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General => Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing => Topic started by: Knight-Sunderland on Wednesday 11 March 15 23:26 GMT (UK)
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Got by Ancestry DNA results back today. Ordered the kit 31 Jan, sent off sample 2 Feb, received results 11 March - not a bad speed in my opinion!
Besides from the ethnicity results (38% Irish who would have guessed it!), I notice that out of THIRTY SEVEN pages of potential DNA matches, about 98% of them are American and I only found three people with an obvious link to my family tree - even then it was vague (same surname in a particular area etc.)
I am pleased I ordered it and am enjoying the experience, but I feel that, as a Brit, I may be a bit early to the party! Perhaps I should have waited a year or so until its popularity picked up here - but someone's got to go first!
I call on all my fellow British genealogists to join me on Ancestry DNA - it's very lonely here right now!
Regards,
Jack
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Jack
Ancestry have been selling their test in the US for the last two years now. They got a big take up when they dropped the price to $99. They also had flash sales when the price went down to $79. There were about 700,000 Americans in the database when the test is launched in the UK so we're just a drop in the ocean. I think it's a shame that Ancestry are making us pay so much more than the Americans as I don't think they're going to get the same take up when we're being charged almost double the price.
You might like to have a look at my blog post on the subject:
http://cruwys.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/ancestrydna-test-now-on-sale-in-uk-and.html
Make sure you do the free transfer to Family Tree DNA. There already lots of Brits in the FTDNA database:
https://www.familytreedna.com/learn/imports/transfer-autosomal-ancestry/family-tree-dna-family-finder-transfer-program/
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Congratulations in getting your results back. The 38% Irish is maybe not so surprising as there was quite a bit of Irish immigration to the NE, indeed there are books on it and it has been mentioned on here.
I would agree with DevonCruwys about using the free transfer to ftDNA as that could increase your possibility of getting a match. I tested with ftDNA a few years ago but have no near matches on my paternal line which is disappointing but seeing as my ancestors appear to come from a Northumberland black hole I may be waiting some time. (I have had some luck with autosomal matches but on lines I was not chasing).
Good luck with the DNA searches
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As DevonCruwys said you should be able to find matches with other Brits if you transfer your data to FTDNA. For those like myself who have left the UK to live in Europe there is still no DNA service offered by Ancestry. The transfer to FTDNA involves a small fee if you want to be able to access contact information for the matches. Another option is the free transfer to gedmatch.com where you can find a subset of users from Ancestry, FTDNA and 23andme.
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Hi
I received my DNA results on a very similar timescale to yourself (sent the 3rd February, received back 11th March).
I had a feeling they might have said over 90% Great Britain but in fact the results are 69% Great Britain, 22% West European and 5% Irish (I've not come across anyone in my tree from Ireland or know of anyone), also traces of Scandinavia and Finland. I'm also very surprised that West European is 22%, I wonder if this is for the countries of France/Germany? I don't know of any in my tree. ???
I too have about 40 pages of potential DNA matches but have so far only managed to find about 4 people with links to my tree (they are all in the US), but it's nice to have that connection.
I'm also very pleased that I've done the Ancestry DNA test, I find it fascinating and exciting. It would be nice to have more connections especially in Great Britain. I'll look into the FTDNA as I haven't heard of it before.
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You can't take these ethnicity percentages too seriously as it's not really possible to distinguish between British, Irish, French and German people with the currently available tests. I come out as 20% Irish but I have just one Irish ggg great grandparent. Ancestry have done quite a nice blog post showing the distribution of the ethnicity percentages amongst their staff:
http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2015/03/13/behind-the-scenes-find-out-whats-in-our-dna-here-in-the-ancestry-office/
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Thanks for the reply's everyone, and thank you DevonCruwys for your advice, I have signed up to FTDNA - I'm still getting used to it! I have many matches on FTDNA, and I was relieved to see that the top match had a CLEAR connection to me, which made me feel kind of relieved! I was getting frustrated with all of these matches having NO apparent link whatsoever!
