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Title: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: escollay on Sunday 25 January 15 19:55 GMT (UK)
I have recently learnt that I have Italian ancestry. Ancestors who I previously believed to be Irish actually had their Italian name anglicised. I am looking help or to be pointed in the right direction to further my research. So far this is what I have to go on:

Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Appears in 1871 Scottish census living with wife Ann & sons Laurence and John (listed as being born in Ireland).
Name anglicised to Bonnon and then Bannon.
Sons moved to Belfast with John later returning to Glasgow.

I would love to be able to pinpoint where Dominick originally came from and when he arrived in Scotland/Ireland. 
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Sunday 25 January 15 20:06 GMT (UK)
Hello,
Do you have any marriage details? Ann's maiden name?

Doesn't look as though you have 1881 census.
Greenock

Dominique Bonino 52 yrs
John Bonino 17 yrs b Dublin
Steven Rogan 12 yrs nephew

Heywood
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: jaywit on Sunday 25 January 15 20:08 GMT (UK)
I would start with this website.

http://www.anglo-italianfhs.org.uk/
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: escollay on Sunday 25 January 15 20:13 GMT (UK)
Thanks Heywood

I have been looking through the previous census's but I have been having trouble as the surname keeps changing. Unfortunately I have not been able to locate a marriage certificate although if John is listed as being born in Dublin, that is a good place to start.

Thanks Jaywit, I shall check it out
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Sunday 25 January 15 20:26 GMT (UK)
I was thinking that if you could trace a marriage, you could maybe get his father's name.
Civil registration did not begin until 1864 so John may/ not be included.
The info I transcribed only came from indexes rather than the actual census. Therefore, spellings may not be correct.
1891 shows a Stephen Regan born abt 1872, Dublin, lodging on Greenock. The age is out slightly. :-\
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Sunday 25 January 15 20:52 GMT (UK)
I was thinking you said that Dominic moved to Belfast but just read your post again.
If he died in Scotland, there will be quite a bit of information on the death certificate- should be place of birth and parents names.
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: escollay on Sunday 25 January 15 21:20 GMT (UK)
I was thinking you said that Dominic moved to Belfast but just read your post again.
If he died in Scotland, there will be quite a bit of information on the death certificate- should be place of birth and parents names.

He did die in Scotland, but I have been unable to find his death certificate  >:( But I know that there definitely is one, as I have spoke to a relative that has seen it and confirmed it is signed by his son John (who returned from Belfast to work for Dominick). I've hunted Scotlands people but I'm coming up with nothing...
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: escollay on Sunday 25 January 15 21:28 GMT (UK)
I actually just found it...
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Sunday 25 January 15 21:30 GMT (UK)
I actually just found it...

That's great! Hope it helps.

Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: escollay on Sunday 25 January 15 21:51 GMT (UK)
Dominico Bonino
Died 18th January 1903

Father Laurence Bonino
Mother Not Listed
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Sunday 25 January 15 22:32 GMT (UK)
Oh that's disappointing but at least you have dad and the family name fits.
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Sunday 25 January 15 22:40 GMT (UK)
He should be in 1901 census then  :-\

In the indexes, there is a Dominico Bonini but he is only 34 yrs living with his brother Peter 38 yrs in Largs, Ayrshire.

Where did your Dominico die?
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: escollay on Monday 23 February 15 14:44 GMT (UK)
He died in 2 Baird Street, Govan, Glasgow. I have found an Alien entry which I think his him in 1841, but it tells me very little information.
 
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 February 15 10:33 GMT (UK)
Where does the information re Caserta cone from? Is it verified?
Do you have Ann's death? Her maiden name may help re marriage details.
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: escollay on Tuesday 24 February 15 10:35 GMT (UK)
Where does the information re Caserta cone from? Is it verified?
Do you have Ann's death? Her maiden name may help re marriage details.

Caserta has come from a family member, so it isn't solid.

