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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Clare => Topic started by: maryanne stillsearching on Thursday 05 March 15 05:57 GMT (UK)
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Hi all, and help, where do I start looking for information from Ireland??
I'm trying to trace the family of my gg-grandmother by adoption, Bridget Hurley, born County Clare (according to death records). She married John Josiah Bone in 1865 and when no children resulted from the marriage, they adopted a boy "named and known as" John James Bone. Bridget died in Ballarat, Victoria, Australia in 1898 and, with the exception of a few personal effects, left her possessions to her adopted son (husband having preceded her by 5 years). From the newspaper obituary and Bridget's will, I have the following family information:
. executor of the will was her nephew William Armstrong Jnr, officer of the post, of Peel St, Ballarat
. age at death given as 57, so born (supposedly) around 1841
. licensed victualler by trade - she operated the Commercial at the time of her death.
. resident of Ballarat of "upward of thirty years".
. parents' names on her death record are James Hurley and Ann Kearny.
. personal mementos (jewelery) left to the following -
"my sister Mrs Annie Luney of Elaine", "my sister Mrs Catherine Parkinson of Dunnstown", "my sister Mrs Mary Armstrong of Ballarat" and "my friend Nellie Luney who has been assisting me in my business". These have been likely identified as -
.. Ann Hurley married Patrick Looney 1688 Children include a daughter Ellen, known as Nellie. Residence in 1904 of family - Elaine, Ballarat. Ann Looney died in 1916; details provided give an age 82 (born @ 1834), parents James Hurley and Mary Cavey.
..Catherine Hurley married William Parkinson in 1856. Catherine Parkinson's records show she died in 1912 at Mt Egerton (Ballarat area) age 85 years (born @ 1827), parents James Hurley and Anne Keary.
..Mary Hurley married George Armstrong in 1860. Their eldest son was William Richard Armstrong. In 1904 he was a postal officer, residing in Peel St, Ballarat To date, I haven't been able to find a record of Mary/Maria nee Hurley's death.
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This all looks pretty solid to me, except - Catherine and Bridget's mother is Ann Kearney, Ann is Mary Cavey. OK, maybe a second marriage on James Hurley's part? Or an error in the data provided? A search for other people who may be siblings gives me records for the following..
.Lawrence Hurley died 1921 Sydney b @ 1840 parent James Hurley and Ann Keary or Kery.
.Denis Hurley, died 1898 Colac age 71 (b@1827) parents James Hurley and Ann Cavey
.James Hurley 1830 (C. Clare) - 1909 (Victoria) parents JAmes Hurley and Ann Cavey
.Micheal Hurley 1835(?)-1870(Victoria) parents Martin Hurley and Mary Cavey
.Mary Gerte Hurley 1874(I know, far too late), - 1926 (East Melb) parents Anthony Hurley and Mary Keavy
.Mary Hurley born 1874 Bungaree, parents Anthony Hurley and Mary Keavy
Yes, the 1874 records are two different records. Different numbers and all. I suspect an error somewhere.
I have the following place names as potentially associated with all these Hurleys -Kildimo (but according to Wiki, it's in Limerick!) , Kilfarboy and Emlagh (which seems to be everywhere!!!!!).
I don't know what of the above informations helps (that would be nice), hinders (I suspect likely) or totally confuses (that's me) but I am so hoping.....
..can anyone shed any light on this Gordian knot of a Hurley-Cavey/Keavy/Keary/Kearny complex? Or can anyone give me some ideas on where to start?
Muchly, muchly appreciated are any and all suggestions
Maz (who now knows why she's been putting off tracking the Irish bits of the family. Argh...)
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Do you have the marriage certificate Vic. 1865. It will have information given by Bridget and John BONE about their origins.....age, birthplace, parents' names.
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Hi... the marriage certificate gives John Josiah Bone, from Devon, and he was relatively easy to follow up - born Tavistock, Devon, to Thomas Bone and Rebecca Wingate. Bridget's details are - born C. Clare, Ireland, parents James Hurley and Ann Kearney, father's profession labourer - which means anything. If her father never came to Australia, it's not even necessarily accurate. On other records I've accessed online, Kearney has appeared as Kearny, Keary and Keavy as well. I don't have all the extended family records on paper :) However, the marriage records gives no further information than the two names and Co. Clare, Ireland. (Pity. None of my collection of marriage records give anything much more than a county if it's out of Australia.) Sigh. maz.