Looking at the forums on FTDNA it looks like I have a LOT to learn! As you can see from the time of this post I have been up quite a while trying to get my head round it all, time for a good night's sleep I think! Look forward to diving in again tomorrow!
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There's lots of useful information available. I would suggested starting with Kelly Wheaton's excellent learning guide:
https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/beginners-guide-to-genetic-genealogy
Sue Griffith has lots of material on her website:
http://www.genealogyjunkie.net/genetic-genealogy.html
There are lots of articles in the ISOGG Wiki:
http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Portal:Autosomal_DNA
Make sure you read the page on autosomal DNA statistics and identical by descent.
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Hi
Are there any fees for FTDNA? If so are they a reasonable cost?
Thanks
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If you mean transfer from Ancestry to FTDNA then you can try it for free, but have to pay a transfer fee to get contact information for the matches that are showing. You can find out more about it here:
https://www.familytreedna.com/AutosomalTransfer?
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A number of projects have coupon codes which give you money off an order. They're mostly for $20 or $10 but that represents a big saving on the transfer. I've got some for some of my projects and I'll share them when I get a chance but it might be a few more days before I have time.
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Thank you for that information, much appreciated.
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I have sent off for mine. It was received by the Lab 28th February. it will be interesting to see the results when they come.
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I got something like 79% Irish on the AncestryDNA test, only 12% Great Britain and for some bizarre reason 6% Scandinavian, 3% East Europe and 1% Finland/North West Russia.
I'm Scottish and based upon my known ancestry should have been (using percentages of DNA one would expect to derive from different relation distances) roughly 48% Irish, 25% Scottish, 19% Ulster Scots/English, 3% German (from Vorpommern on the Baltic Sea) and around 1.5% English.
The Irish is too big (unless of course one sees Ulster people with Scots and English heritage/surnames as simply 'Irish' rather than a distinct ethnic group in Ireland) and the British is far too small considering how many Scottish ancestors I have (my maternal grandfather was wholly Scottish apart from one distant English ancestor and one Ulster grandmother, while my paternal great grandmother was again almost wholly Scottish, for example).
I presume that the DNA test results show up a lot of ancient DNA...? I also wonder how many Scots were used as a reference population for Great Britain.
The Scandanavian, East European and Finnish/Russian does not correspond with my known ancestry. My only link to the continent, as mentioned earlier, is my great-great-great grandfather from West Pomerania in Germany.
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Got by Ancestry DNA results back today. Ordered the kit 31 Jan, sent off sample 2 Feb, received results 11 March - not a bad speed in my opinion!
Besides from the ethnicity results (38% Irish who would have guessed it!), I notice that out of THIRTY SEVEN pages of potential DNA matches, about 98% of them are American and I only found three people with an obvious link to my family tree - even then it was vague (same surname in a particular area etc.)
I am pleased I ordered it and am enjoying the experience, but I feel that, as a Brit, I may be a bit early to the party! Perhaps I should have waited a year or so until its popularity picked up here - but someone's got to go first!
I call on all my fellow British genealogists to join me on Ancestry DNA - it's very lonely here right now!
Regards,
Jack
Just left a post on another Ancestry DNA message string (see "My Results"). I got my results yesterday (so your not alone), I too have been linked with a number of potential matches all in the USA. You think cool, but when you look at their family trees it has more to do with them selecting an incorrect hint which is linked to your tree than any major bloodline connection. The distant cousin list I'm not sure of I think its a bit of a space filler, because when you are talking 5th - 8th cousin then you are pretty far removed. Is there not a saying about everybody being related "seven degrees of separation"?
I too have a high Irish percentage 53%, like many others which suggests a "Celtic" ancestry and also 8% Scandinavian. Its all fascinating stuff.