I have located the church marriage record, Ann's maiden name was Regan and they were married in Dublin
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 February 15 10:54 GMT (UK)
So that is the connection to Stephen Regan.
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: escollay on Tuesday 24 February 15 10:59 GMT (UK)
Yeah Stephen's father John married a Letita Lazaroni. The Lazaroni's were figure makers, which is what Domenico Bonino is listed as in 1842 Alien Entry form. Makes me think this is the right person, but that is all the information included on it
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 February 15 11:15 GMT (UK)
Yes I saw the Lazaroni connection previously. I think her sister married a James or John Martin.
It's a pity that there is no evidence of your Dominic in their church records.
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 February 15 11:25 GMT (UK)
I think I found John's baptism after all. Do you have it?
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry
Post by: escollay on Tuesday 24 February 15 11:26 GMT (UK)
I have a baptism record just from Dublin - for 6th July 1864 ?
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 February 15 11:34 GMT (UK)
Yes, that's the one.

Plus this one:
SS. Michael and John, Dublin.
Baptism of Maria Louisa Bonnie of 8 Great Longford Street -31 January 1860 born 26th January
Father   Domisicus Bonnie
Mother   Anna Regan
26 January 1860
Sponsor 1   Joannes Regan
Sponsor 2   Margaretta Ryan

According to 1862 street directory, the address was a tenement. http://www.libraryireland.com/Dublin-Street-Directory-1862/101.php
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: escollay on Tuesday 24 February 15 11:36 GMT (UK)
Yeah thats it.

Its tough trying to find them, theres so many variants of the spelling
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: escollay on Tuesday 24 February 15 12:14 GMT (UK)
Yes, that's the one.

Plus this one:
SS. Michael and John, Dublin.
Baptism of Maria Louisa Bonnie of 8 Great Longford Street -31 January 1860 born 26th January
Father   Domisicus Bonnie
Mother   Anna Regan
26 January 1860
Sponsor 1   Joannes Regan
Sponsor 2   Margaretta Ryan

According to 1862 street directory, the address was a tenement. http://www.libraryireland.com/Dublin-Street-Directory-1862/101.php

What site did you get the record off?
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: heywood on Tuesday 24 February 15 14:32 GMT (UK)
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/

Go to church records
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: mariakatira on Tuesday 12 May 15 15:29 BST (UK)
Hey Eoin,

My grandmother is Rosie Rice and my x2 Great Grandmother is Roseann Bannon. As far as im aware these are the same Bannons that you were searching. I was just wondering how far you were able to get back on the Bannon side and would you be able to pass on any documents...information that you discovered.
Many Thanks
Maria Mc Atamney
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: escollay on Tuesday 12 May 15 15:45 BST (UK)
Hey Eoin,

My grandmother is Rosie Rice and my x2 Great Grandmother is Roseann Bannon. As far as im aware these are the same Bannons that you were searching. I was just wondering how far you were able to get back on the Bannon side and would you be able to pass on any documents...information that you discovered.
Many Thanks
Maria Mc Atamney

Hi Maria

Yes these are the same, you probably know that I'm Elizabeth's (née Donaghy) son. I have quite a lot of information on the Bannons - all very interesting and a few surprises!

What is your email address?
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: mariakatira on Wednesday 13 May 15 09:30 BST (UK)
yes thats what I thought!

eeeeek excited!!!!lol

Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: sarah on Wednesday 13 May 15 16:26 BST (UK)
If you do wish to exchange email addresses please use the private message function  :)

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Italian Ancestry Dominick Bonnina b1830 in Italy. (I have been told Caserta)
Post by: Bannon07 on Sunday 19 December 21 21:21 GMT (UK)
My name is Paul Bannon, my father was Dr Dominic Bannon 1929-1999 his father was Dominic Bannon 1906-1988 all born in belfast. They originally came from Caserta in Italy. Laurenzo was born in 1830 and arrived in Dublin and moved to Glasgow where he died in 1903. He was a Moulder by trade and had an ice cream shop in Glasgow when he died.His son Dominic died in the workhouse on Belfast’s Lisburn Road. His son married a girl called Roseanne Cheverini and her father was a musician.
The name Changed from Bonino, to Bonnon ( an x mark on a wedding cert) then to Bannon. There are many Bannon’s in Belfast. My Great Grandfather was an upholsterer and had a successful business. His son Dominic started a furniture business in 1935 which closed a few years back. The photo was taken mid 1930’s. My Great Granfather is wearing the bowler hat with his arm around his wife. My Grandfather is on the extreme right.
Paul Bannon