 21 June 15 16:05 BST (UK)
Hello! I'm so glad to see the database again! I found a couple of errors in information for two of my BHC girls and requested to edit (have to get to three postings to message?). I also contributed some of the information on my Great-Grandmother, Emily Chaplin, in the original database, and wondered if I can be added to that? Or should I just be listed as a researcher? The work that you all have done on this is amazing. Thank you!
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Sunday 21 June 15 18:30 BST (UK)
Hi and welcome to RootsChat,

I made the changes from the Reader's Comment you posted earlier today and was about to PM you when I noticed your score was less than three, so I'm pleased to see you have raised the number so I can be sure you can read the PM which I shall now write.  :D

alanmack
                             
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Rainbow Quartz on Sunday 21 June 15 19:24 BST (UK)
Only just found this thread! (mind you, I've been on hols for the past two weeks, but obviously missed the earlier posts). I looked to see if my uncle, John Oliver North, was in the database, but couldn't find him, so I've added a new record. He was the middle son of seven children, and apparently my grandfather just decided to send him away to Canada as a 'Home Child'. My cousin says that my grandfather was supposed to give him 10 shillings (10 'bob' to us!), but at the last minute changed his mind and sent my poor uncle, aged 14, off on his own. When he arrived in Quebec, in 1928, he had nowhere to go and no money, and ended up as a vagrant. However, he did do well for himself, got a good job, got married and had two daughters, and lived into his eighties, and I did meet him twice when he came back to England to visit family. I was very young at the time though and can't remember much about him, and of course didn't ask all those important questions ???
Thanks to all for setting up the database, a great addition to the categories of information about our families. 8)
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: dmoore03 on Wednesday 24 June 15 19:22 BST (UK)
I would like to update my fathers info on the BHC database can that be done?
Father: Thomas Moore

David Moore (son)
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Wednesday 24 June 15 22:21 BST (UK)
Hi David,
             Welcome to RootsChat and to the BHC database. The process of getting changes made is fairly easy, but as the record you refer to is part of the "Original Database" any editing will be done by us, the Data Co-ordinators (KarenM and alanmack), for the time being at least. All you have to do is put the changes in a Reader's Comment and Save the record. We will then action it accordingly.

However, there seem to be matters needing discussion about that record, so you need to get your RootsChat post score up to three before the Personal message (PM) system becomes available to us. Please answer this thread twice more and I will PM you before we go further.

alanmack
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: dmoore03 on Thursday 25 June 15 20:03 BST (UK)
I would be interested to know what may be a problem with my fathers entry
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: dmoore03 on Thursday 25 June 15 20:05 BST (UK)
Please contact me at my email address, thanks
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Thursday 25 June 15 20:36 BST (UK)
Thanks David,
                    I will send you a PM re the problems.

alanmack
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: madbusch on Thursday 02 July 15 03:07 BST (UK)
I'm new to RootsChat.  I have found an entry for my grandmother Margaret Mary Beasley (listed as Mary Beasley) and her sister Lilian Beasley.  I would like to edit/update their info, but not sure how.  Also a 3rd sister is not listed, May Beasley.  They are BHC sent to Canada.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Thursday 02 July 15 19:35 BST (UK)
I'm new to RootsChat.  I have found an entry for my grandmother Margaret Mary Beasley (listed as Mary Beasley) and her sister Lilian Beasley.  I would like to edit/update their info, but not sure how.  Also a 3rd sister is not listed, May Beasley.  They are BHC sent to Canada.

Hi madbusch,
            . . .  and welcome to RootsChat and the BHC database. So pleased you found your grandmother and great aunt.

As their entries come from the "Original Database" the way to get changes made is to add a Reader's Comment in the appropriate box on each of the records. KarenM or myself, the data co-ordinators, are acting as the originators here and we will make the changes for you.

Should your changes be extensive (>500 characters) then it would be better to PM (personal message) either of us with the data and we will take it from there. This is one reason why the PM system is vital to the database but you need to get your post score up to three for it to be available to you. So answer this a couple of times and you will have made it.

Regarding the aunt missing from the database, this is a somewhat different process and I will cover that in a later post here.

alanmack
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: RoyLeigh on Friday 03 July 15 17:20 BST (UK)
This isn't easy trying to figure out where to post.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: RoyLeigh on Friday 03 July 15 17:20 BST (UK)
And if I have found the correct place to get my 2 posts seen and or activated.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: RoyLeigh on Friday 03 July 15 17:22 BST (UK)
Was going to add to one of the BHC that I have been tracking. And offer to add even more but don't know if I am doing this correctly and if it will ever be found on this site.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: RoyLeigh on Friday 03 July 15 17:23 BST (UK)
I also have over 1200 children that went through my city through two orphanages was going to see if any are listed on this site.
But again I am suppose to post three times, but not sure if I am in the correct spot to post. Oh well.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: RoyLeigh on Friday 03 July 15 17:24 BST (UK)
Will sign out now, have other things to do besides trying to figure this site out.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Friday 03 July 15 17:52 BST (UK)
Well done RoyLeigh,
                            That'll do nicely. I'll process your comment in a few minutes and PM you when I've done.

alanmack
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: madbusch on Friday 03 July 15 20:38 BST (UK)
I agree with Roy, doing 2 post seems pointless.   Post 1
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Friday 03 July 15 20:44 BST (UK)
OK madbusch, you can stop there! :o I've been misinformed all these years.  ???  You only need two, the Management tells me (today). The reason is one of security, to stop spambots posting.

alanmack
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: RoyLeigh on Friday 03 July 15 21:25 BST (UK)
Alanmack, I do have more information on this plus more exact dates etc. As I am contact with the daughter of her brother plus the family of their daughter.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Friday 03 July 15 22:07 BST (UK)
Hi RoyLeigh,
                 If it is a great deal, i.e. greater than 500 characters, then a PM to me or KarenM is the better option. Bear in mind that the limit for the Notes is 25000 characters so War and Peace is, I'm afraid, out.  ;D. From a personal perspective consider carefully what you include as families can prove surprisingly sensitive.  ::)

Ooh! And remember not to include the names of living peopleplease in line with RootsChat policy.