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Where were they married...what age does Bridget give....who are the witnesses please.
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The dates you are looking for are well before the start of civil registration, census and most church records in Ireland so I would be inclined to continue checking Australian records, newspaper articles, etc. to see if Bridget's parents might also have come to Ireland.
Also, have you tried finding living descendants from the other siblings/possible siblings in case they have more details on the Hurley family?
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Keep an eye on this site particularly the Donated Material, they regularly get new records.
http://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/genealog.htm
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Have you tried to find Bridget and her siblings on passenger list/ s
The sisters may have traveled at different dates.
It may give more info on the family.
Could the adopted son be related to Bridget or her husband such as son of unmarried sister.
I'm happy to hear adopted son was treated fairly in her will.
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Hi people,
Thanks for the information. Sorry about the delay responding (have had unexpected time demands). I'm definitely looking into these pathways. I thought there would be a problem with civil records and was wondering what other pathways were there. Will definitely follow these up.
I did look at the adopted son being an illegitimate or orphaned family member, with no luck. However, Ballarat was the site of a large orphanage in the 1800s. With no records form the 1800s surviving, of course. :) Sigh.
Thanks again maz (wishing there were more hours in the day)
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I have the following place names as potentially associated with all these Hurleys -Kildimo (but according to Wiki, it's in Limerick!) , Kilfarboy and Emlagh (which seems to be everywhere!!!!!).
Regarding the "Kildimo" reference. There is a civil parish called Kilfearagh in southwest County Clare which has a townland called Kildeema. Also a townland called Emlagh. However, I can't see any Hurley occupiers there in Griffith's Valuation.
Follow the coastline 20 miles northeast and you come to the civil parish of Kilfarboy, which amongst others contains the townlands of Kilfarboy, Kildeema North and Kildeema South. Griffith's Valuation shows no Hurley occupiers in the townland of Kilfarboy, but there are Hurleys in both Kildeema North and South. Hurley is a common name though. But maybe worth noting regarding the "Kildimo" reference.
Edited to add:
You can have a look here: http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/home.jsp
I couldn't see anything, but the townland in "Kilferagh" is written as "Kildimo".
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hi mary ann.
Kildeema [Kildimo] Graveyard, Quilty, is the pace where you find the remains of the hurley family
are buried.
www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/genealogy/don.../index_graves.htm
i think this ann (nancy)keavey family from the 1839 census of miltown malbay
dunsallagh west.
11 John KEAVEY (Head)
Biddy DOYLE Wife w
Nancy KEAVEY Child
John KEAVEY Child
Mary KEAVEY Child
Pat KEAVEY Child
James KEAVEY Brother "Brother James Keavey"
Ellen KEAVEY Sister "Sister Ellen Keavey her children 3"
Mary KEAVEY Neice
Tom KEAVEY Nephew
Norry KEAVEY Neice
this is the start i hope you were looking for . you could also try the parish office of kilmurry ibrickane for help . email :office@kibparish.ie.
best of luck ,palea.
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hello again.
might be the hurley you are looking for
District Electoral Division: Annagh
Townland: Kildeema North
DED Number: 51/4
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Hi Everyone
Re Mary Cavey wife of James Hurley is also recorded as Ann or Nancy Cavey. However it is the same person and have been able prove this through records. There are many different spellings of Cavey, Kevy, Kery, Kearney, etc Both Mary Cavey and and James Hurley were born in the Milltown Malbay area of County Clare, Ireland.
I have recorded James Hurley as born in the Milltown Malbay, County Clare, Ireland area because he moved a few times and I cannot find his birth details. James and Mary were living in Emly/Emlagh, Milltown Malbay, County Clare, Ireland when their daughter Anne was baptised.
Re the death of Laurence Hurley I have yet to prove his death. There is a death of a Pierce Laurence Hurley who died in 1921 in Sydney, however as he was always know as Laurence Hurley cannot see why he would change his name. I have a Laurence Hurley leaving Sydney in 1901 for Freemantle however there is not enough information to know if this is my Laurence Hurley. There are 2 deaths of Hurley (no other information) who died in 1919 and the other one in 1920 WA.
