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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Pennines on Tuesday 27 January 15 14:40 GMT (UK)
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Does anyone know whether there are any MIs (or grave registers -- as opposed to burial registers) --- available to purchase, for Mirfield please?
many thanks
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I have seen Mirfield MIs but they where on the Kirkheaton online parish site which is no longer running. The Huddersfield Local history library might have a copy.
Regards
John
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Thank you John. I will get in touch with that Society.
Regards
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Hi
It was not a Society, Kirkheaton online parish was an independent site which could not compete with the larger ones and the site was pulled.
The MIs came from someone else who was independent so I don't know if they have been passed on or not.
The Mis in the Huddersfield Local History Library are your best chance but they are from an earlier survey & I cannot recall if they are complete or not.
Regards
John
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Hi John,
I meant I would get in touch with Huddersfield Family History Society. There are none listed amongst their publications -- but they may have something in their 'Library' -- possibly on Fiche or something.
I did check Kirklees Archives, but couldn't see anything in their catalogue -- although I discovered that they have Churchwardens accounts, Vestry minutes, Poor Law records etc for Mirfield --- that was a bonus -- may need to find a researcher in the area, so I am now 'on the case'!
Thank you again for responding to my query. It's got me moving!
It's worth a try!
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Hi
The Archives is different to the Local History although a lot of the records on the Local History are part of the Archives and not all are list on the catalogue.
You could give the Huddersfield Local History department a call or send them an email to see if they have them, they were kept in the files next to the door into the Archives office.
Regards
John
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Thank you John --- local knowledge can be so helpful to 'outsiders'.
Regards
June
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Hi,
I am currently working on a project to publish a full survey of St Mary's Mirfield burials (26,000) including all recorded MIs and those extant. An interim version should be on the site www.kirkheaton.info within the next couple of months but if you require something urgently pm me at mail@kirkheaton.info
Richard
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Oh that's great Richard. Thank you for all your hard work. I have bookmarked the site to keep checking.
I did email Huddersfield Family History Society to ask them -- but was disappointed not to receive any reply.
Thank you for letting me know.
Regards
June
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OK June but if you need any specific info. now I will be happy to help out.
Richard
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That is SUCH a kind offer Richard -- thank you. It isn't anything specific though -- I simply wanted to browse through to see if any of my ancestors from Mirfield had gravestones with legible MIs. I had several families in Mirfield.
To be honest - I doubt there will be any as they would be early 1800s so if gravestones ever existed at all - they might not do so now.
Regards June
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Fortunately there is a late 19C transcription of the 'Old Ground' MIs which I have included in the database and also I have a plan of this area so have shown the locations as well. Some of these MIs have been left so it is possible to judge roughly where the others would have been when paying a visit.
If you wish to follow this up send an e-mail to mail@kirkheaton.info
Richard
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You are an absolute star! It seems ages since I raised this query - and never expected to hear anything more about it - so this is a wonderful surprise.
June
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The original 1880 with dairy, Mirfield MI's are held on micro film at Claremont Archaeological Society; Leeds, Yorkshire, England.
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/158104?availability=Family%20History%20Library
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Thank you Dobfarm --- I see from your link that they are on Microfilm there.
Why did I never think of checking Family Search!
Regards June
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Sometimes the MI's recorded I 18th/19th century have epitaphs that are unreadable now, hence the mention of them. CC4 (Richard) info sounds awesome though. :)
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Claremont is only open for lectures at the moment, no search inquires available.
https://www.yas.org.uk
Brian
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Thank you Dobfarm and Calverley Lad -- as always, you are very helpful.
(In joking mood - may I just say, Dobfarm - that the word 'awesome' - doesn't quite 'go' with typical Yorkshire lingo!) I even found myself pronouncing it in an American accent in my head.
I can't think of a Yorkshire term for it though - 'gradely' maybe?
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To confirm the situation at Claremont. Yorkshire Archaeological Society
https://www.yas.org.uk/content/archives.html
From 1 October 2014 the Archives will be closed.
We are currently preparing our archive collections for transfer to the University of Leeds Special Collections. Regrettably, we are not able to answer any enquiries, undertake research and copy orders, or provide archive appointments. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.
We plan that our archive collections will become accessible again in 2016 through the University of Leeds. Details of how to access YAS collections at the University of Leeds will be available later this year on our website.
Brian
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Just for ref Huddersfield University has its own Library and Archive now - local history and family history. Awesome
http://welcome.hud.ac.uk/documents/localandfamilyhistoryguidev1WEB.swf
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Yes -- isn't this Kirklees Archives.