Bring it on!!

alanmack
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: patty_in_ms on Wednesday 26 August 15 21:18 BST (UK)
My grandmother and her sister were sent to Canada in 1914; their brother in 1909.  I've just added to the info on Victoria and Lily Woodgate and Bertie Abbott.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: alanmack on Thursday 27 August 15 00:31 BST (UK)
Hi Patty,

            Welcome to RootsChat. Thank you for inputting some more records. Spookily, I was just transcribing Bertie Abbott among all those who travelled on the Corsican in 1909 (including my Great Uncle). So you've saved me some work.  ;D

Added: Make one more post please Patty then I can talk to you by PM and you can converse with sharonmx5 to sort out the disagreement of dates !  ;) Then I'll be able to update the records with what you added in the Readers Comments boxes.

alanmack
(data co-ordinator for the BHC database)
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: mogwood on Friday 04 September 15 23:42 BST (UK)
Just to say a big thank you for setting up this database. 

I am fairly new to RootsChat and up to now have been browsing around getting a feel for how things work.  On the off-chance tonight I had a look at the British Home Children database to see if my rellie was listed - and she is!  :)  I had previously found her in the orphanage, and believed that she went to Canada, but up to now have not been able to find any record of her travel, so that I could make that link - (though have been in contact with her family in Canada).  This isn't absolute - but it helps a lot in adding to the evidence.  I'm well chuffed  ;D

Is there any way I can find out where she went on arrival in Canada in August 1901?  and which family she was placed with?, and whether she was placed alone or with others? 

Any pointers gratefully received

Mogwood
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 05 September 15 11:10 BST (UK)
Welcome To RootsChat

Can you give us a few details to start the search - name, year of birth, parents and anything else you know.

Sandra
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: mogwood on Saturday 05 September 15 23:55 BST (UK)
Hello Sandra, and thanks for your welcome, & offer of help.

The name in the database is Jane Godan, aka Godsan, Godson, and she arrived in Canada on 2 August 1901 on the 'Parisian'.  She was sent by the Barnardos agency. 

What I know:
I had previously found a Jane Godsan (sic) in the Dr Barnardos Home at Barkinside & Ilford,
Essex, England - 1901 census, RG13 piece 1652, folio 91, page 22.  I believe that she is part of my extended family (sister of my direct line), as I have been unable to find anything about her anywhere else - birth & baptism, but no residence, death or burial, marriage, or anything in England. 

I also found a reference to Jennie Godson on an Ancestry tree, and contacted the tree owner, who is related to Jane/Jennie.  Jennie (as she was known in Canada) ended up in Ontario, where she married and lived for the rest of her life.  The tree owner and I had some contact a few years back, but neither of us could fill in the missing bits about when she left England/ arrived in Canada, and where she lived before marriage.   Nevertheless, I'm convinced this is 'my' Jennie.

Jane was born March quarter 1890 in Aston, Warwickshire (one of the registration districts of  Birmingham) to parents William and Matilda Godson.  Her mother died in 1898, leaving William with 5 young children - 4 boys & Jennie.  I can only assume that her father felt unable to cope with an 8-year old girl and decided to send her to the orphanage.  There were other wider family members with whom she might have lodged, but no info on why she didn't go to one of them.   Whatever the reason, Jennie ended up in the orphanage.  I have only assumed that she went there after her mother died - have not found any date of admission or other info.

Jennie married Alexander Thomson in Toronto in 1909 and raised her family there.  I believe she died around 1954, also in Toronto. 

If you can help me to fill in the missing bits, mainly between 1901-1909, I would be most grateful,

Mogwood


P.S.  any leads on how I might find out when & why she entered the orphanage would also be much appreciated.



Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Sandidolsen42 on Monday 08 February 16 02:41 GMT (UK)
I am new here, so bear with me .  I have been reading a post from Richard about his great uncle Ernest Green....Ernest Green is my Great great Uncle he married my Great grandmother's sister Verna Hornick ..they lived in Dresden in a little log cabin..I do have a few pictures...I would be interested in seeing if you have any new information on Uncle Ernie. He sounds like he has an amazing story
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: hart_em on Wednesday 20 April 16 02:20 BST (UK)
Hello, my name is Elizabeth and my BHC is Stanley George HART. Stanley was my husband's great-grandfather and was sent to Canada from England onboard the Sardinian in 1894 when he was 12 years old.

