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Anyone researching Thomas Rippett bc1776/81 Ireland, possibly married Catherine, children seem to be bp Manchester. Thomas on the 1871 census age 92yrs. Some other names seem to be Rosenbaum, Lomas and Neild. New family to search but seem to be going round in circles. May have knocked down part of a long standing brick wall.
Any help or pointers welcome.
Many Thanks,
Megran.
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Baptism: 24 Jul 1814 Collegiate and Parish, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Margaret Rippett - Daughter of Thomas Rippett & Catharine
Abode: Manchester
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: C D Wray
Baptism: 30 Mar 1834 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
John Rippett - Son of Thomas Rippett & Catherine
Born: 4 Oct 1821
Abode: Manch.
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: R. Remington
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Marriage: 17 Mar 1839 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Henry Rippitt - full age, Packer, Bachelor, Ringley
Sarah Caton - full age, Spinster, Ringley
Groom's Father: Thos. Rippitt, Weaver
Bride's Father: Daniel Caton, Butcher
Witness: Jane Rippitt; John Leyland
Married by Banns by: G. B. Sandford Curate
Marriage: 6 Aug 1848 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Adam Rippett - full age, Weaver, Bachelor, Gerrett St. Oldham
Martha Cross - (X), full age, Spinster, Todd St. Oldham
Groom's Father: Thomas Rippett, Weaver
Bride's Father: George Cross, Butcher
Witness: John Caross; Ellen Cross, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Booker
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James Rippet
Christening Date 20 Apr 1806
Christening Place CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER
Father's Name Thomas Rippet
Mother's Name Catharine
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1861
2 Waldens? Court, Lees Street, Manchester
Thomas Rippett 80 born Ireland
Jane Lomas Daughter 50 born Manchester
Margret Lomas Grand daughter15 born Manchester
Mary Ann Rippitt Grand daughter22 born Manchester
George Porteous Lodger 50
William White Lodger40
William White 9
James Shackleton Lodger 44
Rg5/2956/16/25
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Thomas Rippett
Age:93
Burial Date:20 Jul 1872
Parish Harpurhey, Christ Church
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1841
Nadin's Court Manchester
Thomas Reppett 60 Weaver born Ireland
Thomas Reppett 14 Tailor's app
James Reppett 30 Weaver
John Reppett 20 Porter
Adam Reppett 15 Weaver
Jane Reppett 30
All the rest were born in the county of Lancashire
107/574/5/23/41
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Hi heatherjulie,
Many many thanks for all the information sent. I will be back after digesting all.
Regards,
Megran.
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1861
2 Waldens? Court, Lees Street, Manchester
Thomas Rippett 80 born Ireland
Jane Lomas Daughter 50 born Manchester
Margret Lomas Grand daughter15 born Manchester
Mary Ann Rippitt Grand daughter22 born Manchester
George Porteous Lodger 50
William White Lodger40
William White 9
James Shackleton Lodger 44
Rg5/2956/16/25
Heatherjulie,
Just starting to go through all the help you sent, will reply one by one. This census did throw me. For some reason I had the transcript which has an error, Mary Ann is given as Mary Ann LOMAS. On the image it is as you gave. I had found a possible marriage for the parents of Margaret Lomas, being James Lomas and Jane Rippett. (Will contact FindMyPast about the error). Which would have made Mary Ann born before the marriage. This helped to break down one brick wall.
Regards and Thanks again.
Megran.
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Thomas Rippett
Age:93
Burial Date:20 Jul 1872
Parish Harpurhey, Christ Church
Hi heatherjulie,
Thought this would have been an easier one to find, but Freebmd and FindMyPast have the surname as RIPPATT which I am almost certain did not show as a variant. (Added to the list.) Well spotted.
Many Thanks again,
Megran.
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Baptism: 24 Jul 1814 Collegiate and Parish, Manchester, Lancashire, England
Margaret Rippett - Daughter of Thomas Rippett & Catharine
Abode: Manchester
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: C D Wray
Baptism: 30 Mar 1834 Collegiate, Manchester, Lancashire, England
John Rippett - Son of Thomas Rippett & Catherine
Born: 4 Oct 1821
Abode: Manch.
