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Title: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Mrs Teddy Bear on Tuesday 05 July 05 13:45 BST (UK)
I am looking for information on Andrew McLaughlin who was married to Annie Campbell and lived in Ramoan,  Ballycastle around 1890's.  They had 4 children. Andrew, Daniel, Mary and Annie.  Andrew senior worked as a butcher and the boys were apprentice butchers in the town

Annie Campbell - I now know that her father was called James, and that she had sisters Sarah, Isabella and I think Jane. Brothers James and Charlie.  I think Annie died around 1906.

Andrew remarried Mary Hill from Ballymoney in Ballymoney in 1907. Does this ring a bell with anyone?
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: audrey on Tuesday 05 July 05 13:51 BST (UK)
I am looking for information on Andrew McLaughlin who was married to Annie Campbell and lived in Ballycastle around 1890's.  They had 4 children. Andrew, Daniel, Mary and Annie.  Andrew and Daniel ( Dan) were apprentice butchers in the town

Annie Campbell had a sister Sarah and a brother Charlie. Unfortunately I don't know her parents names.

When Annie died around 1910 Andrew remarried.  I think there may have been a family connection somewhere to Bartons also in Ballycastle. Just wondered if this rings a bell with anyone.



MCLAUGHLIN, Andrew   Birth
   Gender:   Male
   Birth Date:   19 May 1868   Birthplace:   191, Ballymoney, Ant, Ire
         Recorded in:    Antrim, Ireland
         Collection:   Civil Registration
   Father:   Daniel MCLAUGHLIN
   Mother:   Margret MCMAHON


hope this helps

audrey
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: audrey on Tuesday 05 July 05 14:02 BST (UK)
best I can do for Annie


CAMPBELL, Annie   Bir   1867   Irel   Antr
Fa:   John CAMPBELL
Mo:   Lucy GRANNY
CAMPBELL, Annie   Bir   1868   Irel   Antr
Fa:   James CAMPBELL
Mo:   Sarah MCCORMICK
CAMPBELL, Annie   Bir   1869   Irel   Antr
Fa:   William CAMPBELL
Mo:   Mary Ann BARKLEYMORE
CAMPBELL, Annie Wilson   Bir   1869   Irel   Antr
Fa:   James CAMPBELL
Mo:   Eliza CRAIG


audrey
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Mrs Teddy Bear on Tuesday 05 July 05 14:16 BST (UK)
Many thanks for this information Audrey. Will pursue this information
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: audrey on Tuesday 05 July 05 14:25 BST (UK)
Many thanks for this information Audrey. Will pursue this information
two more as I think they belong to the above

MCLAUGHLIN, Andrew   Birth
   Gender:   Male
   Birth Date:   19 May 1868   Birthplace:   191, Ballymoney, Ant, Ire
         Recorded in:    Antrim, Ireland
         Collection:   Civil Registration
   Father:   Daniel MCLAUGHLIN
   Mother:   Margret MCMAHON


MCLAUGHLIN, Margaret   Birth
   Gender:   Female
   Birth Date:   21 Mar 1870   Birthplace:   Ballymoney, Ant, Ire
         Recorded in:    Antrim, Ireland
         Collection:   Civil Registration
   Father:   Daniel MCLAUGHLIN
   Mother:   Margaret MCMAHON


audrey
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: fin on Thursday 07 July 05 18:01 BST (UK)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ballycastle/
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Anthony on Thursday 07 July 05 19:30 BST (UK)
Hi.

Ballycastle 1896

John Campbell,Fish Merchant.

Hugh M'Laughlin, Butcher.?

Neal M'Laughlin Spirit Dealer.


                                                                Anthony
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Mrs Teddy Bear on Friday 08 July 05 08:48 BST (UK)
Thanks for this Anthony  - will follow this lead
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Christopher on Saturday 09 July 05 12:52 BST (UK)
It appears this family were good Christians.
Any idea which religious presuasion they persued ?
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: saz1401 on Saturday 09 July 05 23:56 BST (UK)
Hi Uncle Christopher
You seem to have an obssession with "religious persuasion" - I have yet to find a resource where knowing this information makes a difference or assists in any way.
Perhaps you can convince me differently!

saz :-*
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 10 July 05 01:30 BST (UK)
Yes my Child  ???

It is one of the first questions asked by many professional genealogists.
Now go back to sleep and do not disturb the grown ups again

Uncle Christopher   8)
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: saz1401 on Sunday 10 July 05 09:30 BST (UK)
But why do they ask it?

I havn't found that it assists me at all - in fact sometimes it confuses the situation even more because they often changed religion to suit!

By the way uncle christopher, sarcasm isn't an attractive trait!

I will go back to bed now - having got that off my chest!

Goodnight uncle chris :P
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: fin on Sunday 10 July 05 09:57 BST (UK)
My own ancestors - from Antrim - appear to have changed their religion as it suited the situation. i.e try being a Catholic and enlisting in the RUC or gaining employment in the Belfast shipyards. Even now my sister and her family in Ballycastle keep their religious beliefs to themselves. My father joined the RAF Police specifically because he was deterred from entrance to the RUC.

If you read the messages posted on the Ballycastle group site at Yahoo you will notice that Gerry specifically asks for religous information of deceased ancestors so that he can search the correct graveyard (with some successes, I might add)
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 10 July 05 12:12 BST (UK)
But why do they ask it?

I havn't found that it assists me at all - in fact sometimes it confuses the situation even more because they often changed religion to suit!

