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Title: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: mazzie74 on Thursday 26 February 15 07:44 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am writing a family tree to show to family members.

When I have parents I have it written as:

John Smith
b.1859 Newcastle
d.1903 Newcastle
Coal Miner
m.1881 Newcastle
Ann Jones
b.1862 Newcastle
d.1918 Newcastle

What I would like to ask is (particularly for more modern ancestors), if there is a child born to unmarried parents, what is the best way to show both parents - obviously I can't write a marriage year or place?

Thanks

Darin.
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: KGarrad on Thursday 26 February 15 08:06 GMT (UK)
You need to replace the "m" for married with something else?

"c" for cohabited? "r" for relationship with?
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: Ruskie on Thursday 26 February 15 08:57 GMT (UK)
Just omit the 'm' and date, or write 'unmarried', or 'did not marry', or 'no marriage found' ...
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: pinefamily on Thursday 26 February 15 09:02 GMT (UK)
"P" for partner or partnered works too.
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: silaswall on Thursday 26 February 15 09:05 GMT (UK)
I normally do the same as Ruskie.

Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: lizdb on Thursday 26 February 15 10:25 GMT (UK)
I understood that the way to denote an illegitimate child was to put a short horizontal line across the line from the parent to the child.
That's what I do in my handwritten tree for any child born of a parent who isn't married.
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: Koromo on Thursday 26 February 15 10:40 GMT (UK)

I've always used the "not equal to" sign:

John SMITH  ≠  Mary JONES


K.
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: majm on Thursday 26 February 15 11:00 GMT (UK)

I've always used the "not equal to" sign:

John SMITH  ≠  Mary JONES


K.

Yes,  I would read that as John SMITH is not married to Mary JONES (and their children are on the generational line below).  BUT as far as I am aware, there's NO well recognised ISO standard for family history (tree charts, or otherwise), so if you simply put your own "key" list of your chosen symbols on your document or at the introduction/cover sheet, I would hope anyone reading it would appreciate your hand prepared document.  That is definitely a labour of love task you have set yourself.     

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: ThrelfallYorky on Thursday 26 February 15 17:59 GMT (UK)
Oh .. I use "+" meaning Adam + Eve, with no formal marriage!
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: Regorian on Thursday 26 February 15 18:09 GMT (UK)
I have one and I have input 'and' instead of 'married'. Family history is going to become a nightmare in the future.   
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: mazzie74 on Thursday 26 February 15 18:16 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thanks for your suggestions

Regards

Darin.
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: Guy Etchells on Thursday 26 February 15 18:34 GMT (UK)

Yes,  I would read that as John SMITH is not married to Mary JONES (and their children are on the generational line below).  BUT as far as I am aware, there's NO well recognised ISO standard for family history (tree charts, or otherwise), so if you simply put your own "key" list of your chosen symbols on your document or at the introduction/cover sheet, I would hope anyone reading it would appreciate your hand prepared document.  That is definitely a labour of love task you have set yourself.     

Cheers,  JM

The not equal to sign ≠ has been used since at least the late 19th early 20th century in genealogy.
In addition a dashed line is used to connect the parents to their issue.

It is what I have used for the last 50 or so years also. ;)

Cheers
Guy
Title: Re: How to show unmarried parents on a handwritten tree
Post by: bugbear on Thursday 26 February 15 20:57 GMT (UK)

I've always used the "not equal to" sign:

John SMITH  ≠  Mary JONES


K.

Yes,  I would read that as John SMITH is not married to Mary JONES (and their children are on the generational line below).  BUT as far as I am aware, there's NO well recognised ISO standard for family history (tree charts, or otherwise), so if you simply put your own "key" list of your chosen symbols on your document or at the introduction/cover sheet, I would hope anyone reading it would appreciate your hand prepared document.  That is definitely a labour of love task you have set yourself.     

Cheers,  JM

Since (for me at least) the research is (and always will be) ongoing, I would never put
lots of labour into a graphic representation.

Drawing fancy diagrams of trees is what computers are for.

 BugBear