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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Topic started by: crystalight on Friday 13 February 15 08:31 GMT (UK)
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Hi
I wonder if there is anyone who can help me elaborate on the family-dates-places etc. of Jonah Nicholson and his family?
or indeed the McWhirters?
I descend from the McWhirter family and can only get back to John McWhirter who married Mary Nicholson daughter of Jonah (born 1726) and his wife Mary Carruthers.
The only leads from there are that he married Mary on the 3rd or 31st July 1756 according to Parish records
he was a Tobacconist and Admitted Burgess of Dumfries 9th January 1797
Died 01 July 1780 age 54 Dumfries?
Any help much appreciated
Crystal :D
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Chrystal, Nicholson tends to be a Skye name & Nicolson, Shetland but spelling means little really.
Skoosh.
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Lots of McWhirters in Ayrshire on Familysearch.Org
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Thanks to both of you.
I have found a record on Ancestry stating that Jonah was born possibly 25 Dec at Tinwald, Dumfries-shire, Scotland not 1726 as a relation had previously found out
Parish records show his marriage to Mary Carruthers which I believe to be correct as
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1756
Marriage Place: Dumfries,Dumfries,Scotland
Spouse: Mary Carruthers
FHL Film Number: 1067960
This also means his father could be
John Nicholson
Birth 1697 in Tinwald, Dumfries-shire, Scotland
But I have no evidence
Crystal :D
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I have found a record on Ancestry
Never trust anything you find on Ancestry. Use it as a pointer to find the original document from which the mention on Ancestry is derived.
Parish records show his marriage to Mary Carruthers
Again, have you followed that reference to check the original? If not, do so now. You will find the original at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk or on microfilm at various libraries and family history centres.
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This is all the available OPR records from 1700-1800 for Dumfries including possible variants.
There are none prior to 1700.
There is also a NAS reference to James, son of John, Merchant in Dumfries but this is 1784.
Don
16/08/1789 MACARTER JACOB WILLIAM MACARTER/BARBARA ALLAN FR210 (FR210) M GRAITNEY OR GRETNA /DUMFRIES 827/00 0010 0230
18/12/1778 MCWHIRTER ELISABETH JAMES MCWHIRTER/ F DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0030 0054
04/04/1755 MCWHIRTER ISABEL JAMES MCWHIRTER/ F DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0020 0236
19/07/1779 MCWHIRTER IVIE PETER MCWHIRTER/MARGRET CARRUTHERS FR41 (FR41) M MOUSWALD /DUMFRIES 844/00 0010 0033
02/07/1752 MCWHIRTER JAMES JAMES MCWHIRTER/ M DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0020 0205
14/01/1774 MCWHIRTER JAMES PETER MCWHIRTER/MARGARET CARRUTHERS FR33 (FR33) M MOUSWALD /DUMFRIES 844/00 0010 0026
01/08/1771 MCWHIRTER JOHN PETER MCWHIRTER/MARGRET CARRUTHERS FR29 (FR29) M MOUSWALD /DUMFRIES 844/00 0010 0022
24/03/1758 MCWHIRTER MARGARET JAMES MCWHIRTER/ M DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0020 0261
03/02/1782 MCWHIRTER PATRICK DOUGLAS JAMES MCWHIRTER/ M DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0030 0082
12/02/1800 MCWHIRTER RICHARD JOHN MCWHIRTERNO NAME2 M DUMFRIES /DUMFRIES 821/00 0030 0206
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Thank you for your reply Forfarian,
The parish record about Mary has been confirmed by a 3rd cousin of mine on a visit to Scotland.
I am not trusting the information on ancestry trees but adding it here in case it helps find any information.
Living in the South of England it is quite difficult to follow any of these records up. I have not had much success finding the information on Scotland's people so far.
Crystal :D
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Thank you DonM
That list it will certainly give me something to work on!
I cannot seem to firm up the records for James McWhirter born 23rd November 1801 in Dumfries to parents John McWhiter and Mary nee Nicholson married 1796 Mary's father Jonah Nicholson.
Crystal :D
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Thanks to both of you.
I have found a record on Ancestry stating that Jonah was born possibly 25 Dec at Tinwald, Dumfries-shire, Scotland not 1726 as a relation had previously found out
Parish records show his marriage to Mary Carruthers which I believe to be correct as
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1756
Marriage Place: Dumfries,Dumfries,Scotland
Spouse: Mary Carruthers
FHL Film Number: 1067960
This also means his father could be
John Nicholson
Birth 1697 in Tinwald, Dumfries-shire, Scotland
But I have no evidence
Crystal :D
Hi Crystal,
I realize this post is super old, hoping you're still on here. Where did you find the record for John Nicholson b 1697? I believe I am related to Jonah Nicholson via his brother Benjamin so if Jonah's father is John...then that's also relevant to me! Let me know here or you can email *
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It is all still somewhat of a mystery to me, I have not done anything on that side of the family for a while, I have copied the records I do have below.
Would love to hear if you can shed any more light on this?
Records found:
Name: Jonah Nicolson (possibly Nicolson)
Birth year 1724
Birth place -
Baptism year 1725
Baptism date 03 May 1725
Baptism place REFORMED PRESBYTERIAN, CRAWFORDJOHN, LANARK, SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) John
Father's last name Nicolson
Mother's first name(s) -
Mother's last name -
Residence Crawfordjohn, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Place Crawfordjohn
County Lanarkshire
Country Scotland
Name: Jonah Nicholson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 31 Jul 1756
Marriage Place: Dumfries,Dumfries,Scotland
Spouse: Mary Carruthers
Spouse's father's name James Carruthers
FHL Film Number: 1067960
Source Information Ancestry.com. Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2014.
Original data: Scotland, Marriages, 1561-1910. Salt Lake City, Utah: FamilySearch, 2013.
Marriage to Agness Forrest
19 July 1723
Yester, East Lothian, Scotland
Also
Name: John Nicolson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 28 Jun 1723
Marriage Place: Haddington, East Lothian,Scotland
Spouse: Agnes Forrest
FHL Film Number: 1067848
Source Information Ancestry.com. Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910