The family knows very little about Stanley's life before coming to Canada. He did have a younger brother, Charles (8 years old) who emigrated with him in 1894 but they were separated once the arrived in Canada and never saw one another again (so I understand).
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Dave Waltham on Tuesday 26 July 16 02:59 BST (UK)
Thank you for posting this info.  I just learned a fair bit about my grandfather.  I knew the names of his parents, but not what part of England they were from.  Having come from a Banardo home, he had little recollection of his family, and only a couple of photos with their names written on the back.  I have already started submitting details of his life!!!
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Jazgran on Saturday 24 December 16 09:59 GMT (UK)
Hi  I am trying to trace John Hand, born 1906 Liverpool and sent to Canada via Dr Barnardos in 1920.  I found him on passenger list of "Scotian" ship and his onward address was Mr Hobday, Toronto, the "reception centre".  His family are keen to know what happened to him after his 1920 arrival.
Many thanks,
Jazgran
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: lemur41 on Friday 30 December 16 13:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Karen M and anyone else reading this

I just received an e mail from Perry Snow to say that he is returning to helping with the work for the BHC database.
 For anyone who doesn't know or hasn't read Perry's details in the past, his father was a Home Child, and the Register was the work of Perry Snow for many years.

Lemur 41
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: enchiemeisie on Saturday 21 January 17 12:14 GMT (UK)
My great-grandfather is not on the database.  I keep trying to add him, but every time I press the 'add' button it says this:

'One function of this database is to help RootsChat members to find (possible) common ancestors.
To contact other members, or for other members to be able to contact you,
you must be able to use the RootsChat Private Message (PM) system

Therefore you must be able to use the Private Message (PM) system before you can use this function.


The PM system will be available to you as soon as you have made 2 postings in the RootsChat forum.'


Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 21 January 17 12:19 GMT (UK)
Did you send Berlin Bob a message yesterday as suggested in another thread  - reply 6 ?


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=763401.0


Quote :- If you still have a problem try sending Berlin Bob - Caretaker -  a pm to see if he can help you.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=655

Sandra
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: enchiemeisie on Saturday 21 January 17 12:27 GMT (UK)
Did you send Berlin Bob a message yesterday as suggested in another thread  - reply 6 ?


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=763401.0


Quote :- If you still have a problem try sending Berlin Bob - Caretaker -  a pm to see if he can help you.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=655

Sandra

Thanks for your reply.  Yes, I did, Sandra.  He replied and said he had added me and to log out and back in again.  I have done all of those things multiple times and it still does the same thing.  I have sent another message to Bob.  Thought I would ask again in case I am doing something wrong.

Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: enchiemeisie on Saturday 21 January 17 14:59 GMT (UK)
Hooray!!! ;D

Finally, I managed to add.  Thank you Sandra and Bob. ;)
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 21 January 17 15:33 GMT (UK)
That's great  ;)

Sandra

Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: annabananaphone on Wednesday 31 May 17 15:16 BST (UK)
Great to have this database.  To make additions or to add a new record, do I send you the information, or can I make the additions once I've added two postings to this forum?  Thanks,
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Thursday 01 June 17 07:24 BST (UK)
Hi Anna,

Welcome to RootsChat :)

Make another posting and you can then add your records directly.

regards,
Bob
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: annabananaphone on Thursday 01 June 17 13:48 BST (UK)
Ok, thanks for the quick reply, Bob.  Ann
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: annabananaphone on Thursday 01 June 17 14:18 BST (UK)
I am new to this forum, but have been researching my British Home Child relatives and the BHC's who lived in the homes of some of my ancestors/relatives.  I have a brick wall with one young lady, who was taken into my ggg uncle's home.  She appears as a 7 year old, in the 1911 Canadian census living with John and Minnie Wright as their adopted daughter, born in England (1904). Her name is shown as Hilda Wright.  She is still with them in the 1921 Canadian census, showing as their adopted daughter, aged 17, named as Amy Pegg, but all the other details match up.  When I did a search of birth registrations for "Amy Pegg" in England in 1904, I found a Hilda Amy Pegg, whose birth was registered in first quarter of 1904 at Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England. I am not completely sure these all line up, but I think I'm on the right track.  I'm also not completely sure she's a BHC, but I was alerted to the possibility when I saw a 7 year old girl, born in England, living with my relatives in Saskatchewan.  Does anyone know anything of this girl?
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 06 June 17 21:26 BST (UK)
Hello and a very warm welcome to RootsChat  :).

If you look very closely at that 1911 census record with Hilda at the Wrights, you can her date of birth is given as Dec 1904. This would suggest a possible registration in the Jan-Feb-Mar qtr of 1905. The GRO website now has mother's maiden names (mmn) from 1837 onwards in their index and there is an interesting entry for this qtr.....

Hilda Pegg mmn Wright
Mar qtr 1905 Mansfield 7B 87

Doesn't mean this is your Hilda but certainly suggests the possibility of a connection related to the Wrights of Saskatchewan. You would need to order the cert to see who the parents are and then see if the Wright mother fits into your family tree. I don't see a Pegg-Wright marriage at the moment. There is always the possibility the parents didn't actually marry, or the mother could have been widowed and married under a different name.

If little Hilda WAS related to the Wrights, I don't think she would have come to Canada as a BHC. That being said, I can't find her on a passenger list at the moment

Continuing......

