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Title: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: Ravintola on Thursday 05 March 15 11:35 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find details of John Henry Johnson's parents.   On 1871 census he is living with his grandfather William in Calverley Leeds, 1881 the same and o the 1891 with his wife Elizabeth.  He died in 1909.    Elizabeth then remarried to a William Schofield c June 1914.      Any help would be gratefully received, thank you.
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: avm228 on Thursday 05 March 15 12:20 GMT (UK)
What age was he in the censuses you have found, and where born?

Have you traced his marriage to Elizabeth?
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: heywood on Thursday 05 March 15 12:36 GMT (UK)
Hello,

You may need to purchase the birth certificate:

John Henry Johnson March 1865 Bradford volume 9b page 226

It looks as though William had 2 sons- George and Simeon P in 1871.

John Henry's marriage shows no father.

Heywood
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: Ravintola on Tuesday 10 March 15 11:08 GMT (UK)
Thank you for responses.  He was born in Pudsey (unconfirmed) and was born in 1865 (approx). On the 1881 census he is living with his grandad and he was aged 16.  In 1891 he is married at 26, and the the 1901 he was 36. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 10 March 15 12:47 GMT (UK)
Hello,
Just checking and I think I gave you the wrong info- sorry!

1861 Piece: 3346/ Folio: 8/Page: 10

Looks to be your family. There is a daughter Sarah aged 13yrs and a son William 15 yrs, and George 9 yrs.
Have you followed them? There are older children in 1851.
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 10 March 15 15:46 GMT (UK)
A birth or marriage certificate would confirm his father's name.
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: Calverley Lad on Tuesday 10 March 15 18:24 GMT (UK)
Could this be John Henry 1871 Armley?
9 Cheltenham St    William    JOHNSON    Head    39    Mar    Railway Engine Driver    Crook  Nottinghamshire        
      Annie    JOHNSON    Wife    40            Mar       Doncaster     
      Joseph    JOHNSON    Son    4       Scholar    Leeds        
      Annie E    JOHNSON    Dau    3       Scholar    Armley        
      John H    JOHNSON    Son    2                  Armley
Information supplied by calverley.info
 Brian
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 10 March 15 18:25 GMT (UK)
A birth or marriage certificate would confirm his father's name.

1861 Piece: 3346/ Folio: 8/Page: 10
Looks to be your family.
There is a daughter Sarah aged 13yrs and a son William 15 yrs, and George 9 yrs.


I wonder if this could be the ch. of William & Eliza’s son
William Johnson 1844 Calverley
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NBNX-MWP

there’s this marriage but after 1865  ???

1868 marriage Calverley (St Wilfrid, Calverley Yorkshire BMD)
William Johnson 24 (1845) f William
Sarah GILL 23 f John
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N6ZC-828

there’s a William & Sarah Johnson with 2 children Ellen & Ann Eliza on 1881c and
with no children on 1871c, father William Johnson born c1845 Pudsey

1881c https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQF3-83V
1871c https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBZ4-MRH

as heywood mentions a b/c or m/c would confirm John’s parent(s)
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 10 March 15 18:30 GMT (UK)
On 1871 census he is living with his grandfather William ,
1881 the same

Calverley Lad if I'm looking at the correct censuses JHJ is here with g/p

1871c
John H Johnson age 6 Pudsey Grandson of William & Eliza
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBZ4-4HW

1881c
John Henry Johnson age 16 Calverley grandson of William
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQFQ-Z39
Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 10 March 15 18:36 GMT (UK)
If I remember, son William is a Joiner and can be followed and dad/ grandad William is a quarryman/ stone labourer.
I think there was an older Mary in 1851.

Title: Re: John Henry Johnson's parents
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 10 March 15 18:54 GMT (UK)
If I remember, son William is a Joiner and can be followed and dad/ grandad William is a quarryman/ stone labourer.
I think there was an older Mary in 1851.

William's occ.  joiner on 1881c census

JHL born c1865 might be the son of one of William & Eliza's daughters and maybe that's why he's living with his grandparents