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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Gloucestershire => England => Gloucestershire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: lorlor53 on Thursday 19 February 15 09:05 GMT (UK)
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Hi, I wonder if someone could help, my John Symonds married a Hannah he was born abt 1775 they had frederick born 1817 redmarley, Ann born 1824, Peter born in redmarley 1828, elizabeth 1834 born in newent and charlotte born 1837 in newent...The one census in 1841 says hannah was born 1801 gloucestershire, she is in the census with John and children ann,peter,elizabeth and charlotte, but the 1851 census it says she was born 1783, she is in the this census with just ann and charlotte, under being ann's mother. Both census being in newent. How can there be so much age difference with the census, not sure of her last name?
thanks in advance
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John Symonds married Hannah Haumbler 20 Jan 1817 Dymock, Gloucestershire
1841 Hannah, age 40, not born in county. In 1851 Hannah now a widow born Redmarley, Worcestershire. The age is transcribed as 68 but the image has been covered by a X. I think it could be 58 therefore born 1793.
Colin
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Just to add to the previous post - according to Gloucestershire Marriage Index, John was a widower when he married Hannah.
Witnesses to the marriage were - Thos. Barnes and Winifred Bayley.
I cannot see an earlier marriage fro John in Gloucestershire.
Sue
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Thankyou very much :)
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Hello With regard to the initial message regarding John Symonds, i've tried putting a message on here for the originator as I believe we must be related.
My name is Ken Williams and my great great great grandparents would have been John and Hannah . Symonds, Their daughter Ann Symonds is shown as being aged 17 on the 1841 census and she is my great great grandmother.
On Friday i received a copy of he marriage certificate and Ann married Henry Loveridge on the 27th November 1842 at the Parish Church Newent.. Henry Loveridge's father is not indicted on the Marriage Cert we do know that his mother was Elizabeth Loveridge born Red Marley. Henry Loveridge was Christened at Newent on March 7th 1818. Henry and Hannah had three children Rosetta, William and Mary Ann. William was born circa 1845 and he was my great grandfather. We have twi enigmas
1) Can noit find a marriage for Henry's mother Elizabeth Loveridge born 1772 we think he might have been illigitimate
2) We have searched for a death for Henry but can not locate one the 1851 census shows Elizabeth as being indexed a widow and living withn her daughter in law.
Can anyone enlighten us onour two enigmas and perhaps help us to contact the person who initially enquired about John Symonds.
Very best
Ken Williams
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Henry Loveridge was illegitimate bap. son of Elizabeth Loveridge 7 March 1818 Newent. (Privately)
Elizabeth describing herself as a widow on the census draw your own conclusions.
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GRO Index
Rosetta Loveridge reg 1843 Newent, Sept quarter, vol 11 page 352 mother's maiden name Lymond - should be Symond - correction sent.
Male Loveridge reg 1845.Newent, September quarter vol 11 page 354 mother's maiden name Symond (this would be William)
Mary Ann Loveridge I cannot find a registration for.
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The one in 1846 had mother's maiden name Locke so that is eliminated.
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1851 Census
Elizabeth Loveridge was born Tibberton Gloucestershire
age is hard to determine as a black cross is through it, transcribed as mother in law age 18 ??
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Hannah Ambler bap 25 May 1794 at Red Marley daughter of John and Sarah Ambler.
Ref: ancestry
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Hello With regard to the initial message regarding John Symonds, i've tried putting a message on here for the originator as I believe we must be related.
Ken Williams
lorlor53 has not signed into Roots Chat since November 2020.
Colin
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Hi Ken, my mum's 2 x Great Grandmother was Elizabeth Symonds, who we have a lovely photo of so sister of Ann. She married Henry John Jones a barge man and had originally lived in Newent but then they moved to Gloucester. They had my mums great grandmother Henrietta jones who married a Samuel Jones and my mums Gran, Annie Elizabeth Jones. They were publicans. Have taken the Amblers back and had DNA matches to them. John Symonds on the other hand, there are so many false trails. Will try and find the info on them. Laura
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Hi Laura,
Many thanks for your swift response, my great great great grandparents were John and Hannah Symonds and my great great grandmother was Ann (Symonds) Loveridge. i have had my DNA done and it is shown on Ancestry and My Heritage sites so i am assuming that we are both connected by DNA and obviously related. I have recently received Ann's marriage cert which shows a marriage to Henry Loveridge and am more than willing to forward a copy for your files. Pderhaps we could exchange emails.
Anne's children were Rosetta Loveridge, William Loveridge my great grandfather and Mary Ann Loveridge. We can not find a death for Henry Loveridge but Ann is on the 1851 census and indexed as a Widow. For a number of years we have been trying to find out who Henry's father was but to no avail. The 1851 census shows Henry's mother Elizabeth to be living with nher daughter in Law and she is also indexed as being a widow.. On the marriage cert it shows that Frederick Symonds and also Caroline Symonds were witness to the marriage but i have not been able to ascertain how they were related to Ann.
Would love a photo of Elizabeth as that would give me some idea of what my great great great grandmother would have looked like.
I live in Bristol but was born in South Wales. thank you once again for contacting me, we have very little on Anne and her husband Henry.
Very best
Ken
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Re: Witnesses at the marriage of Ann Symonds to Henry Loveridge
Frederick could be Ann's older brother (1817) and his wife he married Caroline Pembers 5 December 1842 at Newent.
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Frederick Symonds and Caroline Pembers are both servants in the house of Margaret Wood 1841
address Ford House, Newent
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Hi Laura.
Thank you for the info regarding 1841 will look that up.
Very best
Ken