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Title: SHEPHERD Benjamin
Post by: cookefam on Tuesday 10 February 15 00:08 GMT (UK)
Can anyone help me with Benjamin Shepherd, born 5 June 1825, supposedly Manchester, married Mary Heaton Sept 1850 in Manchester.  Trying to prove his parentage.  On his marriage certificate said father was James Shepherd, a coalminer.  Have a birth which states father James - a weaver and mother Mary Ann - christened Habergham Eves.  Can't locate Benjamin in 1841 census - ones located have different parents.  Have rest of his history, but cannot PROVE his parentage, and/or provable siblings.
ElvieAnn
Title: Re: SHEPHERD Benjamin
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 10 February 15 00:22 GMT (UK)
Hi

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supposedly Manchester,

Is this the birthplace he gives on censuses?  Where did you get his full birthdate from?

What was Benjamins occupation on the marriage cert

Who were the witnesses
Title: Re: SHEPHERD Benjamin
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 10 February 15 00:30 GMT (UK)
I've found the marriage cert - Benjamin was a dyer and neither witness was surname Shepherd
Title: Re: SHEPHERD Benjamin
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 10 February 15 00:34 GMT (UK)
1841 for Manchester but occupations do not tie in with marriage cert so suspect this is not the right family

James Shepperd   55 cotton weaver
Anne   55
Elizabeth  20
Benjamin  15 piecer
HO107 Piece 576/6  Folio 12 Page 18
Title: Re: SHEPHERD Benjamin
Post by: heatherjulie on Tuesday 10 February 15 07:58 GMT (UK)
In case it helps, the address on the marriage certificate for Benjamin is Lime Street
Title: Re: SHEPHERD Benjamin
Post by: heatherjulie on Tuesday 10 February 15 08:07 GMT (UK)
Is this the baptism that you have?

Benjamin Shepherd
Christening Date 05 Jun 1825 WESLEYAN,MERECLOUGH,LANCASHIRE
Birth Date 18 May 1825
Father's Name James Shepherd
Mother's Name Mary Ann




Title: Re: SHEPHERD Benjamin
Post by: garstonite on Tuesday 10 February 15 08:58 GMT (UK)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V5JR-77X
no others on Familysearch for that couple in that area
Mereclough is Burnley area - it may not be the right 1825 birth / baptism ?
Mereclough to Manchester is 26 miles ....and in between is Rochdale
familysearch has Shepherd baptisms with James - Mary Ann as parents in 1830's ??...wonder if these are Benjamins siblings - Benjamin is top of the list
https://familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3Ajames~%20%2Bsurname%3Ashepherd~%20%2Bmarriage_place%3Amereclough~%20%2Bmarriage_year%3A1800-1825~%20%2Bspouse_givenname%3A%22mary%20ann%22~%20%2Brecord_country%3AEngland%20%2Brecord_subcountry%3A%22England%2CLancashire%22
Title: Re: SHEPHERD Benjamin
Post by: cookefam on Tuesday 10 February 15 20:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks for all your replies - these are all the questions that I have been trying to find one answer to.  I am not sure of the birth and I have linked him to a James Shepherd christened Haberglam Eves 19 Aug 1797, dying in 14 Dec 1862 in Scots Lane Aspull - but not sure of that.  In 1841, 1851 census a James Shepherd living Aspull.  Don't know even if this is the right family - that is the confusion.  Can't find any other Benjamin Shepherd born to a James that seems to match anything further.  I live in Australia so am trying to tie in area of Lancashire on maps.
Thank yu all