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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: johnny1588 on Tuesday 03 February 15 15:47 GMT (UK)
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There is a record of an Edward Tindal on FreeReg, who died in 1764 in the village of Ellingham, North'd. Is it possible to find out what the original document was that the transcription came from? Perhaps from the file number? The reason I ask is of all the genealogy sites I have been on (both subsciption and free) the above record can be found only on FreeReg and nowhere else. I would be interested in the source document as it could contain other information relating to my ancestors. I hope that makes sense!
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The record is also on findmypast. they say it comes from
Record set
Northumberland and Durham Burials
And about that set they say
About Northumberland and Durham Burials
Uncover your English ancestry through the Northumberland and Durham burial records. Discover where your ancestor is buried, where he/she lived and an additional relatives name to add to your growing family tree.
Each record includes a transcript of the original burial records. The transcripts were created by the Northumberland and Durham Family History Society, formed in 1975. The amount of information in each record can fluctuate, but most include a combination of the following information:
If that is not enough information you could contact the Northumberland board coordinator on freereg, although not sure if this is the type of enquiry they would welcome
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The burial is possibly on the LDS Film 993565 Item 1 for Ellingham but not on the IGI because they do not normally put deaths on the IGI. Here is the description of the abovementioned Film.
"The registers of Ellingham, in the country of Northumberland : transcript of the earliest existing register ... containing baptisms, 1695 to 1819; marriages, 1695 to 1804; burials, 1695 to 1819; dissenters register (births only), 1751 to 1806; also banns register, marriages, 1806 to 1814; banns, 1754 to 1814 [and] miscellaneous papers."
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I think it is possible that on freereg the description of source is under the Classification Church
eg
Place Ellingham
Church St. Maurice Tr
Tr meaning transcript.
I am sure there was a post on rootschat where this was mentioned recently.
Rosie
off to have another look for the post ;D
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Why don't you ask the Co-Ordinator for FreeREG, Northumberland. The registers for Ellingham have been transcribed by only one person - Barbara Grenville.
Or even get in touch with Northumberland and Durham Family History Society.
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Interesting to see that FindMyPast do not share as much information on Edward as FreeREG :)
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Tr would be transcripts. To see what areas have been covered you look under county and select town in question. The details given on the individual you look up usually says which church. Certainly when creating a file we have to put in the area, church whether baptisms etc and the source of the info. Freereg uses parish records where they can but do use transcripts etc if no access to other material. Also use original registers if they can get their hands on them. It depends on who will let us use what! That's a major point of contention! We input our data into spreadsheets. although they are number and we input a register number if they have one, i think they are assigned a number because we can put any missed out and entered later by inserting in the relevant part of our file or add them at the end. So the number they are in our spreadsheet does n't mean anything. In respect to transcripts , the northumberland coordinator should be able to tell you the actual source. Sometimes transcripts come from transcript books already done or cd's or some that someone has done for own benefit and donates them. may come from the local archives.To see whats covered look on the county on the home back and click and click the town.scroll down and you can see the churches and whats been done and what being worked on. I agree with rosie 99 . People have given you the relevant advice.If you don't have any look , send me a pm and i'll try.
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Thanks for all your replys. I'll contact the Northumberland co-ordinator on FreeREG. I'll let you know how I get on.
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Today I looked at the microfilm of the original parish register and can confirm that the freereg entry is accurate. The original entry says -
'29 Mar 1764 Edward Tindal the elder of Brockdam'
Christine
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Thaks for that Christine. Could I ask what year the Ellingham Parish register that holds that particular record begins and is there any online access to it? I've seen other transcripts of parish records for Ellingham, but none that contained the particular entry in question.
John
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The transcribed dates shown for Ellingham on FreeREG are:
Baptisms 1695-1797 Marriages 1695-1804 Burials 1695-1819
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Hi Rosie
I was talking about this recently
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=711313.msg5548699#msg5548699
Hopefully that link will show up okay and answer the original question:-)
Boo
I think it is possible that on freereg the description of source is under the Classification Church
eg
Place Ellingham
Church St. Maurice Tr
Tr meaning transcript.
I am sure there was a post on rootschat where this was mentioned recently.
Rosie
off to have another look for the post ;D
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Sorry, John, I have no idea what years are covered by the register I was looking at. I simply find which microfilm covers the event and year I'm looking for, whizz through till I find it, then put it back in the draw! I could try to find out. To my knowledge there are no original Northumberland parish records online though some of the Bishop's transcripts are available - sadly not Ellingham.
As for transcripts - the guys on here have said that this record is available on find my past (though not in full) and also on freereg where it is complete.
Christine
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Many thanks for the information Christine.
John
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I have the same transcript as was probably used for FreeReg as the dates covered are the same. The transcript was made in 1905 by CGB Cresswell
Janis