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Title: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: lynsmum on Sunday 25 January 15 09:36 GMT (UK)
John b: 2/9/1846 is the Australian born son of Charles Tawse BRUCE who was born in Scotland.

Some years previously I found an entry via World Family Tree stating he died c. 1936.  Unfortunately the submitter was anonymous so I am curious what proof the submitter had.
I would love to solve this mystery.
Thanks.
Michele in Sydney
Title: Re: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 25 January 15 11:18 GMT (UK)
Hi lynsmum,

This may be of interest to those trying to assist.

It is an inquiry elsewhere about the chap with possibly helpful extra information

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/GENANZ/1998-02/0886568914

Sue
Title: Re: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: whiteout7 on Thursday 29 January 15 08:53 GMT (UK)
No sign of John Dunmore Lang Bruce in deaths between 1930-1940 in NZ (or anything remotely close)

Amelia Jane Bruce (possible marriage in the NZ bdm (if it is the correct lady) 1871 to George Adams she would be aged 32.

I notice in the IGI he is "John Dimmore Lang Bruce" born 1846 to Charles Bruce and
Jane Davis in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Title: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: lynsmum on Thursday 29 January 15 09:16 GMT (UK)
Being looking for him for nearly 21 years.
He never went with the family to N.Z.
Where is he hiding?
Yes, Amelia is the correct daughter.
The 1998 Genanz archiver - Anthea is my husband's relative.
Thanks for your responses.
Lynsmum
Title: Re: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: whiteout7 on Friday 30 January 15 06:20 GMT (UK)
So Charles and Jane Bruce died in New Zealand?

"Jane Bruce relict of Charles, March 22,  1891 aged 73 years died at Ponsonby, Auckland, New Zealand"

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH18910323.2.3&srpos=2&e=-------10--1----0Jane+Bruce--

Do you know where Jane and Charles are buried, they are not at Purwera

1891/228   Bruce    Jane    73Y (NZbdm)
Title: Re: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: whiteout7 on Friday 30 January 15 06:25 GMT (UK)
Now this is interesting

Archibald Bruce, youngest son of Charles and Jane Bruce to Louise Hare (Only daughter to Walter and Harriet Hare), November 9, 1877.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&cl=search&d=NZH19271109.2.2.3&srpos=14&e=-------10--11----0Jane+Bruce--

Have you got the family on a shipping list to prove which family members came out to New Zealand? If not maybe the New Zealand Board can help
Title: Re: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: whiteout7 on Friday 30 January 15 07:35 GMT (UK)
Family tree circles "Louisa Beatright Hare - married Archibald Daldy Bruce in 1877"

BRUCE, Archibold Daldy
BRUCE- HARR.- On November 9, at the residence of the bride's father, by the Rev. R F. Macolcol, Archibald Daldy Bruce to Louisa Boartright Hare
http://www.aucklandcity.govt.nz/dbtw-wpd/exec/dbtwpub.dll?BU=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aucklandcity.govt.nz%2Fdbtw-wpd%2Fnzcardindex%2Fsearch.htm&AC=QBE_QUERY&TN=NZcardindex&QF0=unique_record_id&NP=2&RF=Display+card+info&QI0=NZCI000056411

Archibald Bruce seems to have a middle name of Daldy (There is a person on Ancestry with a photograph of this couple)
Title: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: lynsmum on Friday 30 January 15 11:13 GMT (UK)
Archibald BRUCE (b: 4/7/1845 Sydney) d: 30/5/1854 at Wellesley St. Auckland 3rd son of Charles Bruce in "Daily Southern Cross" 9/6/1854 p2.
Albert b: 1847 Sydney d: 4/3/1927 Thames NZ
Charles & Jane BRUCE buried at Symond St. Cemetery Auckland.

"New Zealander" 1/12/1849 p2 newspaper "Susan" arrived 28/11/1849 with Mrs. Bruce & 6 children.

William BRUCE b: 4/6/1843 Sydney .... too many deaths which is he!
Sarah Ann THOMAS b: 10/3/1851 Sydney m: Henry Thomas 1886 - alive 1902  d: 1930 which I both found on Papers Past but had Benjamin as her husband & 1935 had a Stanley H. which isn't her child.

Many thanks for your assistance.
Lynsmum
Title: Re: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: whiteout7 on Saturday 31 January 15 02:42 GMT (UK)
Buried at Purewa Cemetary John Bruce, aged 58 on 08 Nov 1904 so this man was born 1846.

Nzbdm - 1904/6300   Bruce John 58Y
https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/Search/Search.aspx?Path=%2fqueryEntry.m%3ftype%3ddeaths#SearchResults

(I think this is John Dunmore Lang Bruce but to confirm someone would need to order a death printout)
http://www.purewa.co.nz/details.asp?id=42520&type=Burial

Have you ruled this man out?
Title: John Dunmore Lang BRUCE
Post by: lynsmum on Saturday 31 January 15 06:57 GMT (UK)
Found his D/N in "Auckland Star" 10/11/1904.  Cause of death: Phthisis. B: Kings Co. Ireland. M: 1899 to PEARMAN, Catherine Sarah.  Gut feeling it's not him.
Thanks for the info.
Lynsmum