PB
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: annabananaphone on Tuesday 06 June 17 21:53 BST (UK)
Hello and thanks for the welcome! I really appreciate your help regarding Hilda, but I don't think the GRO entry relates to her.  My Wright relatives didn't live in England at any point, but were in Ontario until 1905. They had 4 children of their own, two of whom died in infancy. My understanding is that they headed west in 1905, with their remaining teenage children (14 and 19 years old) to homestead. I thought Hilda might be a BHC, because she was really a bit young to be their child, and was noted as having come to Canada between the age of 3 and 7, but not with the Wrights, as they were living in Saskatchewan at that time.  It's a real brick wall, but I will persevere! Thanks so much for your suggestions though. They really are appreciated!
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 06 June 17 22:09 BST (UK)
Edited to add: had this typed when your post came through so decided to post it anyway.

Two marriages took place in Ontario in 1921 and 1923 that may be of interest. The residence for both brides at the time of marriage is given as Moose Jaw.

One appears to be for the daughter of John and Minnie Wright, linked here.....

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89ST-YQ2?i=241&cc=1784216

The other is for a Helen Hilda (WRIGHT) Pegg born 1904, and linked here.....

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G1PZ-71Q?i=949&cc=1784216

Problem is her birthplace is given as Moose Jaw so this may or may not be your Hilda. Her intended may have thought that was where she was born when he applied for the marriage licence. To complicate matters, there is another Hilda Pegg born in and living in Saskatchewan in at least the 1911 census. However, she was born in 1907 and her parents are Frank and Annie, which differs from the parents in the record above. So probably a different Hilda. If the Hilda in the marriage record is "your" Hilda, she certainly seems to use a few different names.

Anyway, I have put this second marriage up as food for thought.

PB
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: annabananaphone on Tuesday 06 June 17 22:28 BST (UK)
Thank you so much!  I was thinking the same, that her husband to be either thought that was her birth place, or as she was adopted at such a young age, perhaps she thought it was her birth place also.  From census records, it appears she went by "Hilda Wright" in the 1911 and 1916 census, then by 1921, was listed as Amy Pegg.  I wonder if she was told at some point between 1916 and 1921 that she was adopted, so decided to use her birth name?  She's a mystery -- there are several intriguing clues, such as listing her name as Helen Hilda (Wright) Pegg, but she seems to keep changing her first names around (if I have the right records).  Thank you again for all your help. A.

And I meant to add that the other marriage, showing John Wright and Minnie Hall as parents, is the marriage of their own daughter, Ethel May Susannah, who was born in 1886.  Thanks, A
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 06 June 17 22:52 BST (UK)
Helen Hilda at least has Pegg parents listed that you can explore. It would be great if she turns out to be yours. On the other hand, finding out she isn't would also be a useful result.

I found it very interesting that both licences were taken out in Goderich Ontario. I wonder how the grooms and brides met each other.

PB
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: annabananaphone on Tuesday 06 June 17 23:06 BST (UK)
I wonder that too! :) Again, thanks so much for you help, A.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: BrianCarr on Sunday 30 July 17 15:29 BST (UK)
I just found your web page. Still trying to figure it out. I came across a posting in the British Home Children Group. The post was about someone looking for my husband's great grandmother Mildred Hare. It seems that Mildred is their great, great aunt. The post is from 2011 and I was wondering how do you connect with people on here?

Thanks Deb Carr
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Sunday 27 August 17 17:03 BST (UK)

On behalf of "alanmack" I have just added 118 BHC children from the ship "Samaratian", landing in Canada in 1872.

See also
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=716206.msg6316918#msg6316918

regards,
Bob
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Berlin-Bob on Tuesday 29 August 17 15:18 BST (UK)
And another 51 names, this time from the Manitoban, landing in Canada in 1881 !
Thanks to Mollipops1  :-*

Bob
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: janetm on Thursday 28 September 17 08:38 BST (UK)
For Walter Lotto on British Home Child Day
 WHY THE SUNFLOWER
(Flower that represents British Home Children)

Sunflowers are bright and inspire hope.

British Home Children came to Canada hoping for a brighter future.

As the sunflower grows until it is mature it will face the sun. In the morning it will face east and follow the sun throughout the day to be facing west at sundown.

British Home Children got off their ships in the east and most travelled west into all parts of Canada.

Sunflowers are very strong and can endure various environments

British Home Children had to be strong mentally, physically and emotionally and endured various living situations.

Sunflower seeds are encased in shells.

British Home Children on the most part kept their stories of their lives to themselves, encasing them within their hearts, minds & souls.

Sunflower seeds can be cracked open to reveal itself for others to share and appreciate.

British Home Children stories need to be cracked open, shared and appreciated.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: DFKBurr on Wednesday 11 October 17 18:47 BST (UK)
Thank you for setting up this very valuable resource for those researching British Home Children. I am already finding it very helpful.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: mcintaylor on Wednesday 28 February 18 01:17 GMT (UK)
I would like to update and add to the information on BHC Jane Connel born 5 February 1879 at Arthur Gate, Dundee, Angus Scotland and who came to Canada by way of the Quarriers 29 May 1891
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: mcintaylor on Wednesday 28 February 18 01:18 GMT (UK)
I would like to add information on BHC Edith Ena Hearsay born near London, England 1 November 1886
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: amme524 on Monday 30 April 18 13:04 BST (UK)
Hi,

I have claimed my Great Great Grandmother Alice Norton (b:1875).  I have ordered her info from England and will update her record when I get it.