100%Gog
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My results from Ancestry were as follows: 56% Great Britain, 34% Europe West, 4% Europe East plus 5 other regions. I was so dissappointed that it wasn't more specfic that I decided to transfer results to Prosapia Genetics. The results from them were 56% Highlands, Scottish, 31.5% Iberian and 11.9% Abkhazian. The GPS tool found my biogeographic point of origin within 218 Kilometeres of Latitude 45.72 and Longitude 7.25. This is a place near Aosta. Apparently These results are often seen among individuals of Swiss origin who came from a genetic pool similar to mine.
Well, I assume my Douglass family must have come from Scotland orginally although I can only trace them back to 1805 in Bethnal Green, London. I was disappointed in the results couldn't tell me more. I have yet to connect to anyone linking to my family tree. Please note I live in England.
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There is an option on the Ancestry DNA to download your raw data results....is this of any use? I've downloaded it in a .txt format can it be used for any other programs, software etc?
100%Gog
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As an ex-teacher, I always told my students that there is no such thing as a stupid question! But I think this one of mine qualifies as stupid. I neither understand nor know anything about genetics and DNA groups etc and I do have a question.
I am female and have 2 brothers! A friend tells me that if we have the same parents, we would have the same DNA results. would that be correct?
Thanks
Jeanne 😄
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Thanks for reply. Results were downloaded and sent to familytreeDNA and Prosapia Genetics. I would be interested to hear about other programs/software I could download to.
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Suggest you also consider gedmatch.com as this is a site where there are uploads from FTDNA, Ancestry and 23andme.
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Jeanne. Look this up on google and found the following information: Even though siblings share half their DNA, they can share any number of markers in a DNA test. They might match up at all of them or none of them. Or more likely, they will match up at some number in between.
This might seem weird at first. After all, two siblings share half of their DNA. So they should share of half their DNA in a DNA test too, right?
Well this would be true if a DNA test looked at all of a person’s DNA. Unfortunately, very few of them do. Instead, they look at only 15 or 20 out of millions and millions of possible spots.
Because these tests look at so few markers, by chance, one sibling might end up sharing only some DNA at the markers tested. Or they might not share any DNA at all.
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:D ??? ;D. Umm yeeessss! OK!
Thank you so much for that, - I think!
Seriously, I really appreciate your looking that up for me, and I will study it diligently until it penetrates what little grey matter I have left after being in the 18th century for the last week or so!
Thanks again😃
Jeanne
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To Craclyn, Thank you for the suggestion of the web site gedmatch.com. I have now downloaded the results to them.
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Do these websites cost money?
I've had a look at a couple and saw a fee on one.
Are there any you can download results to but are free?
Thanks
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None that I know of. My feeling is don't waste your money until they get a lot cheaper!
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I transferred my Ancestry DNA data to FTDNA for free yesterday but a message came up telling me I had to get three other friends to do the same thing before it was free or pay US$39. As I did not want to drag anyone else into what I suspected was a chain letter type of sales pitch I decided to pay the US$39. What did I get, not much really apart from a couple of pages of matches which to be honest was little different to what I already had with Ancestry.
The FTDNA website had a number of tabs to click for various types of processes and results but seemed to involve parting with your money at each step of the way.
There was a section on MyOrigins which I hoped would confirm something similar to what Ancestry had for me but all that appeared was a demo. There was however a blue bar at the top of the page showing 95% complete and the words "You're almost done! We'll finish processing your results in 3-5 business days". I am hoping that this is to process my DNA raw data and come up with an ethnicity estimate similar to Ancestry, if not then I will feel conned. >:(
100%Gog
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There was however a blue bar at the top of the page showing 95% complete and the words "You're almost done! We'll finish processing your results in 3-5 business days". I am hoping that this is to process my DNA raw data and come up with an ethnicity estimate similar to Ancestry, if not then I will feel conned. >:(
Yes its just a case of being a little patient.
You my find that ftDNA gives a different result for your origins for perfectly valid reasons as have been discussed in various blogs and in the ftDNA forum (and maybe on the Ancestry forum although I have not looked at that)
At least you could transfer your results. I have just had a reply back from Ancestry saying they do not, presently, allow people to transfer results into them which is disappointing as I wanted to see how their shakey origin tool would have interpreted my autosomal results.
