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Does anyone have any information on the birth/baptism and parents of William Gowlett Baynes born about 1875?
There are some 18 family trees on Ancestry , only 2 have named his parents, but they are not in agreement.
I have found details of his marriage, his wife, the wonderfully named Enough, and his children and a fair bit about his life. He was a reasonably important citizen of Essex, but there doesn't seem to be anything definite on his parents etc.
Eric
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There is a William Gowlett Baynes dying in 1847 in Stepney - worth putting on the back burner in case he turns out to be linked!
Cant see a birth reg for your guy though.
Who does he name as his father on his marriage? When/where does he marry?
What censuses have you found him in? Where does he say he was born?
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Does anyone have any information on the birth/baptism and parents of William Gowlett Baynes born about 1875?
Eric
Is this date right - there is information from Google that gives the date as October 2, 1785?
http://www.geni.com/people/William-Baynes/6000000009425756182
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It must be 1785
He is on 1841 with wife Enough and children, age 55. In Stepney so the death I found is his!!!!!
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This is interesting - did he take his wife's name?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NYTZ-G3G
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Thanks for the replies.
Sorry!!!!!! the birth date should have been 1785. I must have got my fingers in a twist!!!!!!
Yes he did die in 1847 in Stepney, so he is only on the 1841 census. His wife also died in 1847.
His wife's maiden name was Enough Nottage, daughter of Thomas and Maria Nottage.
Family Search, in addition to the address on the reply also has children with the same Christian names and with the Baynes surname!!!!!!
He was William Gowlett Baynes and at one time was a Bailiff for Essex.
thanks again
Eric
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Family Search, in addition to the address on the reply also has children with the same Christian names and with the Baynes surname!!!!!!
Looks as if FamilySearch have made a right mess of it doesn't it?
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There is an entry for a William Gowlett Baynes in St. Laurence Church, Ridgewell, Essex Parish Register - Baptisms 1785. Birth is stated as 10 February, 1785 and baptism is 26 June, 1785. He is the son of George and Hannah Baynes. Both parents died in Goldhanger, Essex. There are also other
children baptised in the register.
Best wishes
Margaret
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Hello Margaret
That's great, thank you.
William Gowlett Baynes's first child was baptised William Rayner Baynes, and I guessed that the Rayner bit was probably the mother's maiden name. I had found a marriage between George Baynes and Hannah Rayner in Halstead at the right time, but couldn't find any births or baptisms
I see the Ridgewell registers are available on line for a small fee, so I can follow that up if I need to.
Do you have any connection to the Baynes family?
Many thanks again
Eric
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Hi Eric,
Thank you for your reply.
There are at least 2 links between the Bird and Baynes family but one, in particular, needs more confirmation. The marriages that I mention are extracted from the Ridgewell Parish Register. (1) A George Hills (son of a Mary Bird) married an Elizabeth Baynes with 2 Birds as witnesses in 1818 (2) a Sophia Baynes (I have yet to find her on any Family Tree) married a Thomas Bird in 1815. She died in 1818 aged 27 so must have been born about 1791. (3) A Mary Ann Baynes married a Thomas Perry in 1816 with a George Baynes as witness. (4) An Elizabeth Bird (sister of Mary Bird) married a John Baker in 1806 with witnesses being George Bird and William Gowlett Baynes (5) A Daniel Hills (Father of George Hills) married a Mary Bird in 1789 with a George Baynes was a witness.
The Bird family came from Ridgewell Hall, Ridgewell in Essex. I am hoping that someone may be able to give me some information on Sophia Baynes.
Best wishes
Margaret
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Hi Margaret
Thanks for the reply. Just a quick one!!
You probably have seen this and discounted it, but there is a Sophia Baynes born C.1789 mentioned on Ancestry. She was the daughter of Wardell Baynes and his wife Margaret nee Benyon. The parents were Quakers.
Eric
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Hi Eric,
Thank you for your speedy reply.
Firstly, are you connected to the Wardell Baynes family? I have come across some info on this family. I have looked into this Sophia Baynes (daughter of Wardell) and I can't seem to fit her into my Bird Tree (I am aware that there is a Sophia Baynes on our Tree on Ancestery but I am unsure about it being the right one)
Reason: A Sophia Baynes from Swainsthorpe married a John Mayes in 1811. Wardell Baynes lived in Swainsthorpe. Sophia Mayes was having children the same time as Sophia Bird (nee Baynes) Any comments please !!!!!
Can you tell me about the children you have for Hannah and George Baynes (i.e. births and deaths)?
Best wishes
Margaret
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Hi Margaret
None of the Baynes families are in my direct family --- I'm out on a branch for my daughter in law.
Her Baynes family are mainly around Henham in Essex.
I don't have any children for George Baynes and Hannah Rayner, except for William Gowlett Baynes.
and at present I wasn't planning on wandering from the direct line.
I can only find a marriage for a Sophia Baynes to John Mayes in 1811 in Norfolk, but I can find nothing to relate her to Wardell Baynes. I haven't found a marriage to John Bird, but not all the registers are on the internet yet. AS you said there doesn't appear to be anything on public family trees either.
Wardell Baynes and his wife were Quakers, --- is there anything in your family stories that involve Quakers. I did see that Wardell's wife Margaret and one of their daughters were baptised into the Church of England late in life --- Margaret was in her 50s.
Not much help I'm afraid
Best wishes
Eric
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Hi Eric,
Thank you for the information that you have given me.
I know that there were several Birds baptised in the Independent Chapel in Ridgewell. Wardell Baynes's mother (Margaret) mentions Wardell in her Will (1810). At that time Wardell was living in Swainsthorpe, Nr. Norwich.
Best wishes
Margaret