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: R. Remington
[/size]James Rippet
Christening Date 20 Apr 1806
Christening Place CATHEDRAL,MANCHESTER
Father's Name Thomas Rippet
Mother's Name Catharine
Hi again,
You have confirmed these for me. There are other children according to the census. More searching to do. Half term coming up so will leave for the time being. (family visiting)
More Thanks,
Regards,
Megran.
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Marriage: 17 Mar 1839 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Henry Rippitt - full age, Packer, Bachelor, Ringley
Sarah Caton - full age, Spinster, Ringley
Groom's Father: Thos. Rippitt, Weaver
Bride's Father: Daniel Caton, Butcher
Witness: Jane Rippitt; John Leyland
Married by Banns by: G. B. Sandford Curate
Marriage: 6 Aug 1848 St Mary the Virgin, Prestwich, Lancashire, England
Adam Rippett - full age, Weaver, Bachelor, Gerrett St. Oldham
Martha Cross - (X), full age, Spinster, Todd St. Oldham
Groom's Father: Thomas Rippett, Weaver
Bride's Father: George Cross, Butcher
Witness: John Caross; Ellen Cross, (X)
Married by Banns by: John Booker
Hi heatherjulie,
Now going to delve into these two families for more clues.
Many thanks,
Megran.
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1871
20 Frazer Street, Newton Heath, Manchester
Adam Rippett 45 born Manchester Labourer Bricklayers
Martha Rippett 45 born Levenshulme Washerwoman
Sarah Rippett 18 born Manchester Piecer
James Rippett 15 born Manchester Striker
RG10/4058/56/30
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1861
1 Clayton Street, Newton Heath
Adam Rippitt 35 Weaver Cotton
Martha Rippitt 35
John Rippitt 11 Driller
Sarah Rippitt 8
James Rippitt 5
RG9/2967/84/19
1851
5 Hayes Street, Newton Heath
Adam Rippett 25 Cotton weaver Power
Martha Rippett 25
Jno Rippett 2/12
Also at 5 Hayes Street are
Geo Cross 49 Born Lymm Cheshire Shopkeeper and Beer Seller
Esther 45 born Manchester Shopkeeper and Beer Seller
Ellen 23 Cotton Power weaver
Esther 19 Cotton Power Weaver
Geo 18 Wheelwright
Thos 16 Cotton Weaver Power
James 15 Scholar
Aaron Scholar
Harriet Scholar
Betsy Scholar
Louisa Scholar
Jno Scholar
Sarah Scholar
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Death
Adam Rippett
Estimated birth year about 1826
Registration Quarter Apr-May-Jun 1881
Age at Death 55
Registration district Manchester
1881
43 Bradford Road, New Cross, Manchester
Adam Rippett Head 55 Mechanic's Labourer
Martha Rippett Wife 55
Joseph Carter Son-in-law 28 Journeyman Mechanic
Sarah Carter Daughter 28 Piecer in Cotton Mill
Henrietta Hope Grand daughter 5
Ada Carter Grand daughter 1 week
RG11/3985/32/4
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1891
26 Davies Street, New Cross
Martha Rippett Head 65 Widow
Martha Jones Boarder 65 Widow
James Rippett Son Married 35 Blacksmith
Mary A Hayes Grand daughter Married 22 Cotton Reeler
Henrietta Hope Granddaughter15
Martha J Hayes Granddaughter 1
RG12/3234/19/33
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1901
27 Parcel Street, Bradford, Manchester
James Spiller 26
Henrietta Spiller 24
Emily Spiller 30
Henrietta Spiller 2
James Spiller 1/12
Martha Rippett Grandmother 75 born Levenshulme
Rg13/3764/ 79/37
Lots of new names for you to research :)
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1871
1 Chimney Street
Henry Rippett 51 Cotton thread Maker up
Sarah Ann Rippett 41
Mary J Rippett born Heaton Norris 18 Cotton Doubler
John H Rippett 15 born Heaton Norris Cotton Doffer
Thomas Rippett 5 born Heaton Norris
Albert Rippett 1 born Heaton Norris
Sarah A Rippett 9 born Heaton Norris
RG10/3655/50/42
On www.cheshirebmd.org.uk the mother of these children had a maiden name of Buck
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Hi heatherjulie,
Many thanks again. Yes, plenty of new names and looks like some complicated families. Certainly going to keep me busy. Thanks again,
Regards,
Megran.