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Yes its just a case of being a little patient.
You my find that ftDNA gives a different result for your origins for perfectly valid reasons as have been discussed in various blogs and in the ftDNA forum (and maybe on the Ancestry forum although I have not looked at that)
At least you could transfer your results. I have just had a reply back from Ancestry saying they do not, presently, allow people to transfer results into them which is disappointing as I wanted to see how their shakey origin tool would have interpreted my autosomal results.
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Thanks for the feedback davidft.
I too am interested in what FTDNA come up with compared to Ancestry. I was surprised to see a 53% Ireland ethnicity in my results for Ancestry as I had a previous DNA test done about 7 - 8 years ago with Roots for Real and that showed a fairly strong Iberian Peninsular result. As I have researched my family back 7 generations in NW Wales the Irish connection seems more plausible.
100%Gog
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I too am interested in what FTDNA come up with compared to Ancestry. I was surprised to see a 53% Ireland ethnicity in my results for Ancestry as I had a previous DNA test done about 7 - 8 years ago with Roots for Real and that showed a fairly strong Iberian Peninsular result. As I have researched my family back 7 generations in NW Wales the Irish connection seems more plausible.
Yes seeing what various sites give for your "ethnic" inheritance can be interesting. I have uploaded my results to gedmatch.com as they have several analysing tools on there that you can use, all of which give varying results. For example one of the tests on there gives me a large chunk of Basque inheritance whilst that is not mentioned on ftDNA at all - but then they do use broader classifications. (I was aware of the possibility of a Basque influence from previous research on the raw numbers from my tests results and what they allegedly pointed to).
In short all these "ethnic" make up projections are just guesses but as more and more people test hopefully they can become more meaningful.
I wouldn't worry about what the Ancestry results say as they are less reliable than most in my opinion based on what other people say of the science behind them and the very small reference groups they use.
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Suggest you also consider gedmatch.com as this is a site where there are uploads from FTDNA, Ancestry and 23andme.
Hi Craclyn,
There is a problem currently with Gedmatch.
I tried two days ago to get a confirmation code and I got one but when I used it it did not work so I emailed Gedmatch and they advised that they were having problems with their hosting company and they are working hard to correct the situation.
Joe
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I got my results from FTDNA using my uploaded raw data from Ancestry DNA. Comparing the two sets of ethnicity estimates show fairly similar results. I suppose that is to be expected when using the same raw data.
Ancestry DNA Estimates: FTDNA Estimates:
Ireland - 53% British Isles - 50%
Europe West - 23% Western & Central Europe - 48%
Great Britain - 10% Central Asia - 2%
Scandinavian - 8%
Italy/Greece - 4%
Iberian Peninsular - 1%
Caucasus - 1%
However, no Scandinavian, Iberian or Italy/Greece in FTDNA estimates. The interpretation in FTDNA for Central Asia is a bit more east of the Caucasus in Ancestry. The map footprint for Central Asia in FTDNA shows Iran/Afghanistan (Which surprised me), the map footprint for the Caucasus shown in Ancestry gives an area between the Black and Caspian Sea e.g. Armenia, Georgia etc.
I want to upload my raw data to Gedmatch as well, to see if I can do another comparison. Unfortunately as others on this thread have said Gedmatch is still down :(
100%Gog
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When comparing between Ancestry and ftDNA one thing to keep on mind is that ftDNA only uses 15 broad population identifiers whereas Ancestry use 26 so of necessity ftDNA will seem to be less “accurate” than Ancestry. This is actually the wrong way round as it is the Ancestry results that are less “accurate” and based on more spurious assumptions. They are accused of constantly overstating Scandinavian origins, maybe as a result of their very small and unrepresentative comparison database.