~Lisa
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: amme524 on Monday 30 April 18 13:08 BST (UK)
Does anyone know where we can find out British workhouse information online?
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: Robynkc on Friday 28 August 20 03:09 BST (UK)
Hi there I would like to search this Database for the British Home children.  Needing help. Thank you
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 28 August 20 09:13 BST (UK)
Hi Robynkc,


You can search the database for British Home Children on this link:-

http://surname.rootschat.com/lexicon/dbsig/index.php?dbsig_num=1

Hope it helps.
Sandra
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: AlgarvePete on Tuesday 09 May 23 06:37 BST (UK)
A lot of information about British home children and other immigrants Canada 1913-1932 including date of arrival, homes, employers etc on 8 microfiche reels.
https://heritage.canadiana.ca/view/oocihm.lac_mikan_161388
Title: Hilda Amy Pegg - Not a homechild?
Post by: J.J. on Saturday 29 November 25 02:28 GMT (UK)
Read these posts from earlier on in this older thread - by Anne:
I am new to this forum, but have been researching my British Home Child relatives and the BHC's who lived in the homes of some of my ancestors/relatives.  I have a brick wall with one young lady, who was taken into my ggg uncle's home.  She appears as a 7 year old, in the 1911 Canadian census living with John and Minnie Wright as their adopted daughter, born in England (1904). Her name is shown as Hilda Wright.  She is still with them in the 1921 Canadian census, showing as their adopted daughter, aged 17, named as Amy Pegg, but all the other details match up.  When I did a search of birth registrations for "Amy Pegg" in England in 1904, I found a Hilda Amy Pegg, whose birth was registered in first quarter of 1904 at Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England. I am not completely sure these all line up, but I think I'm on the right track.  I'm also not completely sure she's a BHC, but I was alerted to the possibility when I saw a 7 year old girl, born in England, living with my relatives in Saskatchewan.  Does anyone know anything of this girl?
   PolarBear found these useful marriages in Ontario alth Hilda's memories of names is off.
She had, after all, though, only recently found out her actual parent's names
Two marriages took place in Ontario in 1921 and 1923 that may be of interest. The residence for both brides at the time of marriage is given as Moose Jaw.
One appears to be for the daughter of John and Minnie Wright, linked here.....
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89ST-YQ2?i=241&cc=1784216

The other is for a Helen Hilda (WRIGHT) Pegg born 1904, and linked here.....
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G1PZ-71Q?i=949&cc=1784216

Problem is her birthplace is given as Moose Jaw so this may or may not be your Hilda. Her intended may have thought that was where she was born when he applied for the marriage licence. To complicate matters, there is another Hilda Pegg born in and living in Saskatchewan in at least the 1911 census. However, she was born in 1907 and her parents are Frank and Annie, which differs from the parents in the record above. So probably a different Hilda. If the Hilda in the marriage record is "your" Hilda, she certainly seems to use a few different names.
Anyway, I have put this second marriage up as food for thought.
PB

Bkgd of Hilda Pegg post  adoption

Marriage  27 September 1923  says parents: Walter & Amy Pegg
married Ont - as Helen Hilda Wright Pegg to Samuel Myrrel Currie
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKM5-F2X3
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G1PZ-71Q?view=index&cc=1784216&lang=en&groupId=

This tree knows Currey but mostly  the Wright ancestors
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/landscape/PQQQ-KVF
Her husbands Currey tree has only the marriage details
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/landscape/LQBH-H1P

1911 Census-  Ernfold  Moose Jaw, Moose Jaw No. 161, Saskatchewan, Canada
Hilda Wright  age 7 b. Dec 1904  Meth  Adopted daughter
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:27XP-CPS

1916 Census- Moose Jaw No. 161, Saskatchewan, Canada
Hilda age 12  b.1904 England
John Wright   59
Minnie Wright   56
Ethel M Wright   26
William Wright   23
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6L49-1D1
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMPS-6Y4?lang=en

1921 Census- Saskatchewan / Moose Jaw (City) (51)
With John & Minnie   (roomer Thomas Vanstone b. Ont)
Amy Pegg Adopted Daughter, they say came from England in 1911?
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=census&idnumber=68464098&ecopy=e003122895

 1923 Census- July 19 -  July 21 says refunded???   Imm.New York, U.S.
Samuel Currey  Age 21   Birth 1902 Auburn Ontario
last residence Colbourn  Mechanic  father George
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-6D9Y-HW
 1923  20 Nov   Samuel Curry bookkeeper Age 21 Birth 1902 Nile Ont Race Irish   
contact: Hilda W  Immigration  Buffalo, Erie, New York, United States

Had a child in the U.S. then returned to have 2 in Ont. then head to Saskatchewan.
1931 Census- June 1  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6R3M-DZ2M
Melfort, Star City No. 428, Saskatchewan, Canada
1931 Province  Saskatchewan   District Melfort District
 Samuel Carrey   28  occ. Carpenter
 Hilda Amy Carrey   25  says  imm. 1909
 Louis Carrey   7     b. 1924    ( Louis W. Currey? b. U.S.)
 Marie Carrey   5  1926   Ontario
 George Carrey   3  b. 1928  Ontario
 Francis Carrey   1  b. 1930  Saskatchewan, Canada
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=census&idnumber=83946266&ecopy=e011728213
Title: Hilda Amy Pegg - Not a homechild?
Post by: J.J. on Saturday 29 November 25 02:31 GMT (UK)
Can find no trace of immigration but unmarried mothers were encouraged...
many were forced, to give up babies at BIRTH! Also mother could have been young.
 Some girls as young as eight could give birth by age NINE!!!
Throughout the century Clandestine Adoptions happened wordwide!!!
You can look into Salvation Army orphanage, as they brought over British children?
This Salvation army site says they'll trace their adoptions...However...
 did find some families online complain theirs had untraceable paperwork.
https://sa.ecclesiact.com/about/familytracing