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Anyone researching Thomas Rippett bc1776/81 Ireland, possibly married Catherine, children seem to be bp Manchester. Thomas on the 1871 census age 92yrs. Some other names seem to be Rosenbaum, Lomas and Neild. New family to search but seem to be going round in circles. May have knocked down part of a long standing brick wall.
Any help or pointers welcome.
Many Thanks,
Megran.
I have found on A......y reference to a tree listing Rippett, Rosenbaum, Lomas and Neild. Please could someone pass a message to the owner. Not able to contact them at the library. [On another website.]
I would be very grateful.
Many thanks,
Megran.
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I've done some research into the Rippett family in Manchester. If you want any info, please let me know.
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Hi Glen,
Delighted to hear from a Rippett (of Manchester) researcher. I will check my file tomorrow and reply again asap.
Many thanks for contacting me.
Megran.
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Hi Glen,
My main brickwall at the moment is Jane Rippett d/o Thomas and Catherine Rippett. At first there was a possibility there were two Jane's. I found a marriage for a Jane married in 1835 to a William Rosenbaum and a son baptised 1836. The next marriage I found was a Jane married as a Spinster to a James Lomas in 1845 and a daughter Margaret born to them in 1845. Was the first marriage dissolved and what happened to William? There are other brickwalls in the Rippett family. I have more info. There are several spellings for Rippett and Rosenbaun also mistranscriptions.
Many Thanks if you can help.
Megran.
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I think there's only one Jane Rippett, and William Rosenbaum possibly took off and left her and their son. Maybe he emigrated? Certainly haven't found an acceptable death. It wasn't uncommon to tell untruths on certs. I've come across quite a few! I've not had any success with Margaret Lomas as it's a very common name and often misspelled as Lomax.
Jane subsequently married William Neild (b.1809 d.1886) - 1 Jan 1862. She died Jan 1893. In 1891 she was living with son Thomas (shown as married, but no wife on census) at 55 Naylor St, Manchester. His wife and family were living at 155 Slater St (not far away, I think)
Not much help with your brickwalls I'm afraid.
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Not about the Rippetts - I've also got Walkers of Bolton in the same tree. Are they connected to the Rippetts in any way?
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Hi Glen, Thanks for your reply. Yes, with all the info on the census etc there is only the one Jane Rippett. Started to check for a William Rosenbaum nothing found (yet) but with different spellings of the surname or even a change of name not surprising. No burial for Jane Neild found.
Thomas (Rippett) Rosenbaum married Mary Nevil 1859 at St Mary the Virgin, Eccles, they had two daughters Catherine bn 1862 and Elizabeth bn 1864. In 1871 census Mary (married, no husband there) and the two daughters were living with Jane Neild Hd, as dau-in-law and grand daughters. Mary died 1908, Elizabeth 1909, Catherine married. Thomas Rippett Rosenbaun died 1909.
I have further info etc on Margaret Lomas she married and their son married Mary Ellen Walker bn M/c and bp Bolton, her parents were both from Bolton.
There seems to be some Trees on Ancestry, I'm not a subscriber, but they do differ on the Index.
Thomas Rippett has several members of his extended family living with him from time to time.
Hope this may help. I will continue on the Rippett brickwalls.
Many Thanks,
Regards,
Megran.
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Hi again
I found a baptism for William Rosenbaum (CofE), on 23 Jun 1833 at St Matthew, Bethnal Green, born 7 Jun 1805 a Biallistok, Russia(Bialystok, Poland), parents Lion and Rebekah Rosenbaum. Lion's occ given as Rabbi. No sign of him after son's bapt, in which his occ is given as Teacher of Languages. As I've not found any census records for him, there's no way of checking if it's him.
