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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Gloucestershire => England => Gloucestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: VALEMBURY on Friday 13 March 15 08:51 GMT (UK)
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to find the burial record for Richard and William Embury of Bibury, Glos. for 1645 but the online catalogue just arrived on Ancestry doesn't seem to go back that far. I would be so grateful if anyone has access to those early records and can give me the full details. Thank you so much for your time.
Val
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The Bibury records on Ancestry begin in 1551, it's simply that the early records have not been transcribed. Just select Bibury from the parish list on the right-hand side of this page http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=4732 and do your own search.
Jane
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Thank you so much for that Jane, I'll see what I can find. Val
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Hi Val,
Source: Glos Archives (GA) PFC 44 IN 1/1 2, St Mary, Bibury, PR:-
Walter(?) EMBURY, of Bibury, was buried 10th December (but appears to be crossed out, and is sandwiched between entries in November 1645 & January 1646 entries).
Richard EMBURY, son of Richard EMBURY the elder of Bibury, was buried 10th February 1646.
Victor
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Victor, thank you for that info., it was very useful. I'm just starting to find out that there was a Walter in this early family but it was sometimes recorded as Woulton(er). Have you any idea if the 1500's burials will get added to Ancestry on line, it would be help enormously. Your time is much appreciated. Val
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Hi Val,
I've no idea when A******y are likely to post any earlier PRs, but if you wish, I could look up the microfiche for you next Tuesday, but please give me a shopping list.
Victor
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Thank you Victor for your very generous offer. The problem is my shopping list is enormous as I am trying to piece together the early Embury family from Bibury, any bmd 1550 - 1600 and burials from 1600 - 1664. The surname varies so much from the above to Embry, Embrie, Embree, Emery, Emory etc., so I can only say that I would be grateful for anything you are able to discover, every little helps. Much appreciated - Val
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Val, Have you tried the Bibury bregisters on Ancestry, as I suggested? I've been looking through the early records of some other Glos parishes, and I am finding so much more than I ever did on the microfioche at the Archives: the scans are better, the screen lighting is better, etc.
Jane
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Yes Jane, I have been using those records ever since they came online but the burials for Bibury don't start until 1664 and this is what I really wanted help with. Victor was kind enough to offer and being more experienced, thought I would accept. Val
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Hi Val,
I think the best thing is to start at Day 1 with the PR and transcribe all EMBURY entries. Although this means looking at microfiches, which are often difficult to read, and also to mention the outdated English handwriting, I will do the best I can.
Fortunately there are members of staff at Glos Archives (GA) who can often be a great help interpreting entries
I'm not too busy at the moment due to GA PRs being digitalised, so I should be able to devote a reasonable length of time on your lookup.
Victor
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Hi Val,
Yes, if Victor has time to spare then obviously you don't need to check through on Ancestry. However, I have a feeling the early burials are probably in the registers already online. I can see the marriages are at the back of the first register, and the burials might be in there somewhere, too. Never mind, I'm sure looking through the microfiches will keep Victor out of mischief for a while!
On the other hand, I think that the registers on Ancestry are available at the Archives anyway (free), so Victor might be able to take the more comfortable option.
Jane
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Hi Val,
I tried checking the microfiche for St Mary, Bibury, commencing with the first entries dating from 1551. Unfortunately the entries are too hard to read with dark shading on the left and right. Also Bibury is quite like Embury!
I then checked the BTs, but these only date from 1740.
I have, therefore, pre-ordered the actual PRs, 2 volumes, for next Saturday morning and will get back to you. I can't promise to scan both volumes in one visit.
Victor
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Hi Jane,
Thank you for your comments, I didn't know you had replied as I didn't get the usual e-mail notification. Everyone is being so helpful and I really appreciate it but I am also checking every register I can to develop my tree. I don't want people to think I am sitting back and letting others do all the work, I dedicate all day and every day to this project which I enjoy enormously. I live in Suffolk and wish I was nearer to Glos. Archives lol. Very best wishes Val
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Hi Victor,
I must just reiterate why I haven't responded to your message, the same as to Jane, I didn't receive notification. I really appreciate you doing so much for me and feel guilty you are going to so much trouble but please only do what you feel you are able, I will be more than happy with that. Regards Val
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Hi Val,
Source: Glos Archives (GA), PFC 14 IN 1/2 1, All Saints, Down Ampney PR:-
Elenor CAMBRAY the wife of Richard CAMBRAY was bur January 13, 1709.
Richard BAMBRY was bur December 10th, 1747.
No sign of a second marriage for Richard though.
Victor
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Hi Victor,
That is a huge undertaking you offered to do for me regarding our previous correspondence and I don't blame you one bit if you have had a change of heart. However, if I could just ask one favour the next time you are in the Glos. Archives and that is to check for a burial in Bibury 1628/9 for a Thomas Embury, Embry, Embrie or similar. He was baptised on 13/12/1628 and another Thomas was baptised 9/12/1629 with the same father, so the first one must have died in between those dates or they are two separate families. It would solve a lot of problems for me just knowing. Thank you for all your input. Val
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Hi Val,
Well, I've checked the A******y Bibury PRs and can confirm the baptism dates of Thomas 13th December 1628 & Thomas 9th December 1629, Image 19.
However, I could not find any burial for the first Thomas. It is possible that the burial was recorded in another place in the PR, but it is a huge task to check every page.
Victor
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Thank you so much for checking for that burial Victor and you can't do any more than that, - as you say, it might have been recorded out of date order as so often they are. As and when they come online, I will trawl through, that should keep me busy lol! Val
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Not the burials Victor, they don't start until 1665 but I understand from A......y that the earlier ones were missed off accidentally and they will be putting it right towards the end of the year. Thanks again, Val
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Both of these people are my ancestors
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Hi Gladystez14, thank you for much for responding, I have been researching the Emburys for about 15 years now and have got back to the 1500/1600's with the help of Glos. Archives. I would be very interested to find out what you have achieved so far and where you fit into the family line. If you are happy to, perhaps we could exchange by e-mail, let me know.
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I have records dating back to 1590. My great great grandfather was Richard Embury 1819-1850. My great grandfather Thomas Embury 1849-1925 born Sonning. My Grandfather Thomas Embury 1881-1961 born Manchester. My mother is Gladys Embury 1914-1996 born Manchester. I have some photographs from my Grandfather on Manchester burial records and photographs of grave stones.
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Men in Armour for Gloucester 1608
http://www.coaley.net/
BIBURY
Walton EMERY - A40 (aged around 40) - Husbandman - middle stature - trained
CIRENCESTER (St. Lawrence Street)
Richard EMBRY - A40 - lower stature
ELKSTONE (Cheltenham)
Thomas EMBRY Husbandman A20 - talltest stature, trained
TURKDEAN (Northleach)
Thomas EMBERY servant to the said Thomas WAKES - A40 Lower stature
Forest of Dean Family History Forum records
Gloucestershire Marriage Allegations 1747-1837 and Marriage Bonds 1730-1802
(26 EMBRY/EMBURY/EMBREY listed - 5 from Bibury including....)
Richard EMBREY - 14 December 1715 : residence Bibury
to marry
Mary HERBERT - residence: not stated
Marriage by : Licence
Event type: Marriage Licence
Memoranda: Submitted by Mr Harrison 18 May 1716
Samuel EMBREY of Bibury - 3 December 1715
to marry
Elizabeth LUGGER of Bibury
Marriage by: Licence
Memoranda: Submitted by Mr Harrison - 18 May 1716
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Thank you so much Capetown for posting that info, interesting to see the mention of Walton/Walter as I have only just recently discovered him. It all helps and is much appreciated. Val