or.... If they stopped for a stay in Manitoba on the way to Sask.
 Manitoba - Children’s Aid Shelter - 101 Mayfair Avenue
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV95-XRW7
  Around the corner, in the charge of Elizabeth Grace Proctor:
  Children’s Home of Winnipeg, 200 River Avenue
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV95-XRS1
 Partially illegible entries...Probably a red herring but...can't help but
*NOTE: a nurse - "Elizabeth Wright"  b. 1863 Loc. starts with O
 If you ever look in to see if she's somehow related
https://sa.ecclesiact.com/about/familytracing

adding:
Looking at that find re: Pegg, Hilda Amy mother MdnNm BROOKS
 reg. 1904 - March Qtr Newcastle Tyne but didn't find
  a marriage for a couple with a husband Walter Pegg
***Did find: marriage  Newcastle T / on page: Amy Clara Brooks & Bertie Pegg
fathers: George Joseph Brooks   Richard Walter Pegg
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGRH-JBJT?lang=en

a Bertie Pegg bricklayer,  age 25   b. 1882  from Norfolk England
 - arrived alone to Quebec Aug 17th 1906 on Empress of Britain!
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=paslisandborent&idnumber=2515277&ecopy=e003662540

1911 Bertie-bricklayer- already in B.C. Metchosin Nanaimo British Columbia (west coast! )
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=census&idnumber=6430514&ecopy=e001938086

April 1 1915 same person married Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
In home of "retired" Presby. Rev. Dr. John Campbell   1177 Fort Street – named Breadalbane
says widower / occ: mechanic ...parents Walter (occ: mechanic) & Margaret Pegg
Noting once again altho yes, could be coincidence:
***Witnesses a John Miller Wright & a James Wright?
https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/75db58c7-62f7-4ca8-8091-b0345cc55228
adding: Here they are on census
1921
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=census&idnumber=66680819&ecopy=e002872775
1931
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=census&idnumber=85994146&ecopy=e011772422

adding: also
His death has a birth date Nov 24 1881 Norfolk Eng.
was living Island Highway, View Royal, Victoria  B.C.  1962- Sept 4th   Age 80
 https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Image/Genealogy/ac4004b7-04ae-4e56-9297-ebb595a074b1

adding siblings for Bertie:
Baptisms for 10 of the 13 children...New Catton Christ Church
Father: Walter mother : Mary Anne Varvell
also a Walter Stephen Varvell & his wife Amelia on page
http://tinstaafl.co.uk/nbp/Church_Pages/catton_new2.htm
Alice is here http://tinstaafl.co.uk/nbp/Church_Pages/norwich_st_john_timberhill.html
 
Title: Hilda Amy Pegg - Not a homechild?
Post by: J.J. on Saturday 29 November 25 03:37 GMT (UK)
O.K. this is crazy, as I just found this online!!!
He signed up for ww1 & he knew Hilda was in Saskatchewan!
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pegg-722

posting CEF signup next...
  Here it is, note 3 pages with last one his military/medical file
https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=pffww&idnumber=572645&ecopy=571994a
  Wow, fabulous to see he may have been in communication with her ?
...or at least with her adoptive guardians! Hard to know for certain when.

 I read something yesterday that a reveal could be allowed...
 once the child was 18-21/considered an adult?

***ADDING The Clincher: Just looked through a bit of CEF papers
His will was to his brand new wife
but he wanted his daughter to be contacted should something happen.
(Now see that no, he hadn't married until after he signed up...)
He was discharged 1917 after 2 yrs service, due to a heart condition.
Reading further down page...History of the disability:
***He had typloid fever at Moose Jaw Sask. in 1910!!!***
Sooo-Was Hilda on ship with him in 1906 but perhaps with others on board?
( Noted he was in steerage with mostly other men...Headed to Winnipeg?)
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: J.J. on Monday 01 December 25 04:10 GMT (UK)
  Again just pure happenstance...an infant says age 0 no 1st name?
 Mother Amy, is a squiggle...& there's a son John (1 1/2  I never found?
 she's headed to her husband a Bricklayer!!!  St John NB/ crossed out
   then Bal* Man.  (? Perhaps Baldur-town in Manitoba?)
New Can. archives search won't allow the rootschat shrink - link url!!!
Feb. 1907- Empress of Ireland - Amy is down as Henry age 21 - b. Suffolk!
  Their transcription has John as 1yr. and unnamed Pegg a baby age 0
  (Age of children - certainly doesn't fit - but the baby can read & write ::) )
  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HG1-4NF

  Adding: NOTE  Saskatchewan vital stats also has, with no ages listed:
  ***an Amy Pegg who died  Nov. 21- 1909!!!
You can order the information...instructions are above the results!
There was another Amy Pegg, though...so no guarantees it is this one.
  Hmmmm... now do we have a young John to find as well?
  complicated, now that we have more info, but with distorted facts

