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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: cazza59 on Friday 13 February 15 04:15 GMT (UK)
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Hi Everyone
Would love an approximate date for this pretty lady. It's postcard format which I think dates from 1918+ but would like a closer date based on clothing if possible.
Cheers
Caroline
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It looks Edwardian to me Caz....Fabulous photo.
Carol
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I thought that at first but the white border is throwing me, so I'm in two minds.
So where's your colour version? :P :P :P :P :P
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I think Vanderbilt was American so not too sure when they introduced the white border...I know it was introduced in the UK in 1915 for economy...Also the photo could be earlier than the postcard?
Carol
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Not sure Carol. Can't find any info on Vanderbilt but I could be using the wrong search criteria! ::)
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This could be him:
http://www.wisconsinacademy.org/gallery/archive-river-paul-vanderbilt-and-photography
Carol
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There is something written beside Vanderbilt but I can't make it out.
How beautiful is that dress? Do you think wedding since she is holding roses?
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one of the other words is "James".
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I thought I could just make out Liverpool and came across this (scanned the bottom half at 4800dpi, I'd post it but it would crash the system! ;D) :
E.J.Vanderbilt, 10 James Street, & 67 Church Street, Liverpool
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Well it would have to be wouldn't it.... :P ;D ;D ;D ;..well spotted...I couldn't make it out from your scan...I think it more likely to be a 21st photo Caz....I don't think white wedding dresses became popular until later but I could be wrong.
Carol
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Trying to find him in the census returns.....
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Okay...seeing as you asked...My coloured version for you.
Carol
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Aw wow! I'm blown away...that is stunning! Love it, love it, love it!
Caz
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Can't stop looking at it....I just love it!
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Tried to post this 3 times ::) ;D ;D ;D...A cooler version with more contrast to hide the flaws :P ;D ;D ;D
Carol
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I'm making myself dizzy scrolling up and down trying to decide which one I like best and the truth is I love them both! Flaws smaws...it's perfection! 8)
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Could we have a look at the back, Caz? What a sweet photo!
I have a Vanderbilt but it's Canadian. There are a couple of EJ Vanderbilt photos on the web but they don't look anything like this guy's cardstock...they're all fancy-like.
There had been white wedding dresses for quite some time but as this is a sepia photo we can't really be sure this one is white. Looks like white, but could be any pastel I suppose. I could totally see myself wearing it, on a dreamy warm afternoon, sitting on the lawn by a willow tree with Lady Cora while Barrow serves us tea. Although I'd rather it were Bates serving the tea :P ;D
Hairstyle is vaguely early 20s. I need to see the hemline :(
Cheers,
China
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Coming up....
I was scanning quite a few and didn't get around to the backs!
Stay tuned...
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Here 'tis
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Kltd....Dated 1918 -1936 that are known....but that dates only the postcard.
Carol
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Now you see my dilemma.....
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Germany stopped printing postcards just after WW1
Carol
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This pic is such a contradiction. The card stock may have been printed in Germany, but there is no question the address on the front is James and Church Sts, Liverpool. The stamp imprint as we both agree is 1918 onwards.
I also wish we could see the hemline, but everything is pointing to 1918+.
She just has that stylish elegance of the Edwardian era.
Over to you China....
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The cross over blouse with the three quarter length sleeves and the hairstyle were popular around the 1909 - 1912 period if that helps..
John
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It does and it doesn't.. ;D, that confirms what we thought about the photo being Edwardian, but the card stock appears to date post war, so I'm going to stick my neck out and say possibly a reprint.
Thanks for your input John, very much appreciated. :)
Caz
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A beautiful picture
Pat
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I'm thinking very early 20s. Hair across the forehead, although not too much, scallopped hemline of the surcoat, and the back of the card. It's really a bit ambiguous, isn't it. Sorry I can't do better :P
Still, such a lovely photo :)
Cheers,
China
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Thank you so much Pat, you've done a beautiful job, she looks stunning! 8) 8)
Caz
PS Love your attention to detail! :D
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China my ole' mate! ;D
It is a funny one isn't it, shame it's not full length as you said, the hemline would speak volumes. Thank you for giving up your time, cos you know I'm always very appreciative of your opinion! :-* I'm happy to go with early 20s as there is more evidence for that period than against...although reprint screams at me!
Cheers
Caz
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Not too sure it's a reprint, but it's not a very professional job. Offcenter and a little wonky. Wonder if it might be a home development job.
The double scallopped hem of the overdress really has a 20s look, but any later than 1922 it would probably be a dropped waist.
Cheers,
C
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"Offcenter and a little wonky"
Are you talking about me or the pic?? :P :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Circa 1920 it is! ;) :)
Caz
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Thank you Caz, glad you like it
Pat
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Couldn't resist her Caz ;D ;D ;D
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As she looks a bit posh ... I got out the silver too ;) ;D
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Aw am I so glad you stopped by my wonderful friend! Stunning interpretation, but we wouldn't expect anything less from one of the original masters of the board! ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)
Hope you've been behaving yourself lately! :P :P :P
Caz
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Aw am I so glad you stopped by my wonderful friend! Stunning interpretation, but we wouldn't expect anything less from one of the original masters of the board! ;D ;D ;D ;D 8) 8)
Hope you've been behaving yourself lately! :P :P :P
Caz
I 'm always well behaved ! ;D ;D
Oops.. think I may have developed splinters on my nose!
Lovely photos you've got there Caz ... it's easy to work on a good scan and there wasn't any real damage ...a lovely exercise ...love the detail on the dress.... you're lucky to have such a lovely pics in your collection . Here is one keeping to the original as much as possible..... XX
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Your spoiling me!! Faultless! :D :D
Yes, hmm, well behaved..Polldoll...yer right! :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Caz
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"Offcenter and a little wonky"
Are you talking about me or the pic?? :P :P :P :P :P ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ssshhh...keep them guessing ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm just looking at a lime green postit notice stuck on my Notice board behind my computer and it has on it reminders for China's wedding anniversary date on it , Cazza's birthday on it and Carol's (Treetotal) birthday on it!! :o and it's dated 2008 ! It just seemed pertinent to bring it up as we all seem to be featuring on this thread ... ;D ( counting our blessings eh )
Two things strike me about this .... one ...it brings home how long we lot have been nattering on this site ( we started about 2006) and two......Jeez when was the last time I dusted that notice board :o ;D
Oh ....And three .... is that a record length of time for the glue to last on a postit? !! ;D
ps Aw shucks Caz ... shaddddup .... you kind words embarrassing .... ;) ;) :-*
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Hi Caz, One more colour version for your collection. You have many beautiful versions! , Tommy
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Well I like the smirk on her face!
You've got some lovely restores here Caz!
Wiggy
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Hiya Poll
I think there is no doubt that the original crew you mentioned have formed a life long friendship, and the longevity of your post it note is testament to that fact I would think! ;D ;D ;D
Poll if anyone found one spec of dust in your house I would eat my hat!
Caz
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Hi Caz, One more colour version for your collection. You have many beautiful versions! , Tommy
Hi Tommy
And you have given me another beautiful version to add to the others! I love it, thank you very much! :)
Caz
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Well I like the smirk on her face!
You've got some lovely restores here Caz!
Wiggy
I do indeed Wiggy. Just wondering where yours is? ::) ;)
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That's a lovely clean colouring and restore Tommy ... no wonder Caz is thrilled ...We do like things clean don't we Caz? ;D ;D
I have trained the dust in my house ... to keep out of my sight once I developed an allergy to it ! ;D
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To the point of obsession! ;D ;D ;D
Caz