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Title: cake's of dorset
Post by: maythree on Sunday 15 February 15 22:32 GMT (UK)
turners puddle census 1851 lookup please, for mary ann cake, b 1824, daughter martha priscilla cake, b 1842. anybody else in household?
any information of a jane alner cake b1847-d1849. who were her parents?
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 February 15 22:41 GMT (UK)
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turners puddle census 1851 lookup please, for mary ann cake, b 1824, daughter martha priscilla cake, b 1842. anybody else in household?

The only Martha Cake b Turners Puddle was b 1843 and was the daughter of Richard & Frances

There is a Martha Cake b 1845 Tolpuddle - parents Job and Ann

Neither entry has a middle name
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 15 February 15 22:43 GMT (UK)
This might be Pricilla down as orphan

1851

Pricilla Cake 9 born Tonerspuddle Dorset

Rest of household

Sarah Leyman 33
John " 1 month
Jane " 1 month
Henry Cake 5 orphan born Tonerspuddle Dorset
James Almer 9
Elizabeth " 7
George " 5


Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 15 February 15 22:44 GMT (UK)
From Family Search

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NDGM-956

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NDGM-956
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: Milliepede on Sunday 15 February 15 22:45 GMT (UK)
In 1861 Priscilla 19 is down as granddaughter to Richard and Francis Cake
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 16 February 15 16:35 GMT (UK)
This might be Pricilla down as orphan

1851

Pricilla Cake 9 born Tonerspuddle Dorset

Rest of household

Sarah Leyman 33
John " 1 month
Jane " 1 month
Henry Cake 5 orphan born Tonerspuddle Dorset
James Almer 9
Elizabeth " 7
George " 5

The address for this group and all the others on the same page is workhouse in the parish of Lady St Mary, Wareham. The enumerator seems to have used a standard census form and not the one designed for an institution.
Most of the adults have been recorded as "Head". Sarah's surname looks a bit more like Seymour and I think the surname of James, Elizabeth and George in Alner not Almer,
Sarah Seymour was born in Swanage and her two children in parish of Lady St Mary, Priscilla, Henry and the Alner children are all from Tonerspuddle (sic). I suspect there is no connection between the Seymours and the rest, they just got recorded together on the form.
But it may give a link between Alners and Cakes. All are orphans
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: Richard Knott on Monday 16 February 15 17:24 GMT (UK)
Henry Cake was baptised in Wareham (15 May 1846), son of Mary Ann Cake, but his abode was the workhouse in 'Tonnerspuddle'.

A Mary Ann Cake, age 22, was buried in the Wareham workhouse on 30 Dec 1848.

Mary Ann appears to have had a daughter, Jane in Oct 1845, baptised in Tolpuddle, although she may be the Jane Cake buried in Wareham (the enry after Mary Ann's burial) in Apr 1849, although the age (1) is wrong.

Richard
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 16 February 15 17:55 GMT (UK)
In 1861 Priscilla 19 is down as granddaughter to Richard and Francis Cake

There are two Mary Ann Cakes baptised in Turners Puddle within a couple of years of each other.
The 1824 one was daughter of Richard and Frances so she fits with being Pricilla's mother. The other was in 1826 daughter of Thomas and Mary.
FindMyPast has the 30 Dec 1848 burial at Turner's Puddle, maybe it was actually at TP but her residence before death was the workhouse.
Although the age doesn't quite match with the Mary Ann (Pricilla's mother) better match for other Mary Ann. If she died in the workhouse, they may not have known her age accurately. There is a Mary Ann Cake who marries a William Horlock in Dorchester RD in 1855. Maybe she's the 1826 one.
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: allibaker on Thursday 26 February 15 11:16 GMT (UK)
Don't know if this one ties in but due to the middle name thought it worth mentioning
Robert Alner Cake aged 27 years buried 27 th august 1848 holy trinity turners puddle
regards
alli
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: allibaker on Thursday 26 February 15 11:23 GMT (UK)
to confirm
Mary Ann Cake aged 22 years buried at Holy Trinity Turners Puddle on 30th December 1848
Jane Alner Cake aged 1 yr buried at Holy Trinity Turners Puddle on 15th April 1849
the other Mary Ann Cake was 8 years old buried also at Turners Puddle on 8th March 1818
regards
alli
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 February 15 12:28 GMT (UK)
Don't know if this one ties in but due to the middle name thought it worth mentioning
Robert Alner Cake aged 27 years buried 27 th august 1848 holy trinity turners puddle
regards
alli

Ancestry has banns for Robert Alner Cake read in Bere Regis on 3 Sundays in July 1842 (not 1841 as transcribed - checked image in Banns book, sloppy clerk has not filled in year on page header but if you go back a couple of pages you can see it should be 1842). The bride is Anna Maria Clarke, both otp. Ancestry has marriage on 18 Sep 1842, Robert has no father listed. Witnesses are James Ballam and William Lane. Both bride and groom made their mark.
Robert is of full age Anna maria is a minor.

Added:
The only Robert Cake I can find in 1841 is in London - Davies mews in same household as the Taylor family. Robert is not born in county (Middx), but all the Talyors were so I suspect he's a lodger. No occupation listed, but most of the heads of household in the other mews are servants. So maybe a servant for the town house in front.
No sign of him on later censuses so he would fit with the Robert who died in 1848

More added:
Just found death reg for a Robert Cake Q2 1848 St Georges hanover Sq which fits better with the Robert in Davies mews.
Maybe have to look again at 1841 census with a few different spellings

Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 February 15 13:33 GMT (UK)
Robert Alner Cake and Anna Maria baptised a daughter Elizabeth on 4th May 1845 at Bere Regis. Their residence was Bere Regis he was a labourer.
Robert Cake (no middle name recorded) was baptised in Turners puddle on 20th May 1821 mother Jane Cake single woman.
Looking at burial record for Robert, his residence prior to death was Wareham Union workhouse, as was Jane Alner Cake buried the following year as mentioned earlier.

Added: If they died in Wareham workhouse but were buried in Turners puddle, someone must have paid for the funerals otherwise I would have expected them to have had pauper's burials in Wareham.
Browsing the Turner's puddle burials, there do seem to be a lot of Cakes.
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 February 15 14:04 GMT (UK)
Jane Alner Cake was baptised as Jane Clarke Cake on August 20th 1848 at Turners Puddle. The register says she is the daughter of the late Robert Alner and Mary Ann Cake (not Anna Maria). The abode is Briants Puddle. So is the Mary Ann Cake who dies in Wareham workhouse just before Jane actually Robert's widow?
This may explain why her age didn't match very well that of the Mary Ann Cake at the beginning of this thread.

Added
Found baptism of Anna Maria Clark in Bere Regis on 12 Sep 1824 daughter of Samuel and Diana. This matches with father's name on marriage record and with a Ann Clark with a Diana Clark on 1841 census. Their ages would fit with being mother and daughter.
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 February 15 14:39 GMT (UK)
Some more snippets
The Henry Cake who was in the workhouse with Priscilla in 1851 could be this one
Henry Cake bapt 15 May 1846 St Mary, Wareham - mother Mary Ann Cake.
Title: Re: cake's of dorset
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 26 February 15 14:46 GMT (UK)
And to eliminate the Mary Ann Cake who married William Horlock in Dorchester reg district.
They were married at Athelhampton on July 24th 1855. She was of full age, spinster daughter of William Cake - labourer, he was a widower of full age occ groom, son of Sylvester Horlock occ shepherd. Mary Ann was from Athelhampton and he was from Piddlehinton.