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Title: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: Tracy1303 on Tuesday 17 February 15 15:31 GMT (UK)
Hello
I have found the marriage of Mary Emily Thomas in Farnborough on 12th Oct 1910 to Charles Biggin.  Her father is given as Francis Thomas, Army Pensioner.  I also have her death in Sep Q 1971. This gives her birth date as 26 March 1882.  Knowing that she was born in India I was able to find her birth (date matches death info exactly) in Trimulgherry India on 26 March 1882, but parents are Henry and Emma Thomas. Henry is a Sergeant in the RHA.

 I found the marriage of a Henry Thomas and Emma Baldock in 1881 in Sailkot (then Pakistan).  The details continue to fit everywhere except for the father's name. Francis v Henry.  I have them on the 1901 census and father is Francis. Apparently the house they retired to was named Sialkot, further confirming this as the right couple.

I must be missing something.  I know people changed/used different names but I cannot find Henry outside of the birth and marriage details.

A fresh pair of eyes may see what I am now blinded to.
Thanks.
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Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 17 February 15 15:37 GMT (UK)
Maybe he was Henry Francis or Francis Henry at birth?  Have you got him before marriage at all or a birthplace for him?
Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 17 February 15 15:41 GMT (UK)
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

1901 shows Francis b Charlinch Somerset 1848

Going back to the 1851 her father is Francis aged 4 b Charlinch Somerset - parents James & Mary

Probably just a wrong entry on the birth cert
Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: Tracy1303 on Tuesday 17 February 15 15:42 GMT (UK)
I have got the person I believe to be him on earlier census, always as Francis.  He was born in Charlinch in Somerset  in about 1847.  No Francis Henry born around then but there is one Henry and one Francis!

Odd that both her birth and his marriage used Henry.
Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: Tracy1303 on Tuesday 17 February 15 15:43 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the welcome.  I was here before, but it's been a while and I couldn't remember my log in so had to re-register!!
Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 17 February 15 15:48 GMT (UK)
Don't know why it would be so but does he only use Henry for when he is abroad ie for his military career :-\

Francis seems to be the norm as a boy and when he comes back to England. 
Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 17 February 15 15:54 GMT (UK)
This birth covers Charlinch

Dec 1846 Bridgwater
Francis Thomas

The Henry one is a year earlier Dec 1845.

Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: avm228 on Tuesday 17 February 15 16:16 GMT (UK)
Francis THOMAS was baptised at St Mary, Charlinch on 15 Nov 1846.

Parents: James (labourer) and Mary, of Charlinch.

From FreeREG

Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: cath151 on Tuesday 17 February 15 16:22 GMT (UK)
Hi
There are British army service records on FindMyPast for a Henry Thomas born 1849 Cannington, Somerset.
It gives his marriage to Emma Baldick and daughter Mary Emily Thomas born 1882.
Cathy
Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: Tracy1303 on Tuesday 17 February 15 16:25 GMT (UK)
Oh thank you.  Going over to have a look.  :)
Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: Tracy1303 on Tuesday 17 February 15 16:46 GMT (UK)
Loads of info there - thank you.  But this still doesn't explain her marriage record showing her father as Francis, army pensioner and her address as 'Sialkote', the house they named after the place they got married (Henry and Emma that is).
Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: jann on Wednesday 18 February 15 19:42 GMT (UK)
Have you tried looking for a will left by Francis/Henry?  That would give you a third legal document containing his first name.  And might include an AKA name.



Jann



Title: Re: Mary Emily Thomas - What am I missing ....?
Post by: TracyL on Thursday 19 February 15 09:33 GMT (UK)
Thanks Jann.  I do have the probate record - he is Francis.  No mention of any other name.