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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: paulmh on Monday 19 July 04 19:06 BST (UK)
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Hi, i'm new to this site and am really despirate to find information about my ancestors,I've got at this point stuck and need a new lead to get me back on track.
Below is a brief summary of what information I have collected about my family, if anyone has any Census CD's from Nottinghamshire 1841, 51, 61, 71 or 1901 or Yorkshire 1891, 1901 could they please look for me, I would be ever so greatful:
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I’ll start with William Townrow, born in 1833 in Babworth, Nottingham and married a Maria Taylor (born 1838, Ranby, Nottingham) believed to be in 1859 but not 100% sure; William worked as a General Labourer.
Between them they had 9 children:
1. John Henry – b. 26 Nov 1860 (East Retford) – d. 19 Nov 1943 (Sheffield) – Married Rebecca carter (b. 1871 Suffolk – d. Jan 1932 Sheffield)
2. George – b. 1863 (Ranby) – d. unknown
3. Sarah – b. 1867 (Ranby) - d. unknown
4. Charles – b. 1869 (Ranby) – d. 3 Mar 1954 (Sheffield)
5. Francis – b. 1871 (Ranby) – d. 15 Jan 1954 (Sheffield) – Married a Annie Lizzie Jackson and ad three children (Franky, Annice and Arthur) – Annice went onto Marry a Jesse Briggs
6. Arthur – b. 1874 (Ranby) – d. unknown – Had a daughter called Flossy, Wife unknown.
7. Willie – b. 1876 (Ranby) – d. unknown
8. Alfred – b. 1879 (Ranby) - d. unknown – Alfred was a cripple from childhood and a cobbler by trade. – We believe Alfred never married.
9. Clara – b. 1884 (unknown) – d. unknown
There is a possibility that there could be one or two more but is doubtful.
My great grandfather, John Henry Townrow was born in East Retford, Nottingham, England on 26 November 1860.
As a chosen career he joined the Army though the year is not known yet, I know he was posted to India and later Ireland. Whilst in India he met his future wife, Rebecca Carter who was born in Suffolk, England in the beginning quarter of either 1870 or 1871. Why she was in India we do not know but know they got married in that part of the World and spent at least ten years their.
Dates are not known of when posted to these places but I do know he must have gone to the Emerald Isle before 1903 as he had six (all girls) children born their:
1. Doris Edith Muriel – Born 3 Nov 1903 (Curragh Camp)
2. Sylvia Winifred May – 13 Dec 1904
3. Eva Constance Margaret (my grandmother) – 14 June 1907 – d. 16 May 1992 (Sheffield)
4. Phyllis Irene – b. 10 Aug 1909 (Dublin) – d.27 Apr 1953
5. Gladys – date unknown but died just a few months old. (Dublin)
6. Ruby Olive – 4 March 1913 (Dublin)
I do know that he must have moved around a bit during their stay in Ireland as he was in curragh Camp for which Doris was born, this is fact as there is a family story about her running around the court yard with a potty on her head.
One story I know is true but would like to know why. In Athlone John and Rebecca had a maid, who helped them with their chaos, and the story goes that the family sent the maid to register the birth of my grandmother.
Rebecca wished that she be called Ivy Constance Margaret Townrow, but the persons at the register office said that Ivy would not be allowed and that Eva was the nearest match, this was accepted and in disgust Rebecca claimed that she would always be known as Ivy. I was wondering why wouldn’t they accept Ivy as a name?
In around 1916 or 1917 they moved to Sheffield and lived at 17 or 18 Harleston Street, where they had family living. They came across by boat from Dublin to Liverpool and it was suggested that boat sunk a week after travelling.
John Henry Townrow died on 19 November 1943 and is buried in Burngreave Cemetery. His wife, Rebecca is also buried in same grave though she died years earlier in January 1932.
THE END
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Hi there,
and welcome to RootsChat. ;D
Wow, what a lot of information to digest. The best way for you to proceed is to get some lookup requests posted in the Requests board:
http://www.rootschat.co.uk/forum/index.php?board=48.0
Click the link, read the instructions and post a couple of requests.
On RootsChat it is better to ask a more specific question, you are much more likely to get a reply.
Good Luck,
Kazza.
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Thank you.
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The following protestations may eventually help you.
Bassetlaw Hundred Parish of Ollerton Protestation taken 6th March 1641
Townerowe, Robert Overseer
Townerowe Thomas
Broxtowe Hundred Parish of Lenton
Townrow, Nicholas
Townrow, Erasmus
But also note that the Vicar of Lenton was one Ollerenshawe, Robert and this note has been entered against his entry - "On 13th July, 1629 an indictment was made against Robert Ollerenshawe, of Lenton, clerk, for being a "night walker", and he was indicted also in 1635 for occupying a temperal farm."
Broxtowe Hundred Parish of Linby
Townrow, John
Broxtowe Hundred Parish of Nottingham Town
Townerowe, John
Rushcliffe Hundred Parish of Barton-in-Fabis
Townrowe, William
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Hi
You can check the Irish 1911 census free here and find the family
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/
claire
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Thank you, its amazing that people still wanted to help after all this time, thank you so much. My father has got a copy of the census I think; he had to write off to Ireland to get them but to see it online is fantastic. The origional census lists John Henry, my gt grandfather as a farrier which is correct, he was in the Army though would have retired by that point.