By the way uncle christopher, sarcasm isn't an attractive trait!

I will go back to bed now - having got that off my chest!

Goodnight uncle chris :P

You are good crack Saz so your comment about sarcasm is noted.
By the way would you mind  not doing that :P in future.
I did not realise until very recently that I was related to you in any manner.  8)

Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: saz1401 on Sunday 10 July 05 23:57 BST (UK)
Hi Mrs Teddy Bear
Still looking for you - just wondered if there is any possibility they were from some other area (possibly Scotland?)? I am having trouble with BIVRI discs tonight - will post again soon  saz ;D


Hi Fin
Yep - when looking for graves makes sense although if they changed religion, as some of mine did, it would be difficult to know what to reply when asked that question - but do you think there are any other times when it would be relevant?
Thanks for your reply
saz ;D


Hi Uncle Christopher
Sorry - its obviously a family trait we share!
saz :P
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: fin on Monday 11 July 05 08:40 BST (UK)
...when trying to ascertain in which particular religious establishment your ancestors were christened/married/buried (hatched, matched or dispatched)  If you know the marriage venue you stand a better chance of discovering where subsequent events related to that couple occured (births/deaths)

We share this problem, great Uncle Samuel decided to retain the Cushnaghan name when he married in a civil ceremony in Edinburgh: all his peers, that I have so far traced, married in RC Churches under the name CASSIDY. ???  Most of the family moved to Renfrewshire, Scotland, but my father's line stayed in Antrim. Da was born in Ballymoney: I was born in Ballycastle because that's where my grandparents moved to when my Da was a child
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Mrs Teddy Bear on Monday 11 July 05 13:00 BST (UK)
In reply to your last post. The family where RC. I know know that Andrew didn;t come from Ballycastle originally but was born in Ballymoney. I am sure their children were all born in Ballycastle and that  Daniel their younger son ( my granfather) was born in 1897.  His mother ( Annie Campbell ) died when he was young and his father re married possible around 1912 -14. Dan joined the army along with his brother Andrew who was awarded the DCM in 1916
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: fin on Monday 11 July 05 16:51 BST (UK)
In which case, dear child, enter unto the Ballycastle Group site (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ballycastle/) and try and use some gentle persuasion on Gerry to go and have a look in the boneyard for you...

...and I take it you have already ventured onto the Ballymoney ancestry site (http://www.ballymoneyancestry.com/index.asp) where there are 11-pages of McLaughlins and 23-pages of Campbells to be found?
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: Christopher on Monday 11 July 05 17:05 BST (UK)
Hi Mrs Teddy Bear
Still looking for you - just wondered if there is any possibility they were from some other area (possibly Scotland?)? I am having trouble with BIVRI discs tonight - will post again soon  saz ;D


Hi Fin
Yep - when looking for graves makes sense although if they changed religion, as some of mine did, it would be difficult to know what to reply when asked that question - but do you think there are any other times when it would be relevant?
Thanks for your reply
saz ;D


Hi Uncle Christopher
Sorry - its obviously a family trait we share!
saz :P


My Dear Niece Saz :P ,

The criterion for the study of genealogy was set long before the pair of us started to take an interest in the subject. Researchers are not entering into a theological discussion when asking for details of religious persuasion they are trying to establish facts. Omitting a given set of facts in research may well lead to problems which could be solved more easily if all the facts are at hand. You may be interested in the article at this site
http://digiserve.com/heraldry/tools.htm

Uncle Christopher 8)
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: needy on Monday 19 September 11 17:15 BST (UK)
I think we are looking for the same family.  My great aunt Annie Reynolds  was married to James Campbell and lived on Fair Hill St. Ballycastle.  One of their daughters married a McLaughlin, possible the Andrew you mentioned.
The 1901 & 1911 census show Daniel McLaughlin living with grandmother Annie Campbell who was then a widow. He also had a sister Annie b. 1901
Hopefully we can get in touch
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: fin on Saturday 22 October 11 05:31 BST (UK)
I was born into my grandparents' home at 16 Fairhill Street :)
No use to you though, my grandparents are long deceased and they didn't move there until 1923 anyway.
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: needy on Tuesday 15 November 11 19:40 GMT (UK)
I am also looking for Annie Campbell married to Andrew Mclaughlin. Annie Campbell McLaughlin was the daughter of Ann Reynolds (my great grand aunt) and James Campbell. They married in 1875 in the armoy church of Ireland
Would like to know the history of the 4 McLaughlin children. Daniel and Annie were raised by their widowed grandmother in Ballycastle but where did they go. Mary McLaughlin lived with her uncle James Campbell and his wife but where did she go after that.
Needy
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 15 November 11 21:43 GMT (UK)
1911 Census shows Mary McLaughlin living with uncle James Campbell-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballycastle/Castle_Street/112705

Daniel and Mary are with grandmother Campbell in 1911-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Ballycastle/Fairhill_Street/112733

In 1901 the McLaughlin family are living in Ballymena-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Antrim/Ballymena_and_Town_and_Urban_District_of_Ballymena/High_Street/926169
Title: Re: McLaughlin- Campbell Ballycastle
Post by: kingskerswell on Wednesday 16 November 11 07:45 GMT (UK)
Hi,
   Don't know about children but Andrew McLaughlin married Annie Campbell in Ballycastle Roman Catholic Church, Co. Antrim. Andrew's father was Daniel.

Regards