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Title: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: amandar on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:10 GMT (UK)
Hi,

Looking for Abraham Ingram in census records. Wife was a Margaret and children Catherine born circa 1850, Thomas, Mary, Abraham,Richard, Elizabeth, William,Samuel.

Any help much appreciated

Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:16 GMT (UK)
Where did Abrahams year and place of birth come from?

Where was Catherine (and the others) born? What is the source of her year of birth?

What else do you know about Margaret?

Presumably you are sure Abraham lived till census time, if he was still fathering children around 1850!

More details on what you already have would help - especially on how you have found it if you haven't got censuses!
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:20 GMT (UK)
Aha - success! I have found them on 1851

Princes Road, Tipton, Staffs
Abraham Ingram 40 Iron Caster bn Tipton
Margaret 38 bn Sedgely
Thomas 15
Mary 13
Abraham 11
Richard 8
Elizabeth 6
William 3
Catherine 6 mths    children all bn Sedgley
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: amandar on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:27 GMT (UK)
Thank you,

Catherine married in Joseph Tallett even though on records says Tallit  15/03/1869 Sedgely Parish Church, Lower Gornal, Staffordshire, Father name given Abraham.  On Family seach

Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:30 GMT (UK)
Catherine married in Joseph Tallett even though on records says Tallit  15/03/1869 Sedgely Parish Church, Lower Gornal, Staffordshire, Father name given Abraham.  On Family seach

This wouldn't give Abrahams year or place of birth.
Which, according to the one census, is around 1811 in Tipton.
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: amandar on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:38 GMT (UK)
Have got alot of information of family search site have found an Abraham 1841 census age 30. District of Sedgley, Staffordshire. Can you look at this one
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:43 GMT (UK)
1841
Upper Princes Rd, Sedgely

Abraham Ingram 30 Moulder Y
Margaret 25 Y
Thomas 5 Y
MAry 3 Y
Abraham 1 Y

Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: amandar on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:48 GMT (UK)
thank you. so it looks like Abraham is born circa 1811 then.  Can you find a marriage to Margaret?

Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: amandar on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:51 GMT (UK)
Can you find the family in 1871 census  :D
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: DMP on Tuesday 27 January 15 16:57 GMT (UK)
Hi
Free reg has the marriage

Sedgley
All Saints
22 May 1837
Abraham
INGRAM

Margaretta
HOLMES
Spinster
Witness
Thomas HOWELL
Mary HOWELL
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 27 January 15 17:00 GMT (UK)
Here is 1861 to start with

Swan Street, Kingswinford
Abraham 50 labourer bn Tipton
Margaret 45 bn Wensbery
Thomas 24
Mary 23
Abraham 19
Richard 17
ELizabeth 16
William 12
Catherine 9
Samuel 5
John 4
MArtha 3     allchildren bn Tipton
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 27 January 15 17:04 GMT (UK)
1871
New Street Kinswinford
Thomas Ingram 34 Puddler
Abraham 61 father bn Sedgely
Margaret 57 mother bn Wednesbury
Richard 27 brother
Samuel 16 brother
John 15 brother
MArtha 13 sister   all bn Sedgely
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: amandar on Tuesday 27 January 15 17:26 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thank you.  looking at 1881 census Catherine Tallett (nee Ingram) living at Swan Street in 1881 with husband Joseph Tallett and children. Didn't move far.

Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: amandar on Tuesday 27 January 15 17:42 GMT (UK)
Hi
   
Margaret Holmes christening 07 Sep 1817
SAINT BARTHOLOMEW,WEDNESBURY,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
fathers name Richard Holmes and mothers name Mary.

do you think this could be Mary Holmes who married Abraham Ingram. One census records does mention she was born Wednesbury?

Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: lizdb on Tuesday 27 January 15 21:25 GMT (UK)
Highly possible.

But cant say for sure just seeing that in isolation. Often in families there are cousins etc with the same names born in the same place in the same era.
But if that is the ONLY Margaret Holmes in Wednesbury, then it must be her!
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: amandar on Tuesday 27 January 15 21:52 GMT (UK)
Have found a Martha Holmes  christening 11/11/1814 in Wednesbury with same parents on family search
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 28 January 15 11:40 GMT (UK)
1871 New Street Pensnett

Thomas Ingram 34 head b Sedgkey puddler
Abraham Ingram 64 father b Sedgley labourer
Margaret Ingram 57 mother b Wednesbury
Richard Ingram 27 brother b Sedgley laborer
Samuel Ingram 16 brother b Sedgley
John Ingram 15 brother b Sedgley
Martha Ingram 13 sister b Sedgley

RG10/3027/5/7

If you look on FreeREG http://www.freereg.org.uk/cgi/Search.pl there is Abrahams marriage plus one of the childrens baptisms there is also a possible baptism for Abraham if he was born 1803

Willow x
Title: Re: Abraham Ingram born circa 1803 Sedgeley, Staffordshire - in census records
Post by: lizdb on Wednesday 28 January 15 17:06 GMT (UK)
All the censuses point to a later birth for him. He is reasonably consistent with his age.