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Title: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: Oscella on Thursday 22 January 15 04:41 GMT (UK)
I was wondering if anyone who is visiting the Public Record Office would be kind enough to consult the microfilm copies of the Teacher Record Books for Ellen Cochrane, Teacher Record Number 12301 who was appointed to Bruthen in 1909, see
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/91883980?searchTerm=%22cochrane%22&searchLimits=l-state=Victoria
Her date of birth and place of birth if possible would be useful also appointments before/after Bruthen. Trying to eliminate her from another Cochrane family in Bruthen - all the names show up together on the 1909 Census record.

Many thanks in advance if someone has the time and energy to pursue this.
Oscella
Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: judb on Thursday 22 January 15 07:36 GMT (UK)
This doesn't answer your question but may be helpful to build on:

In 1909 Ellen is enrolled to vote and has no second forename listed.

1914 at Bailey St, Clunes
Ellen COCHRANE, school teacher

1919 at 18 Lyons St south, Ballarat
Ellen COCHRANE, S S teacher (S S probably = State School)

1931 at 7 Park St, Ivanhoe
Ellen COCHRANE, school teacher

1942 at 409 Burwood Rd, Hawthorn
Ellen COCHRANE, home duties

1949 at 44 Mathoura Rd, South Yarra
Ellen COCHRANE, home duties

1958 at 37 Illawarra St, Williamstown
Ellen COCHRANE, home duties

1963 at 26 Dudley St, Eltham
Ellen COCHRANE, nil occupation

1963, 1968, 1972 at 8 a'Beckett St, Kew
Ellen COCHRANE, home duties

I do not see her after that - my access goes to 1980.  There are no others of the same surname at any of her addresses after 1909.  The other women listed all have a second forename.

Given that she seems to be a spinster, living in Kew, with no further electoral roll entries after 1972 perhaps this is her death

Victoria, 1973, # 19782
DEATH PLACE:   Kew, Victoria
Ellen COCHRANE, 99
Father: David; Mother: Ann Carmichael

Please Note - this would need to be verified, speculation only!

Judith





Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 22 January 15 07:43 GMT (UK)
Given that she seems to be a spinster, living in Kew, with no further electoral roll entries after 1972 perhaps this is her death

Victoria, 1973, # 19782
DEATH PLACE:   Kew, Victoria
Ellen COCHRANE, 99
Father: David; Mother: Ann Carmichael

Please Note - this would need to be verified, speculation only!

This Ellen COCHRANE is buried at Springvale Botanical Cemetery with Andrew COCHRANE 28/07/1944 & Andrew Keith Carmichael COCHRANE 23/07/2010:

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01elr/

Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 22 January 15 07:47 GMT (UK)
Death:

Andrew COCHRANE 73yrs d. 1944 PRESTON #7384
Father: David COCHRANE
Mother: Ann CARMICHAEL

Birth:

Andrew COCHRANE b. 1870 CARN #21830
Father: David
Mother: Ann CARMICHAEL



Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: judb on Thursday 22 January 15 07:49 GMT (UK)
The Andrew COCHRANE, died 1944 is a brother of Ellen COCHRANE (who we are not yet sure is the correct person)
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/page/629470

Judith
Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 22 January 15 07:57 GMT (UK)
Birth:

Ellen COCHRAN b. 1873 SMYTHESDAL #27159
Father: David
Mother: Ann CARMICHAEL
Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 22 January 15 08:08 GMT (UK)
Deaths:

Ann COCHRANE 75yrs d.1920 BEAUFORT #13066
Father: Jno CARMICHAEL
Mother: Ann HUTTON

David COCHRANE 80yrs d. 1919 BEAUFORT #10520
Father: Jas COCHRANE
Mother: Ellen MILLAR

Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 22 January 15 08:12 GMT (UK)
Previous related thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=671315.0
Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: judb on Thursday 22 January 15 08:20 GMT (UK)
TROVE mentions:

Death of Ann COCHRANE, 31 October, 1920
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4574019

death of David COCHRANE, August, 1919
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4698828
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4698009

Judith
Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: cando on Thursday 22 January 15 09:02 GMT (UK)
Just deleted my long post :)

Only adding...

PROV Teacher Index is not functioning at the moment.  No results even for my mother!

This is possibly brother and sister....

1942
COCHRANE Andrew  36 Riddell Street, Elsternwick  Teacher
COCHRANE Ellen  36 Riddell Street, Elsternwick  HD

Cando
Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 22 January 15 09:12 GMT (UK)
Index to Wills, Probate and Administration Records:

Ellen COCHRANE Spinster, Kew, 14 Aug 1973 #760/074

Andrew COCHRANE Ex Teacher, Williamstown, 28 Jul 1944 #356/587

http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 22 January 15 09:14 GMT (UK)
Index to Teacher Record Books:

Ellen COCHRANE #12301

Andrew COCHRANE #10605

http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=38
Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: cando on Thursday 22 January 15 09:16 GMT (UK)
Wills Index at PROV now functioning.  I have been receiving a notice that it was a server problem. I was hoping her occupation would have been retired school teacher ;)

COCHRANE Ellen  Spinster  Kew 14 Aug 1973
760/074 VPRS 28/P6, unit 464;
VPRS 7591/P4, unit 373

The teacher record will need to be ordered prior to anyone visiting PROV reading rooms to view.

Copying guide
http://prov.vic.gov.au/provguide-2

Cando
Title: Re: Ellen COCHRANE, teacher, 1909 Bruthen, Victoria
Post by: Oscella on Monday 26 January 15 04:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks one and all. Ellen LOOKS to be a red herring but it would be confirmed by having her date of birth from the teacher records. If no one is going that way, I might get there in October when we dash through Melbourne en route to Ballarat.