Note: I may be grasping at straws here, but getting the death cert
  info, altho expensive, might be a good idea to confirm or deny

adding brothers Ernest Horace Pegg & perhaps Walter William Pegg
ship Southwark-arrival: Apr 1904  Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
E H Pegg  Age 23   b. England ?.W. age 26 both are bricklayers
headed to Winnipeg (so likely where Bertie & Amy et al were headed)
familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2QS7-B7F
adding: Ernest with older brother Albert 1905 heading to New York U.S.
in transit, heading back to U.K. (George Conly may be friend or rellie)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK3Y-W8R9
Brother William (Levi) came out in 1907 (bricklayer to Winnipeg)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-61W3-9S8
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: polarbear on Monday 01 December 25 15:17 GMT (UK)
Amy Clara Pegg…Findagrave…

Should be Bertie’s wife. Died 1909.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u43/

PB

Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: annabananaphone on Monday 01 December 25 16:45 GMT (UK)
J.J. - that is amazing! Thank you so much. I love it when brick walls start to come down, and pieces all start to fit in. Thank you again, Annabanana
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 02 December 25 01:50 GMT (UK)
About the baby on the boat…

Here is some info I believe pertains to him.

Probable birth…
Bertie Walter Pegg
MMN Brooks
M qtr 1907 Ipswich RD (Suffolk)

We have him coming to Canada with his mother Amy in Feb 1907.

We have his mother Amy apparently passing away in Saskatchewan in 1909 as noted just above (lndex, Findagrave) and father moves to British Columbia where he eventually remarries. Hilda was apparently left with the Wrights and Bertie seems to have a new home also.

This looks like young Bertie in the 1911 Canada Census lodging with an Alfred and Margaret Allen in Moose Jaw Saskatchewan….named as Walter….last name on the page.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?id=e002099749&app=census1911&op=img

1916 Prairie Census has him still in Moose Jaw….now called Walter Allen and noted as son.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?id=31228_4363960-00664&app=census1916&op=img

1921 Census has him in Edmonton Alberta now. Alfred seems to have a new wife. Walter now shown  as his adopted son. It is interesting to note Walter is said to be born at sea.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?id=e002865422&app=census1921&op=img

Continuing next frame….
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: polarbear on Tuesday 02 December 25 02:26 GMT (UK)
Continuing from previous frame….

It looks like Walter married in 1924 in Alberta but I have only been able to find his bride Carla Helen Caswell in the index, not Walter himself.

1926 Prairie Census. Still in Alberta.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?id=e011260443&app=census1926&op=img

1931 Census. Walter, Clara, 2 children. Walter says he was born at sea again.

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?id=e011752282&app=census1931&op=img

Walter apparently died in British Columbia in 2001…Findagrave entry. Father Bert Pegg is mentioned. This info is apparently taken from his death record. Death record gives his birthdate as 01 Jan 1907, birthplace England. Father Bert Pegg.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u45/

Death of Carla in British Columbia….Findagrave entry.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01u46/

Death records can be found here. Use Walter Bert Allen, Clara Helen Allen.

https://search-collections.royalbcmuseum.bc.ca/Genealogy

We know from the senior Bertie’s CEF record that he apparently knew where his daughter Hilda was. It appears he also must have had contact with his son. Walter Bert Allen crossed the border from Alberta to Idaho USA in 1937 or 8. He was still living in Edmonton Alberta at the time. Wife Clara back where he came from. He was in transit to Victoria British Columbia and was travelling to visit Bertie Pegg who I assume is his natural father. The image for this record can be found on ancestry.

Well, this is the tale of the baby on the boat as I see it.
Lots of food for thought…..

PB

Title: Hilda Amy Wright Peg - Not a home child!
Post by: J.J. on Tuesday 02 December 25 13:40 GMT (UK)
 Well completed P.B. 8) Kudos for finding Amy's resting place and her son!
(and the additional info that Bertie had contact with his son is amazing!)
We've solved a mystery for several families & the guardians who took them in!
This will be such a boon to the many families searching for this connection!



On a side note:
Diseases were a bi-product of the rapid influx of immigrants rushing to
 the land of plenty (in actuality, plenty of land!)
Even many from Eastern Provinces headed there for the Gov't Land Grants...
Huge prairie settlements of shacks & tents made for very unsanitary conditions
helping to create epidemics like typhoid & scarlet fever, smallpox, pneumonia etc.
(One good thing came of it as a disease control laboratory was created 1904)
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: polarbear on Wednesday 03 December 25 02:14 GMT (UK)
Hello Annabananaphone,

I would like to thank you very much for the lovely “thank you” message you sent me this morning through the PM system. It has been a real pleasure to help with your family tree.

Regards,
PB
Title: Another Pegg Family- In Canada not BHC
Post by: J.J. on Sunday 07 December 25 14:23 GMT (UK)
re: The other 2 Pegg children - Not BritishHomeChildren / BHC
No need to research any of this family, as it 's pretty much completed.
There were several Pegg families from Eng - even another Currie Pegg combo
I am posting my finds because it was still a lot of work to find so little
.. but should also help with their whereabouts for family across the pond.
   and to also honour one of those many soldiers of WW1who never returned,