Do not be surprised by the Iran/Afghanistan footprint there is an explanation for this which you will see when you use the diagnosis tools on gedmatch and follow up the results there with a little research (won’t spoil it and tell you as you might discover things i missed). When you use gedmatch you will probably also get an answer to your Scandinavian question.
As to gedmatch being down do not despair, i only uploaded by data on Thursday after several abortive attempts – that comes of not reading the upload instructions properly. ::) The first stages of the upload are completed very quickly and you can use part of the site. However, the completion of full upload takes a while (3 days in my case) before you can compare against the full database. Its worth doing and worth the wait in my experience as i got some interesting results.
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I've got mine back from Ancestry, and apart from one person whose names and locations do seem to have a near resemblance to mine, nothing else makes any sort of sense, in fact that person is supposed to be mildly possible, whereas the ones who are extremely likely by ancestry's standards don't seem at all possible in the scheme of things. I've uploaded my results to Gedmatch, but am waiting until the processing as finished, ask for ftDNA, I've just got the following:
European 96%
British Isles 66%
Scandinavia 25%
Western and Central Europe 5%
Middle Eastern 3%
Asia Minor 3%
Ancestry reads
Europe 98%
Great Britain 52%
Ireland 18%
Scandinavia 13%
Europe West 9%
Trace Regions 6%
Iberian Peninsula5%
Asia South 2%
Finland/Northwest Russia1%
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I got my results this week and have been trying to wrap my head around them. I'm British born and all ancestors aside from a couple of Irish ones so far have been born and lived in the South of England. So I was quite surprised to have this as my results:
Europe 100%
Europe West 44%
Ireland 29%
Scandinavia 15%
Trace Regions 12%
Iberian Peninsula 5%
Great Britain 3%
Finland/Northwest Russia 2%
European Jewish < 1%
Europe East < 1%
I have to say my heart sank at the 3% Great Britain. 3% is all!?! Especially when more obscure regions ranked above it. But then I looked at where their region for West Europe covers, and it basically covers all of the South of England so I guess that makes more sense. I have absolutely no idea on the 15% Scandinavian. You certainly wouldn't guess looking at me, I have very dark brown eyes and hair!
No decent matches so far, the nearest one is a 4th - 6th cousin or something. I don't have ancestry subscription at the moment so I can't really contact any of them. I'm considering paying the $39 to transfer it to FTDNA but not sure if it's worth it.
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I also received my results from Ancestry recently and they were quite surprising ! As far as I can tell my family is 100% from a very specific area within North West Wales - not far from Gog100 in fact so I can understand the 99% Europe bit although I didn't expect the high 61% Irish; but the one that intrigues me, but I think it is an error is the Pacific Islander ! Again there are a few 4 - 6 cousins but I have not yet looked properly at their trees to see if there are any matches.
Europe 99%
• Ireland 61%
• Great Britain 19%
• Europe West 12%
• Trace Regions 7%
• Finland/Northwest Russia 2%
• European Jewish 2%
• Iberian Peninsula 2%
• Europe East 1%
• Scandinavia < 1%
Pacific Islander < 1%
• Trace Regions < 1%
• Melanesia < 1%
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and here are my husband's. His fathers family hail from around Llangollen and Shropshire but his mother's family are from the Suffolk coastal area . He is tall, fair haired (reddish) and blue eyed !
Europe 100%
• Scandinavia 34%
• Great Britain 27%
• Ireland 25%
• Europe West 5%
• Trace Regions 9%
• Iberian Peninsula 4%
• Italy/Greece 3%
• European Jewish 2%
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I've just been contacted by a lady in Canada who got a match from Gedmatch, she is convinced we are 3rd cousins, but nothing in my or her tree is even remotely similar, nor the areas that my or her family would have been located in. I don't see how it is possible, but I admit to not understanding how the dna works.
Any ideas?