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Townrow family. I was very interested as we have this Townrow in our family tree. William the Father of John Henry was the son of Henry and Hannah. Henry being the son of John and Hannah. Henry's Brother William 1811 was the ancestor of my Husband.
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Paulmh- by now you might have lots more information on the family in Ireland but just in case...
Dates are not known of when posted to these places but I do know he must have gone to the Emerald Isle before 1903 as he had six (all girls) children born their:
1. Doris Edith Muriel – Born 3 Nov 1903 (Curragh Camp)
2. Sylvia Winifred May – 13 Dec 1904
3. Eva Constance Margaret (my grandmother) – 14 June 1907 – d. 16 May 1992 (Sheffield)
4. Phyllis Irene – b. 10 Aug 1909 (Dublin) – d.27 Apr 1953
5. Gladys – date unknown but died just a few months old. (Dublin)
6. Ruby Olive – 4 March 1913 (Dublin)
I do know that he must have moved around a bit during their stay in Ireland as he was in curragh Camp for which Doris was born, this is fact as there is a family story about her running around the court yard with a potty on her head.
One story I know is true but would like to know why. In Athlone John and Rebecca had a maid, who helped them with their chaos, and the story goes that the family sent the maid to register the birth of my grandmother.
Rebecca wished that she be called Ivy Constance Margaret Townrow, but the persons at the register office said that Ivy would not be allowed and that Eva was the nearest match, this was accepted and in disgust Rebecca claimed that she would always be known as Ivy. I was wondering why wouldn’t they accept Ivy as a name?
Sylvia Winefred May born 1904 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FBLM-4NR
Gladys Lillian born 9 May 1911 & died 1911-
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/e4ff2e0364116
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FRJN-WWL
The story about Ivy/Eva's birth registration doesn't make sense as there were other girls called Ivy registered there before and after 1907. Were the family Catholic? if so, perhaps mixed up with story about priest saying child couldn't be called Ivy?
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I wondered if the Irish accent made Ivy sound like Evie? Which they'd advise was a nickname for Eva which was a proper name?
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I wondered if the Irish accent made Ivy sound like Evie? Which they'd advise was a nickname for Eva which was a proper name?
Probably unlikely because the registration took place in Ireland.
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Paul, a few dates for you, you may of course already have them as the OP was a while ago.
Baptism Carlton in Lindrick
31-3- 1833 William son of Francis & Catherine Townrow abode Carlton father a miller.
Marriage Babworth
17-1-1860 William Townrow & Maria Taylor
Marriage Marnham, St Wilfrid
26-4-1827 Francis Townrow & Catherine Wilkinson.
There are 8 baptisms for children with parents names William & Maria Townrow
Ordsall, All Hallows
16-12-1860 John Henry abode Thrumpton F Engine fireman
Babworth, All Saints
28-11-1875 Willie abode Ranby father Engine Tenter
5-1-1865 Elizabeth abode Ranby F a miller
Newark St Mary Magdalene
28-11-1875 Mary Ann abode Mill Gate.F labourer
Newark, St Leonard
20-9-1876 William abode 15, Wards Row father a Maltster
29-12-1879 George Arthur abode Wards Row F labourer
Balderton, St Giles
26-2-1883 Alfred Henry abode Balderton F maltster
20-10-1884 Annie Elizabeth abode Balderton F labourer.
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Now all of the above could be the wrong line as there are 2 William Townrows on the 1841 census
One , as above, parents Francis ( Miller) & Catherine.
HO107/ 849/10/27 p 15 Carlton in Lindrick Nottinghamshire;
The other parents Henry ( Ag Lab) & Hannah.
HO107/ 849/1/9 p13 Babworth, Nottinghamshire
Both William's are 8 years old.
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Thank you all for your help, I have only just seen the replies.
My father still has possession of the family tree, I shall have to go visit this weekend and go through this information and see what needs updating.
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I think the William Townrow born 1833 Carlton son of Francis and Catherine went to Australia and died in Victoria in 1893. I have 8 children for Francis and Catherine.
The other William born 1833 Ranby was the son of Henry and Hannah and married Maria Taylor and died 1911 East retford. I have 9 children for Henry and Hannah.
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William Townrow born 1811 who married Maria Goodacre 18 August 1837 Lincs are our ancestors but they are all related.
Mary
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William Townrow 1811 and Maria had a son William 1845 his wife was also Maria although I have not found their marriage. They had Mary A 1875, William 1876, George A 1879, Alfred H 1883, Annie E 1883 and Joseph Burnell 1886 all at Newark was Maria's maiden name Burnell.
Mary
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William Townrow born 1811 who married Maria Goodacre 18 August 1837 Lincs are our ancestors but they are all related.
Mary
I'm not sure if my father knows about this, when I see him next I shall quiz him on it.
I did send you a PM Jintana with my email address attached.
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From our research we have found Townrows from London and Norfolk/Suffolk area, though we've never found any links to them. Have you been able to find a connection to this branch of Townrows?
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I can't see your e-mail address anywhere and I tried to send mine but they deleted it.
Jintana
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Have you looked in your private mail box Jintana?
Black tool bar above ,just below the poppy picture, check out My Messages.
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Have you looked in your private mail box Jintana?
Black tool bar above ,just below the poppy picture, check out My Messages.
Yes, it was a private message