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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: spartans on Saturday 10 January 15 12:25 GMT (UK)
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can someone please help, i have inquest report of the above named, in Gloucester Citizen, she was a widow,i cannot find out her husband name, or when they were married, grateful for any help.
Terry
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Have you checked the 1911 census for her? If she was a widow at that time it will at least give you sufficient info about her to work backwards.
Have you looked for her on the 1871 or 1881 censuses both of which are free here
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list?page=1®ion=UNITED_KINGDOM_IRELAND
You presumably have more info about her than you have given here??
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This Emma Jane Groves was she a grocer ? as she is in the 1881/1891 with her husband William Groves born 1844 Wilton Hereford his occupation is railway porter ...By 1901 /11 Emma's occupation is grocer ...they seemed to have been at the same address Llanthony Cottages /road South Hamlet Gloucester ...There is a death for a William Groves 1899 birth year 1844 age 55 in Gloucester ...Will have a look and see if we can find a marriage
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Hi Rosie,thank's for reply,Emma was a grocer, going by the inquest report.
Thanks Very Much Terry
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I Can't seem to find a marriage for her ??? ???
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Hi Rosie - I checked them up earlier after reading the article. I couldn't find a suitable marriage either, so gave up :-\
This is a possible
Sept q, 1889, Woverhampton, 6b 799
Emma Jane Hancher and William Groves on same page
Gadget
Added - don't think so - this one was b. Wolverhampton :(
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Two others, it could be a second marriage so her maiden name might be different!
March 1879 Ledbury 6a 589
Emma Sheen and William Groves on same page
June q, 1884, Bristol 6a 25
Emma Brothers and William Groves on same page
Would it be worth following up the relative, mentioned in the article
Gadget
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They seem to be in Breden Gloucestershire in 1871, and William at home in Ross on Wye in 1861,
Remote possibility
William groves to Emma hastings July 1866. Bishops Ryder Birmingham
Mike
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Hi Gadget like you I was wondering if this was her second marriage as going by the later census she said she had been married 35years ...So that would make her about 37 years and a marriage in 1876 ?
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I'll see if I can find the article again, Rosie, and find out the name of the relative who was living with her - it could be a lead.
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Her niece's name was Mrs Brooks, a widow, who had lived with Emma Jane for 3 years. Might be worth following her backwards. I'm away for a few hours now so won't have time to look.
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A bit of a task ??? without a first name she was not with her in 1911 ???
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Hi Gadget like you I was wondering if this was her second marriage as going by the later census she said she had been married 35years ...So that would make her about 37 years and a marriage in 1876 ?
Or did she mean she had been married 35 years and widowed for 10 years, marriage 1866.
Mike
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Hard to say Mike I did see that census in 1871 but was not very sure ??? ??? Not sure if her death certificate would have parent's names
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Was he a railway porter in 1871, if so he most likely worked for the midland railway, some records are on A, may say where he joined.
Mike
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Just found the 1871 census transcribed as Groce on Ancestry Groves on family search
William Groce b 1844 Wilton Bridstow Herefordshire age 27 occupation sawyer
Emma Groce b 1838 Gloucestershire age33 sawyer's wife
There is a baptism for a William Groves 18 June 1843 at Bridstow
Parent's William & Harriet Groves
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This is the marriage for William Groves to Emma Hastings don't think this is them
William Groves age 23 occupation gun screwer ? father Thomas Groves blacksmith
Emma Hastings age 22 spinster father John Hastings ..gas fitter
Witnesses John & Matilda Hastings
Married 9July 1866 Birmingham Bishop Ryder Warwickshire
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Agree it doesn't look like the correct marriage, back to square one,
I think he is the right William, the birthplace is very definite, but is she EmmaJane?.
She is six years older than him, never seen any children for them, and says she was born in Gloucestershire,
But bridstw/ Wilton is very close to the border with Gloucestershire and the Forest of Dean.
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Yes it's a bit of a mystery Railway records for William Residence date from 1874 to 1892 then underneath it says deceased August 1898 Gives a birth date of 23/5/1843 which could tie in with the baptism date ...Station Gloucester