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I have also been contacted by a lady about my husband's - she is a 4 - cousin match. His mother's family originally come from suffolk as do her gg grandparents so we suspect the match is from there. Unfortunately I have not done a huge amount of research on his side although I have hearsay family tree which seems to match up. I hope to get the papers out this weekend and see if I can see the match if any
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Reply to BevStimpson's post
I would contact her and ask her of she can tell you all the surnames in the third and fourth cousins generations. Two reasons for this, first you may recognise a surname and second you may spot some omissions in hers or your research that would benefit from further digging.
Gedmatch does tell its customers when they make a universal match on their site to do the other test on their site
Please DO NOT send emails to anyone on this list without first using the one-to-one utility to verify that it is a legitimate match.
to confirm it as a true match so you could ask her if she has done this or you could do it yourself (I assume you are a gedmatch customer)
I have several matches on gedmatch at 4th cousin level mostly in America but one in the UK. The interesting thing for me is these matches potentially match in some cases further back (7th cousin) level between themselves. I have not followed this up but will try to in due course.
Whatever you decide I wish you good luck but do think its worth enquiring into a little deeper
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Mine just came in and my ethnicity figures are as follows:
Europe 100%
Europe West 42%
Great Britain 29%
Ireland 24%
Trace Regions 5%
Scandinavia 3%
Finland/Northwest Russia 2%
Iberian Peninsula < 1%
My family tree is something like 45% west Scotland, 45% NE England, 5% Ulster, 5% Welsh borders. GEDMatch kit number A828783.
Iain
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Further to my earlier post - we have a clear match; my husband's g (3) grandmother is a sister to the lady's g (2) grandmother which is quite exciting as we have been in contact and she has introduced me to another similar link except that we have a brother and sister marrying a brother and sister from the other family - does this make them double cousins ?
There are several matches with origins in my area of the countryside and have messaged a couple of them but no response.
Nesta
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Mine arrived late last night and I could not resist a quick skim through before bedtime. Already found three matches which confirm that I was on the right track with paper trail research for the MRCAs involved. Going to have fun at the weekend looking more closely at the rest of the results.
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Thought I'd join in, as I got mine through last week from AncestryDNA and they mostly seem to match up with what I have already, minus the trace regions.
98% Europe
- 62% Great Britain
- 28% Ireland
Trace regions
- 4% West Europe
- 2% Scandinavia
- 1% Finland/Northwest Russia
- <1% Iberian Peninsula (for now, this disproves an old family tale we had about Spanish sailors wrecking off Ireland and marrying locals, 'explaining' some of our Irish lot having olive complexion etc. The fact an Irish/Italian friend of mine had this same story made me doubt it some anyway.)
- <1% East Asia
- <1% Polynesia
On my Mum's side I've traced back to 1800s, all from Wales. Dad's side is Scottish, Manx, and Irish. I've transferred my raw data to gedmatch, ftdna, and prosapia but I'm waiting for them to process on ftdna and prosapia, and gedmatch confuses me a little with all its scientific lingo, but I think they all sort of match up.
I've had a few possible very distant cousins contact me on Ancestry, but haven't had a link with one aside from a surname and haven't replied to the other (whoops). I did find one very likely match for a 4th-6th cousin, and after checking her tree at the library I found our link. No word from her yet though, but fingers crossed (though I don't think she'll be able to give me any info on our shared ancestors, I have a good chunk to share with her).
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hiraethu isn't the Iberian pennisular part of Spain? You could have one ancestor from the shipwrecked spanish man (or a soldiers wife) and now the blood is that diluted it makes for 1%.
I'd like to get some of my family to do an ancestral DNA test, very white people who go a lovely dark brown very quickly in the sun (no known spanish or any other non-irish/english blood) compared to me with proven (Maori blood). I can't tan as well. Some of my family have the Spanish legend but it could be anything?
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It's certainly possible that there is Spanish heritage there, but this story was more prevalent before I started researching my tree and found (so far, anyway) no Iberian blood anywhere in our records. If there are Spanish ancestors, they're probably a lot further back (or more diluted) than the story states.
Could just be a very common story among Irish descendants though?
