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Title: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: kaycee on Tuesday 05 July 05 12:30 BST (UK)
Is there anyone who would look at Wednesbury Parish Church Register. On the 10.10.1830 threee Coley children - Mary, William James and Benjamin were baptised. The IGI shows them as children of James & Mary Coley.

I would like to know if there is any other information shown, such as ages, occupation of father and abode.

I am really interested in tracing a James Coley (with a son Benjamin). Unable to trace said James so far, or his wife or any other information, except that on Ben's marriage cert he is shown as a boatloader (in 1863).

Cannot find any of this family, where born or anything. Can't find them on 1861 census. Felling very frustrated.  Have been looking a long time and have only just found this site-fairly new to the intricacies of "the net".

Thank you.
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: mattanderson on Tuesday 26 July 05 23:17 BST (UK)
what other information can yhou supply - i.e dates other siblings and so forth?
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: PrueM on Wednesday 27 July 05 00:10 BST (UK)
Hi kaycee,

The IGI shows a marriage between James COLLEY and Mary LOCKLEY on 5 Feb 1811, St Bartholemew's, Wednesbury, Staffs. Batch No. M055204.

There is also another christening for a child of James and Mary:  Hannah, on 13 FEB 1814  in St Bartholemew's.  Batch No. C055201

Hope this helps

Prue
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: kaycee on Thursday 28 July 05 18:15 BST (UK)
Hello mattanderson,

Thank you for replying to my Wednesbury request. I am sorry to say that we cannot supply any other definite information on Benjamin or his father James Coley.  We only know of James because he appears on Benjamin's wedding certificate in July 1863 - where he is stated to be a Boatloader and presumably still alive.

I had very high hopes when the 1861 census was published on the nett, but I cannot find any of the Coley family, not even Benjamin and his family even though I have tried an address search - from 1871 they lived at Eagle Passage in Tipton.  They were still there on the 1891 census.

It might be something I am(or not) doing - I am not terribly computer literate (but willing to learn!!)

Thank you for your interest.

Kath
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: kaycee on Thursday 28 July 05 18:23 BST (UK)
Hello PrueM

Thank you for your interest re: my Coley/Colley Wednesbury Parish Records enquiry.  We had seen the marriage of James and Mary Lockley on the IGI, though I had missed the Hannah christening. We are not sure that this is "our" James and are hesitant to "claim" him. 

We only know of James because he appears on Benjamin's marriage certificate, where he is shown as a Boatloader and so presumably still alive.

I have been unable to trace any of them on the 1861 census, even though I have tried an address search as well as person search. They (Benjamin and his wife & family) were at Eagle Passage, Tipton for 30 years so we had hoped that they were there in 1861 (maybe James would be with him!!).

Thank you for your interest - I shall have to keep searching.

Kath
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Willow 4873 on Friday 05 August 05 13:45 BST (UK)
Hiya Kaycee

Have you tried searching for them under the Colley spelling? I'm also researching Colley's but mine are all over Tibberton, Worcester way

Willow x
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: kaycee on Friday 05 August 05 14:17 BST (UK)
Hello Willow X

Thank you for your reply re: Coley/Colley. We have tried all the variations we can think of including Coallee, Coaley, etc.

We don't actually know where the family originated. Currently we are looking for James Coley who appears on his son Ben's marriage certificate in 1863. Ben (my husband's gt.grandfather says born Wednesbury on 2 censuses and Tipton on the other one we have). That is why we thought about the Ben Wednesbury Parish Register and the three children of James and Mary christened in 1830 - that name is spelt Colley if it is of any use to you.

Thank you for your reply. I'll try Tibberton again - not very far from us!
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Willow 4873 on Friday 05 August 05 18:16 BST (UK)
Hiya Kaycee

Any idea of when James and Ben were born? We might be able to narrow it down from that

Willow x
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: kaycee on Friday 05 August 05 19:19 BST (UK)
We have absolutely no idea at all about birth of James and all we have on Benjamin is he states on his 21.7.1863 marriage certificate that he is 34, which takes us back to 1829. This is why we pounced with glee on the baptism in Wednesbury Parish Church (IGI) on 10.10.1830.

All we know of Ben's father is his (James) name on the marriage certificate. So far we have had no luck at all.

Thanks for your help.
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Willow 4873 on Saturday 06 August 05 09:33 BST (UK)
Hiya Kaycee

The easiest way round this might to be to put a post on the look ups board and ask someone to see if they can find him on the 1851 census

Willow x
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Willow 4873 on Monday 08 August 05 08:55 BST (UK)
Hiya Kaycee

I think I may have found his brother living in Hollyhead Road, Wednesbury

William Coley b 1830 Tipton Wheelwright employing 3 men & 1 boy
Sarah Coley b 1835 Walsall wife
George Coley b 1858 Wednesbury son
William H Coley b 1860 Wednesbury son
Martha Parton b 1843 Wednesbury general servant
James Nock b 1844 wolverley, Worcs apprentice
George Coley b 1819 Tipton brother tailor

Source RG9/2035

Folio 3

Willow x
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: kaycee on Monday 08 August 05 19:43 BST (UK)
Hello Willow X,  Thank you for the Coley detail which you have sent to me to-day. I will research this and see if I can track out Ben. It is very kind of you to spend time doing this and I do appreciate it.

I really, really hope this is his family, as we have been stuck on the Coley's for years.

Again, thank you.
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Willow 4873 on Monday 08 August 05 20:05 BST (UK)
Your welcome

I'll keep my eyes open

Willow x
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Heberax on Sunday 22 July 07 00:56 BST (UK)
Kaycee, i have quite alot of colley's but they start, from Brosley then in to w-ton james i have is 1896, but there are a lot of them some bilston w-ton thay could be the same family, im me and we can see,
                                                                                             regards
                                                                                              steve
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: kaycee on Monday 23 July 07 19:10 BST (UK)
Hello Steve,
Thank you for your reply re Coley/Colley. I see you are showing a year for James of 1896 and wonder (and hope) you mean 1796. We have no idea where the Coley/Colleys originated. Could well be Broseley.

I will not bore you with the information I have (unless you want it that is) until you confirm the year for James.

Many thanks again.

Kath
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Heberax on Tuesday 24 July 07 11:35 BST (UK)
Hi Kaycee
                i have a 1796 for colley but its Thomas colley, which starts my colley part of the tree, i have him having two sons, Noah, and Sayed, all from broseley not a million, miles away from wednesbury though, think Broseley is or was then Ironbridge, if i can help in any other way you can contact me and i will try,
                                             steve
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Heberax on Wednesday 12 September 07 18:59 BST (UK)
Hi Kaycee
                 I will have that info if you still want to try and bore, but i find all this very interesting, so i hope to here from you soon, do you use GenesReunited.co.uk ? if so we could look at the tree's on there,
                                                                                                Regards
                                                                                                Steve
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: J.J. on Tuesday 16 September 14 20:39 BST (UK)
Did you ever solve this query?
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 17 September 14 12:44 BST (UK)
not as far as I am aware I have looked since and found a Benjamin Coley in West Brom with parents James and Mary but his occupation is a smith not boatloader
I think that Benjamin went on to marry a Mary Ann and was still living in West Brom in 1871

Willow x
Title: Re: Coley - Wednesbury Parish Church Register
Post by: kaycee on Monday 22 September 14 08:48 BST (UK)
No, we never did manage to find any further information on Benjamin or his father James. We think that perhaps James married Mary LOCKLEY but have not been able to confirm this.
Kaycee