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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: GfL on Wednesday 18 March 15 12:51 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Twice in one day and still to do with Charles Wilson and Sarah Jane, I'd be grateful if you would take a look at the attached and see if you can make out of the surname of the Next of Kin. To me it looks as though it says "Sister" and then "Lucy Ratchet" ???? or Lucy something. Unfortunately, the quality is quite poor.
Thank you.
Sarah :)
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Hi,
Can you give me his date or year of birth, I have searched by Charles William and sibling Lucy and there are 31. Where was he born or lived?
Thanks
Maggsie
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It looks like Sister (crossed out), then Lucy Ratchett, Roxton Farm, Immingham, Grimsby.
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could be Ratcliffe
Marriages Mar 1918
Ratcliffe Harry
Wilson Lucy B
Bury 8c 802
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Possibly a better scan
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could be Ratcliffe
Marriages Mar 1918
Ratcliffe Harry
Wilson Lucy B
Bury 8c 802
This looks like that one in 1901 - no Charles there in that census
RG13; Piece: 3646; Folio: 128; Page: 22
Bury, Lancashire
John Wilson 40
Mary Wilson 32
Lucy B Wilson 9
William O Wilson 4
Laura Wilson 2
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Looking at the other thread I think we can eliminate that one, as Charles gives his father as Charles Wilson (deceased) on his marriage certificate of 1917. He does give his address as Roxton Farm though, so was obviously living there with his sister.
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Comparing with the R in Roxton, it looks more like Patchett to me, with a stroke leading in to the "a".
However, that all appears to have been crossed out and the word Wife added - so presumably he married after the form was first completed, but at various times he, his sister and wife all had the same address.
Arthur
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How about this marriage - maybe a second one for Lucy?
Marriages Jun 1914
Jennings Lucy Patchett
Patchett Frank Jennings
Grimsby 7a 1719
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It doesn't help with this query but I think the family are transcribed as WILLOW (A*try) in 1901-look for Charles W WILLOW age 7 born Riby.
Maureen
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Lucy Wilson may have been acquainted with Frank Patchett by 1911.
Free index info (but suggest you have a look at their full entries):
Frank Patchett: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YK-K3S
Lucy Wilson: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7YK-K33
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Lucy 1891
Riby, Caistor, Lincolnshire
RG12 Piece 2622 Folio 62 Page 1
Charles Wilson Head Married 28 Groom Domestic Servant Keelby,
Maria Wilson Wife Married 23 Waltham, Lincolnshire
Lucy Wilson Daughter 2 Waltham, Lincolnshire
So where is the Jennings coming from, I can't see a marriage?
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Perhaps Lucy was born before her parents' marriage, as a Jennings?
There is a Patchett birth in Grimsby 1917 - mmn Jennings, not Wilson.
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Marriage, Dec qtr 1889
Charles WILSON
Maria JENNINGS
on the same page, Caistor 7a 1243.
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Birth, Mar qtr 1889
Lucy JENNINGS
Caistor 7a 664
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Here's the link with Charles in 1901
6, Village, Riby, Caistor, Lincolnshire
RG13 Piece 3098 Folio 169 Page 6
Charles Wilson Head 35 Groom & Carter Keelby, Lincolnshire
Maria Wilson Wife 33 Waltham, Lincolnshire
Lucy Wilson Daughter 12 Caistor, Lincolnshire
Fred Wilson Son 9 Riby, Lincolnshire
Charles W Wilson Son 7 Riby, Lincolnshire
Bert W Wilson Son 4 Riby, Lincolnshire
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Problem solved thanks to arthurk who put us on the Patchett trail ;D ;D
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Problem solved thanks to arthurk who put us on the Patchett trail ;D ;D
... and Kay99 who provided the extra scan.
I was just thinking it's a good job you think it's solved (I'll take your word for it ;)) - I enjoy the deciphering, but I was really struggling to keep up with all the different names and possibilities that were flying around ;D
Arthur
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I was just thinking it's a good job you think it's solved (I'll take your word for it ;)) - I enjoy the deciphering, but I was really struggling to keep up with all the different names and possibilities that were flying around ;D
Lucy Jennings married Frank Patchett 1914:
She was born March quarter 1889 the daughter of Maria Jennings.
Maria Jennings married Charles Wilson in Dec quarter 1889
Lucy appears with them as Lucy Wilson in 1891
Lucy and brother Charles W Wilson appear in 1901
She obviously used the name of her stepfather Charles Wilson, but for official things eg marriage used her real name Jennings.
Simples!! ;D ;D ;D
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Hello everyone,
Sorry for the delay in replying to you all but you know how it can get at times !
Thank you for all your work, I wasn't expecting any of that and it may help me sort out things.
Kind regards,
Sarah :)