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Our story is about a Spanish lady 😄
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I wonder if some people are surprised by their results because they're not looking all that far back? Yes, you can have traced 95% of your ancestors to Scotland, or the Home Counties, but how far back have you been able to trace?
Just because 95% of the family lived in (eg) the midlands two hundred years ago doesn't mean that ethnically you should assume that you're 95% British. The more distant ancestors could have come a long way to reach the Home Counties --- Saxons from Germany, eastern europeans from the Silk route, Africans brought back from the caribbean --- who knows?
I haven't organised the test for myself yet but hope to do so in the not too distant future. On my tree I've got one branch in Dublin in the 1700s and a gtgtgrandmother born in Scotland in the 1800s. But the Dublin branch may well have gone there from Scotland (presbyterians), and the scottish grannie was only born there because her family moved from the midlands for work.
Further back, 1000 years, who knows? I strongly suspect that the Liverpool side of the family originally came from somewhere in eastern europe/asia (due to our carrying a gene for an illness which is common in that area). The Leicestershire bunch almost certainly had at least some Dutch ancestry before records began (from surname studies). And my siblings are so fair that I swear they would burn in the moonlight (I've got the eastern med tanning gene though!) -- so maybe some scandinavian somewhere? I might be miles out in these guesses but if the only reason to organise the test is to prove what you already know, what's the point? Elucidating the hitherto unknown is what makes it fun!
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I have always pondered getting a dna test, but I do not know if they are good value for money because they are expensive
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Worth a try sirsimon.
Among other things it helps to confirm some of the paper trail research you have done. Three of my new matches this week have given me an increased degree of confidence that I have made the correct decisions on a couple of sets of 4th great grandparents and a set of third great grandparents. No longer feel the need to keep revisiting those lines to see if I might have lost the plot somewhere along the way.
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thanks
maybe one day, I would like to know what percentage of what I am.
Through my father I am welsh and irish, through my mother I am english. I was born in Wales
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The real value of it is in using matches to identify common ancestors rather than in the % mixture. Results for that are pretty variable depending on which company you test with or which calculator you run your results through. One company gives my Scandinavian element as 25% and another gives it as 2%, so not much can be concluded from that. Maybe in the future that type of analysis will be more reliable.
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I was searching online about two weeks ago and stumbled into RootsCHAT and to this thread. Someone mentioned uploading their DNA to Propsapia Genetics and I decided to do the same. I ordered the Super GPA Test, but I'm a little confused since I didn't receive a timeline to support these results. The remix is quite a bit different from my Ancestry Ethnicity Results, see below:
My AncestryDNA Ethnicity Estimate:
Europe 100%
Europe West 36%
Great Britain 27%
Ireland 27%
Scandinavia 5%
Iberian Peninsula 3%
Italy/Greece 1%
Prosapia GPS Results
Highland Scottish
Prosapia Remix Results -
Frisians (Netherlands)70%
Kuwait (Kuwait)16%
Alsatian (France) 12%
Koryak (Russia) 4%
I also uploaded to FTDNA and GEDmatch.
Paternal/Maternal direct line: Wall, McQueen, Lanier, Moore, Johnston, Jackson, Wilson, Hooks, Blackman, McKittrick, Cooper, McGregory, Shirey, Williams, Humphries, Herndon, Edison, Jasper, Mullican, Millican, Taylor, Larkin, Douglas, Stuart, Diggs, Waller, Malone, Eaves, Cooke/Cook, Norred, Crenshaw, Estes, Holyfield, Pye, Anderson, Hill, Brantley, Carlisle, Boles, Ramsey, Grant, Formby, Thompson, Baer, Mulloy, Reeves, Akin, Ogletree, Duncan, Parrott, Mewborne, Willson/Wilson, Smith, Nichols, James, O'Hara, Ward, Dalryimple, Caldwell, Douglas, Gordon, Bayes, Belchier, McGhie, Griffin, Presley, Baylis, McCarty, Kelly, Pomfrett, Tomlinson, Lucas, Alman, Clarke, Bassano, Collett, Washington, Pope, Jordon, Rawlings, Sampson, Bennett, Twigden, Dickens, Fox, Thomas, Ferrar, Miles, Randle, Hicks.
