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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: amber39 on Friday 20 March 15 16:35 GMT (UK)
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I am enquiring whether anybody remembers a publication called the Outspan during the 1930 /40s published I think in Bloemfontein O F S.
I have someone connected to the paper called Reginald Jabez Rigby and would like to know is he was to do with publishing or editing it.
I will be grateful for any information at all.
Amber39
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can i suggest a contact communication >
http://www.archivalplatform.org/registry/entry/free_state_provincial_archives_repository_bloemfontein/
*** outspan was a radical " aparteid " associated movement in a very difficult period because of the nazi WW foreign policies and anti semenic*[sic spelling] feelings.... lots of nasty stuff happening in that period..... churches in one corner, english in one corner , Boers in another , indians in another etc etc........... everyone had a soap box. good luck on that research
PS also try contact with Library of Congress in USA as a lot of Americans were receiving phampletts and papers from Sud Africa.. they might have some surviving materials....
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Found this link http://www.rootschat.com/links/01hnh
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http://www.scouting.org.za/groups/1stclaremont/history/Bill%20Baker.pdf
and especially http://frankbellamy.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/frank-bellamy-and-outspan-magazine.html
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Thank you fastfusion and pampoen for your prompt replies.
The information you gave fastfusion was very interesting but certainly very controversial and extremely nasty. Thanks for the link.
Thanks for the link pampoen . I now have two links that will keep me busy !
Regards Amber39
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amber> it was a highly troubled period in Sud Africa and a lot of folk were murdered one way or another....
One of my former associates had a sister that was a reporter for The Guardian [SA] and she was, before she was tragically killed, the person who broke the story of the Riots and Massacre at Soweto.......
Luckily the family sold their farm, pretty much after being told to leave, and it was upon her going to collect her husband from the airport that a kangaroo jumped out at the car causing her to be killed by driving into a tree....
Even when I was coming to Australia in the 1960s, it was advised to stay on board with all the Van de Klerk crap goin on in Cape.....
no doubt as you read more and more about Sud Africa you will unearth some nasty materials from time to time....... I have extended family there in the Cape and a lot of other friends... not my cup of tea, as my own family have had murders committed against us in various skirmishes dating back as far as 1878.
fusion
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Thanks for your email about the troubles in South Africa. I remember growing up and hearing about much of it on the news ,it must have been a nightmare to live through. I can particularly remember the Soweto massacres and the incarceration of Nelson Mandela and his subsequent release.
Hopefully much has improved now and will continue to do so.
Regards Amber39
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I feel the comments made here about the previous government are unfair and have no relevance to the search you were doing on the Outspan newspaper. I lived in the country and was involved in educating indigenous people. However post 1994 law and order started deteriorating and in 1995 I was held hostage by those I was trying to help. I therefore migrated to Australia taking my skills and knowledge with me. I have had 2 family members murdered on their farms, one in 2003 and the other in 2012. I suggest you take a trip to South Africa and try walk in Johannesburg and see how long before you are mugged and robbed. Google the number of farm murders since 1994. Land is now being taken from the farmers as in Zimbabwe. In ten years time there will be not enough food and the country will be pleading for help. Google Eskom and see how corruption has crippled a once thriving company. Lastly read the employment section in the paper and see AA after each advert. No AA does not stand for Alcoholics Anonymous it stands for Affirmative Action meaning if you are white do not apply. Imagine doing that in Australia!!! Hope this balances the equation in that there are 2 sides to every story. Do not slate a place unless you have lived there.
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Reginald married on the 9 November 1909 at St Margaret's, Bloemfontein - Church of the Province of South Africa. It is image 54 on the familysearch site.
He stated his profession as 'publisher'.
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Thank you for your reply and interest.
I have a slight connection to the wife of Reginald and had found the marriage. The couple divorced subsequently and Elizabeth nee Hill returned to England with her two sons.
The belief in the family was that Reginald was the Editor of The Outspan and I wondered if this was right.
As a child I have seen copies of this Journal
Regards Amber39
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I am also looking for the Outspan my mother-in-law worked for them? and was on the ist cover
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Hello Whiting53
Welcome to Roots Chat.
Unfortunately I have been unable to find anywhere that holds archives of Outspan . I feel sure there must be some, if only I could find where.
It would be interesting for you to find a photograph of the first edition depicting your Mother-in-Law.
I will keep trying.
Regards Amber39
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Thank you I will carry on looking as well
Coleen
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Hi can I suggest you look at this link on a regular basis http://www.bidorbuy.co.za/item/180787252/The_Outspan_4_April_1952_Registered_at_the_G_P_O_as_a_Newspaper_355_mm_x_260_mm.html you may find other copies of the Outspan coming up for sale.
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Here are some other covers http://southafricancomicbooks.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/chronology-of-south-african-comic-books.html
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Thank you pampoen for addresses. One of them showed what I think was the first edition, if so it showed a feature of Whiting53 's Mother in law. A glamorous blond ! very daring in those times.
Regards Amber39
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I have just found a fairly good condition copy of out span from I think 1947... Will check when I get home..
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Devonangel113
A warm welcome to Roots Chat.
As you know I am trying to find where Reginald Jabez Rigby fits into the publication of Outspan.
Was he the editor, a journalist or a printer ?
Perhaps you can find out from the copy you have.
Look forward to hearing from you
Amber39
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Here is a link you may find interesting...............
http://frankbellamy.blogspot.co.za/2012/12/frank-bellamy-and-outspan-magazine.htm
and while I don't want to get into a political discussion on thus forum, I lived through those times and still continue to live in this country. My husband was part of the conscripted forces who served during those times. The Soweto riots were during the late 70's and was a terrible time for all concerned. Many people left the country after 1994 and took their skills with them, we chose to remain.............I don't judge them it was their choice at the time.
The Outspan magazine had long ago ceased to exist and was named the "Personality" which was a fortnightly magazine carrying various articles, it was by no means radical.
If people are going to make comments please do your research and do not presume that you know what happened here by the overseas press which tend to focus on the bad that goes on here rather than the lot of good that does happen.
As a country we have problems, but so does everywhere.............
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Well said 3 silly dogs, every country has its problems.
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If you Google "the Outspan Magazine" and the click on the Image button on top of the page there are some wonderful covers as well as some reproduced pages of articles.
Pampoen I agree with your comments and thank you for giving another view. It is always too easy to tar every one with the same brush without all the facts. As I said I did not want to get into a political slanging match, this is not the forum for it nor did it have anything to do with the question asked as you stated. But I do not appreciate folk who have never lived here presuming to know what goes on or went on................
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I have a 1947 Outspan newspaper. Front and back pages torn. pages are yellow. Very interesting and funny. I would like to sell it, any idea where I could advertise this as a collectible?
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eBay or Bid and Buy.
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Devonangel113
A warm welcome to Roots Chat.
As you know I am trying to find where Reginald Jabez Rigby fits into the publication of Outspan.
Was he the editor, a journalist or a printer ?
Perhaps you can find out from the copy you have.
Look forward to hearing from you
Amber39
My mothers first husband was James Rigby son of Reginald Jabez. So I would be interested in sharing information. You can find details on GENI.