James Hurley died between 1843-1855 in the Parish of Kilfarboy, Kildeema South, Barony of Iibricken,, County Clare, Ireland. If you look up a map of Milltown Malbay you find Kildeema and Kildeema South.
Now can anyone help me please!
I am looking for Margaret Hurley, born about 1834, age 23, arrived in Geelong, Australia, in 1857 on the ship Çarleton". Have not been able to find any information on her.
Also her brother George Hurley, born about 1843 who came out on the same ship at the age of 14.
I am also trying to find the death of Maria Hurley who married George Armstrong.
Hope this information will prove helpful and also that maybe someone can help me.
Many thanks.
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District Electoral Division: Annagh
Townland: Kildeema North
DED Number: 51/4
Surname Christian Name Rel to H of F Religion Education Age Sex Occupation Marriage Where born Irish Language
Downes Bridget Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 60 Female
Widow Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes James Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 27 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare
Downes Laurence Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 24 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare
Downes Sarah Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 15 Female
Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley Laurence Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 32 Male Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Margaret Wife Roman Catholic Read-Write 25 Female
Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Margaret Mother Roman Catholic Read-Write 60 Female
Widow Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Daniel Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 60 Male Farmer Widower Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Bridget Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 22 Female Housekeeper Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Patrick Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 20 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Reynolds May Visitor Roman Catholic Read-Write 8 Female Scholar Not Married Co. Clare
Downes Anthony Head of Family Roman Catholic Cannot Read 58 Male Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Bridget Wife Roman Catholic Read-Write 54 Female
Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Michael Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 21 Male
Not Married Co. Clare
Downes Annie Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 16 Female
Not Married Co. Clare
Downes Kate Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 14 Female
Not Married Co. Clare
Fox Michael Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 57 Male Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Fox Mary Wife Roman Catholic Read 48 Female
Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Fox Thomas Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 27 Male Labourer Not Married Co. Clare English
Fox Martin Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 22 Male Labourer Not Married Co. Clare English
Fox Bridget Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 20 Female
Not Married Co. Clare English
Fox John Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 11 Male Scholar Not Married Co. Clare English
Fox Margaret Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 10 Female Scholar Not Married Co. Clare English
Fox Anne Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 8 Female Scholar Not Married Co. Clare English
Downes John Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 67 Male Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Lucy Wife Roman Catholic Read-Write 54 Female
Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Corney Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 23 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Thomas Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 19 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Margaret Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 26 Female
Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Mary Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 60 Female Farmer Widow Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Michael Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 22 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes James Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 20 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Pat Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 18 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Anthony Head of Family Roman Catholic Cannot Read 64 Male Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Mary Wife Roman Catholic Read-Write 50 Female
Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Downes Joseph A. Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 22 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Owen Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 77 Male Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Ellen Wife Roman Catholic Read-Write 63 Female Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley John Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 25 Male Farmer Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Ellen Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 23 Female Farmer Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Norah Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 21 Female Farmer Not Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Egan Michael Grandson Roman Catholic Cannot Read 4 Male Scholar Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley James Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 52 Male Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Catherine Wife Roman Catholic Read-Write 48 Female
Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Honor Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 19 Female
Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley Margaret Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 15 Female
Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley Kate Daughter Roman Catholic Read-Write 10 Female Scholar Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley Bridget Daughter Roman Catholic Read 6 Female Scholar Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley Patrick Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 24 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley John Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 18 Male Farmer's Son Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley James Son Roman Catholic Read-Write 12 Male Scholar Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley John Head of Family Roman Catholic Read-Write 43 Male Farmer Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Bridget Wife Roman Catholic Read-Write 40 Female
Married Co. Clare Irish-English
Hurley Mary Daughter Roman Catholic Cannot Read 4 Female
Not Married Co. Clare
Hurley Michael Son Roman Catholic Cannot Read 3 Male
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For some reason you seem to have just cut & pasted a large portion of an Irish census? Much better to post links to the information so that others can look at the originals rather than trying to make sense of such a long post all run together.
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do you have any date of birth for laurence hurley because i have one in the parish of kilmurry ib, Hurley Lawrence, son of Thomas hurley and Bridget Kelly 11.7.1863. Patt Mulvihil & Bridget Lennane Mountscot.
28.1.1842 John Luony Derrymore, Cloony Bridget Hurley Mountscot James Hurley. Daniel Luony. Bridget Dogherty. marriage record kilmurry ib. Is this the same James Hurley ? looking at this i think bridget and thomas are brother and sister.
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I do not have any of the people you have mentioned in my tree.