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Prosapia GPS Results
Highland Scottish
Prosapia Remix Results -
Frisians (Netherlands)70%
Kuwait (Kuwait)16%
Alsatian (France) 12%
Koryak (Russia) 4%
I also uploaded to FTDNA and GEDmatch.
It would be interesting to see how closely your Prosapia results match to your ftDNA results when you get them as Prosapia use ftDNA for at least some of their tests.
As to the GPS results I don't know what they are meant to be claiming here as this is an analysis of all your autosomal lines so how can they say it is one geographical location?
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Kat how did you receive your records, did they send you an email to say they were back and how long did you have to wait please?.
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Kat how did you receive your records, did they send you an email to say they were back and how long did you have to wait please?.
They sent an email informing me the results were available to view and it really didn't take long at all, I uploaded my DNA one morning and the results were ready when I checked in the afternoon.
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Prosapia GPS Results
Highland Scottish
Prosapia Remix Results -
Frisians (Netherlands)70%
Kuwait (Kuwait)16%
Alsatian (France) 12%
Koryak (Russia) 4%
I also uploaded to FTDNA and GEDmatch.
It would be interesting to see how closely your Prosapia results match to your ftDNA results when you get them as Prosapia use ftDNA for at least some of their tests.
As to the GPS results I don't know what they are meant to be claiming here as this is an analysis of all your autosomal lines so how can they say it is one geographical location?
I had to read up on the GPS mapping as well. This is on the Prosapia website:
"Geographic Population Structure, or GPS, algorithm, attempts to estimate one' origin as if it were a single point. GPS coordinates indicate the place where your DNA was formed by combination of several gene pools from populations coming together and creating a genetic line that would eventually lead to the individual being analyzed. Because borders changed throughout history, your ancestors may have lived in a different country that once ruled the region."
As for FTDNA, I've had my results since last year, when they were having some issues. One day I looked at my Origins and it was much the same as Ancestry and then two days later it was all lumped under this:
European 100%
Western and Central Europe 87%
Scandinavia 13%
My brother's results were back in February of this year and his are quite accurate and not lumped all together.
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As for FTDNA, I've had my results since last year, when they were having some issues. One day I looked at my Origins and it was much the same as Ancestry and then two days later it was all lumped under this:
European 100%
Western and Central Europe 87%
Scandinavia 13%
My brother's results were back in February of this year and his are quite accurate and not lumped all together.
I can understand that. About a year ago ftDNA reworked all their origins results with some new "improved" method. Ubder the new method I come out as
European 100%
Western and Central Europe 67%
Scandinavia 33%
Trouble is I can't remember what I was before (still I got lots of alternatives from gedmatch).
Thanks for your comments on prosapia I may upload there in due course just for curiosity's sake
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As for FTDNA, I've had my results since last year, when they were having some issues. One day I looked at my Origins and it was much the same as Ancestry and then two days later it was all lumped under this:
European 100%
Western and Central Europe 87%
Scandinavia 13%
My brother's results were back in February of this year and his are quite accurate and not lumped all together.
I can understand that. About a year ago ftDNA reworked all their origins results with some new "improved" method. Ubder the new method I come out as
European 100%
Western and Central Europe 67%
Scandinavia 33%
Trouble is I can't remember what I was before (still I got lots of alternatives from gedmatch).
Thanks for your comments on prosapia I may upload there in due course just for curiosity's sake
I uploaded two test to Prosapia. The first test I selected the "Super GPS" and the second test I selected the regular GPS. On the second test I decided to upgrade to the Super GPS (for just under $13.00 US). The results were in last night and they were exactly the same as the regular test, no change. I emailed this morning for an explanation, hopefully they will answer.