I'm pretty sure that Mary Nevil was in fact Mary Nevin, whose sister, Catherine, is my 2xgt-grandmother. Thomas and Mary's daughters were recorded as mother's maiden name Bevin and Nevill (this has happened several times with other family members). The reason I think this, is because, in 1861, what appears to be Mary's parents were living with Thomas and Mary Rippett at Portugal St. In 1871 Thomas Nevin was living with Jane Neild (head of household), Thomas Rippett (so he was in the household!), his wife Mary and their 2 daughters (plus 2 lodgers)..
From 1881 - 1901 Mary and both daughters were living at, first, 55 East Leigh St, Manchester, and then Slater St, Manchester.
In 1901, Thomas Rippett Rosenbaum was living (head of household) at Miles Platting with 2 lodgers.
I found the marriage for Margaret Lomas, but discounted it because it was in Bolton. I'll take another look. Thanks for that. The reason I asked about the Walker family was because my gt-grandmother was called Elizabeth Walker, born 1856 at Darcy Lever, Bolton. Only connected by marriage to the Nevin line.
I've an Ancestry a/c if you've anything specific you want me to check out.
Regards
Glen
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Re: Mary Ann Rippett, born abt 1838 Manchester. Father - Thomas Rippett. dyer
1841 - Found Mary Ann Rippett, 3yrs old, born Lancashire living with Richd & Mary Gregory (both 25yrs born Lancashire) Stone Mason, at 5 Thompson Street, Manchester. No indication of who she is in relation to the Gregorys. No trace of the Gregorys after 1841 in Manchester, nor Mary Ann, but I'm still looking.
Could be illegitimate daughter of Thomas Rippett jun (1827-1848) or even his father Thomas snr.
Therefore bapt could be recorded under mother's maiden name (unknown and almost impossible to find) or may not have been baptised. Could also have been a catholic baptism. Checked every bapt record possible on Ancestry, FindMyPast, LancsOPC,
Thompson St is in Ancoats and is only a relatively short distance from Lee Street where all the Rippetts were living from 1841 to 1861.
There's a marriage for Mary Ann Rippett to John Henry Richardson on 19 Nov 1866 at Manchester Cathedral. Have you already found this?
Who did Margaret Lomas marry, and where?
Regards
Glen
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Hi Glen,
Reply in part, later than planned. Margaret Lomas married Alexander Robson 23 Dec 1865, St John, Miles Platting, M/c. Margaret only had this one christian name in all records I have found.
Now to Mary Ann Rippett. Have the 1841 census with the Richard and Mary Gregory, like you haven't found any other reference to R & M.
1851 census MAR 12yrs G/D of Thomas Rippett Hd
1861 census MAR 22yrs on image, but Mary Ann Lomas on transcript G/d of Thomas Rippett Hd
1866 marriage of MAR to John Henry Richardson. MAR may have said her father as Thomas with a 'new' occupation.
1871 census JHR & MAR have two children Elizabeth Ann bc1862 & Sarah bc1869
BUT Elizabeth Ann is registered before marriage as EA Ripit no mothers maiden name.
1872 a son Thomas Richardson is registered with mother as Rippett may be other children
This is as far I have been able to search.
Notes made....
MAR could be dau of May/Mary of T&C...nothing else known.
MAR could be dau of Margaret of T&C...nothing else known.
MAR could be dau of Jane (& Wm Rosenbaum)
MAR could be dau of Thomas Rippett son of T&C (he died 1848)
MAR could be dau of Thomas Rippett Hd of family
I did see the late baptism of William Rosenbaum.
Will continue searching,
Regards,
Megran.
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These are some notes a while ago when researching the Rippett/Nevin family - "There is a baptism recorded, on 16 Jun 1811, for a May (should be Mary) Ripett, born 30 Apr 1811, at Manchester Cathedral, daughter of Thomas and Catherine Ripett. (The name could be a mistake by the recorder because the baptism is in the middle of several other Marys)."
I still think it was an error by the person recording the baptisms (not the first time I've seen this, especially at the Cathedral where there were a huge number of baptisms at the same time).
Thanks for the info about Margaret - I'd found this, but had got it into my head that she'd married in Bolton, but none of them tied-in with father's name.
Regards
Glen