I discovered that a whole lot of old Parish records -- NOT registers, were stored here for Mirfield. Churchwardens accounts, Guardians records etc etc and employed a Professional Researcher to speed read them picking out any Illingworth records. (Also to check if MIs were there, which they weren't).
Cost me good money, but it was worth it to me in view of the time I would have spent travelling backwards and forwards and the sheer number of separate sets of records held.
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Well there is WYAS Kirklees archives with the public library building and Huddersfield (Kirklees) Uni buildings Library/Archives
Illingworth - some MI's are outside the St Mary church on stone slabs stacked on top of one one another or in the steps half hidden. ;D
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Pennines: If it's any help, I have a book (in PDF format) containing Mirfield Registers from ancient 1500's to 1756.
Brian
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Hi Brian,
Everybody on this Board is so very kind and helpful.
However I am such a 'nerd' that I have purchased, or have access to, the Mirfield (and every other parish I need!) -- registers. It's the other types of records that give me problems with not living in the area.
But thank you Brian -- and if I can ever help anyone with Lancashire records, please don't hesitate to ask. I would like to repay all your kindness if I can.
Regards June
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My Great Great Great Granduncle (Thomas Nevin) was a curate at Mirfield in the 1860's and 1870's
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I have a lot of Mirfield ancestors, many found from spending hours reading back through two centuries of parish records on Ancestry! Interesting to hear of these other resources, thanks to those who have shared them. :-)
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Hello Pennines,
The Huddersfield & District Family History Society have a VERY extensive collection of records on Fiche - far more than those published as booklets. Why not give them a ring. Their opening hours are on their website.
Tra La La
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Thank you Tra La La,
I am a member of Huddersfield FHS --- I did email them to enquire about MIs -- but never received any reply (most disappointing I thought!)
It is MIs I am particularly interested in --- and in an earlier post Richard has indicated that these are being worked on and will appear on the www.kirkheaton.info site in due course --- which is fabulous news.
Regards
Pennines
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Hello again Pennines,
Why not just phone up the church and ask where you can access the Memorial Inscriptions? By googling the first entry gave the phone number. I can only think of one book of Memorial Inscriptions published by HDFHS, and that was for a Colne Valley graveyard.
Do let us know if you receive an answer - I would be interested in the inscription for Agnes Wheatley who is buried at Mirfield St Mary.
Happy hunting
Tra La La
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Thank you Tra La La -- that's a good idea, but as I now know the MIs are to be included on the website mentioned by Richard - I would rather not trouble the church.
I'll be patient (for a change!).
You might want to look at the posting from cc4 on 17th June in this thread --- I have bookmarked the website Richard has given in that post, to keep checking it - as I have several families I want to look for.
Regards Pennines
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Hi Pennines- Sorry to hear that you did not receive a response from The Huddersfield and District Family History Society re the Mirfield MIs. As a committee member I will look into this if you can give me the date and format of your enquiry. We have a system of logging all enquiries in our message book and then ticking them off when dealt with.I would like to find out what went wrong so that it cannot happen again.- Thanks Steve43
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Thank you so much Steve. I appreciate you responding to this.
It was a few months ago - but I will try and find it and send you a personal message.
I notice though that this is your first message - not sure if you can receive personal messages until you've posted 3 on the normal Forum. Perhaps someone who sees this could kindly advise on that please.
Many thanks
Pennines
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Just to let you know that I have uploaded the first version of the Mirfield St Mary's spreadsheet / database which contains all known MIs (including photos of those which still can be found) plus 26,000 burial details to www.kirkheaton.info
Please note that the original burial registers which have been scanned for a certain commercial site are not in full chronological order. To compile the spreadsheet the interment books have been used as well as the burial registers and this has allowed the order problem to be fixed plus there are plans locating the MIs within the churchyard.
Hope this helps and PLEASE provide feedback via the site if possible.
Richard
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Thanks Pennines- I will be away on holiday for a couple of weeks now but will investigate the problem when I return if you can get the date.-
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Steve -- I sent the email to the Society on 28 Jan 2015. I am sending you a private message.
Regards Pennines
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Richard --- thank you so very much for letting us know about your progress uploading Mirfield MIs. I am very grateful for all your hard work - and I am sure others will be also. You are a little star!
I will look at the site and give you any feedback as requested.
Regards Pennines
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Thank you so much Richard, I shall take a good look at the site tomorrow. :-)