My original searches, re: Amy Pegg were for this pair of siblings;
but luck tapped me on the shoulder & sent me in the right direction.
   I thought I'd found a clue here... as well as some Home Children!
   But again, these two didn't appear on any homechild listings.
As it turns out the family was well-off, and some siblings ventured out...
1906  Living with Petrie family Saskatchewan/Assiniboia West/ (28)/B
   Pegg Wm  domestic?  age 20   b.1886 Eng  imm 1904
   Pegg Amy  servant   age 14   b.1892  Eng imm 1906 
I'd found Wm on subsequent census, but no Amy. but that age was way off!
   https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=census&idnumber=976984&ecopy=e001208086
1921 with wife Jessie & baby Wm. Last Mountain Sask.
   https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=census&idnumber=68285906&ecopy=e003118697
1931 Pegg, J. William- dau. "Hilda" (I'd originally thought a connection to Hilda Amy)
   https://recherche-collection-search.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/home/record?app=census&idnumber=84381394&ecopy=e011737599
     Mother: Jessie Gwendoline Bruton  Father: William Joseph Pegg
         William John Pegg    b.Jan 15 1921  10-27-06-3
         Hilda Gwendoline Pegg   b. Feb 10,  1923   10-27-06-3         
     http://genealogy.ehealthsask.ca/vsgs_srch.aspx
 Looked for a matching GRO Reference
   William Joseph Pegg- mother MdnNm Gilbert   Richmond Surry  June Qtr
   Marriage Jun 1876  Windsor a William Joseph Pegg & Georgina Gilbert
   but the only birth for a sister after him was a Mabel Winifred Mar Qtr 1888
   of which neither name nor age fit that census entry.

But then I found more of this same family in Saskatchewan and Manitoba...
Also looked up nickname "Amy" used in Eng. for Mabel, Amelia & Emily.
So despite the age difference it seems that Mildred (Amy) didn't stay here long,
as in the end, she appears to be on both Sask & U.K. censuses for 1911!!!
 

*********Eldest Brother*********
CEF Casualty Gilbert Joseph Martin Pegg  birth reg 1877 Windsor Dist.
    in 1906  He says imm 1903, wife Rachael says she came in 1904
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=977004&lang=eng&ecopy=e001208580
  Gilbert  & Rachael & 15 mo. old Gilbert W. from England Apr. 24th 1911 - Vermont, U.S.
   to Winnipeg Mb. headed to Brother J.P. Pegg  Loreburn Sask. 
   Gilbert says 1st entry to Canada was Ship Parisian to Halifax Mar. 20 1902
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKQM-52LV
Rachael's entry https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DQ-PSXB-7
 (found 1 birth reg. Sep Qtr 1911  - Ernest Lionel Pegg -MotherMdnNm Guntrip -Southwark)
 -son Gilbert Wm Henry- nothing in Manitoba vital stats - nor for their marriage
    Gilbert  & Rachael & wee sons : Rachel via Portland, Maine, United States
    as a returned Canadian  Ship: ASCANIA   arrival: April 1912
   *headed to Loreburn Sask. an Ethel Guntrip (S.I.L.) positioned before Gilbert Sr.
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=paslisandborent&id=1011308&lang=eng&ecopy=e003623429
I guess his grain sales took him overseas often.
    His land grant was west of the 3rd Meridian right near bro - William Joseph Pegg
   140241 Gilbert Joseph Martin Pegg    SE   6   27  6  W3
               140550 William Joseph Pegg  NE  10  27  6  W3
   His C.E.F. signup for WW1
   attestation Winnipeg, Manitoba - Occ: Farmer & Grain Buyer
   b. March 12 (says 1878) #106034-1st Canadian Mounted Rifles
   Signup Jan 30, 1915   KIA May 28th 1916 Belgium  Will - widow wife Rachael
who was still living in Winnipeg at the time, but moved back to England
   https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=pffww&id=572655&lang=eng&ecopy=572004a
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Tree on FHS says their father William Joseph Pegg Died Mar 1911 Worthing, Sussex, Eng
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/landscape/L8WT-W98

Sister Georgina Pegg - 1881 Edmonton (her movements confirmed all finds)
1911- Quebec, Canada - headed to Loreburn Sask. to visit brother
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2HL8-JSM
1916 Loreburn Saskatchewan/ Last Mountain /  27-6-4-
 William Pegg imm. 1904 farmer & Georgina Pegg 1886 imm 1911
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=43558049&lang=eng&ecopy=31228_4363966-01194
1924 March 1 -Victoria B.C. / In land routing by C.P.Rail
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68D6-9GTS
 Married in British Columbia, Canada  Nov. 13, 1924
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JD88-4LX
 In 1931 B.C. census as Georgina Hole
https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.redirect?app=census&id=86088225&lang=eng&ecopy=e011774383

Pegg, Ernest Marlborough Lional -  1882 Dec Qtr Shoreditch   
Looking for this unusual name found this family dedication with all censuses!
https://www.heenecemetery.org.uk/burial/georgina-pegg-buried-1928

So that rounds out this family...not such a mystery after all, for others searching.
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: annabananaphone on Sunday 07 December 25 16:44 GMT (UK)
"So that rounds out this family...not such a mystery after all, for others searching"  As always, J.J., thank you so much for all this information and work you've done for me. I really appreciate all you've done and for all the work of PolarBear also. You are both gems!
Title: Re: A Rootschat Database for British Home Children
Post by: J.J. on Monday 08 December 25 02:32 GMT (UK)
  Thanks Anna...I rather hijacked your query with the last entry, as this is a completely different family. Who knows if some of the many Prairie Peggs were related somewhere down the line, though! 
  Mind you, I suppose we've all hijacked the original query as well, being that neither search turned out to be HomeChildren...But regardless, we helped solve 2 mysteries & that's just fine!
    Good luck with the rest of your family searches!  J.J.  From the Prairies