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Title: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: patriotsday on Sunday 15 March 15 20:23 GMT (UK)
Hello I am researching my father's family his mother was Margaret Higgins of Thurles. Margaret was born June 1902. I believe her mother was Johanna Doxey 1866, her father was Daniel Higgins 1865-1908. if anyone has any information please let me know
Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 March 15 21:21 GMT (UK)
This looks like the family but there is no Margaret!
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Thurles_Town/Pike/1715787/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Thurles_Urban/Thurles_Urban_District/829093/

Could she have also been known as Grace?
Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: patriotsday on Sunday 15 March 15 21:59 GMT (UK)
Yes I believe that it is the family. in the 1911 census the age is right and I do know she had a sister Alice. I can not account why there is a name difference.
Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 March 15 22:39 GMT (UK)
It must have been a pet name or perhaps she is Margaret Grace.
This looks like her birth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBKV-3W5
No sign of a Grace.
Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 March 15 22:49 GMT (UK)
Marriage
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY49-7MP
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY4M-8ZH

Johanna's birth
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY5H-824
Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: patriotsday on Sunday 15 March 15 22:54 GMT (UK)
wow thank you very much
Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 March 15 23:01 GMT (UK)
Daniel's age in 1901 is transcribed as 34 but if you look at the image of the original I think it is a 30 with the 0 crossed out and a 1 added, if I'm correct this looks like his birth.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYPK-6J6
Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 March 15 23:11 GMT (UK)
To be sure of all this it would be best to get some certs.
Margaret's birth. Fathers occupation would confirm if it is the correct family in the Census.
Alice as well perhaps to check parents match. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBLS-WY4
Assuming the parents are correct than the marriage would give fathers names.
Than the parents births would give mothers names.

If everything works out you may be able to get back further from there.

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Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 March 15 23:29 GMT (UK)
Daniel in the Calendar of Wills
4th from the bottom on the left page
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014914/005014914_00399.pdf
Title: Re: Higgins of Thurles
Post by: Sinann on Sunday 15 March 15 23:41 GMT (UK)
This is the only death I can see for Daniel
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRXP-12L
The year is the same as the Calendar of Wills 1906 not the expected 1908 but the age doesn't match the Census.
Death ages are often incorrect as it depends on who the informant is, but this is a good example of how every thing needs to be double checked, we have after all not found Margaret with this family we are still hoping she and Grace are the one and the same.