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Research in Other Countries => Other Countries => Topic started by: odbsmith on Wednesday 07 January 15 09:29 GMT (UK)
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Patrick Thomas Gateley (b1855) and Constance Sarah Annie Ravenscroft Scrivener (b1876) married in 1907 in Calcutta India. I cannot find a death for either of them. Does anyone have them in their tree?
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I came across this post while researching the descendants of the 4xGGF George Ravenscroft (1765-1829) Constance is my 2nd cousin 3x removed hence why, I have this couple in my tree.
You might well have this information already, I believe that Patrick died in India in the 1930's.
What is your connection to the family?
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Hi, my husbands foster father was married Constance and Patrick's daughter Barbara and I went to school with Barbara's daughter.
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Did they have a daughter Norah P born 1910 married 1948 to Charles E Ellington?
Was daughter Barbara F b 1908 and married 1929 to Frederick George Findley? Barbara F Findley died 1964 Devon & Frederick 1980
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Yes they did.
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Constance and Norah are on the 1939 register - have you seen the entry?
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Yes I have
I think Constance died in Birmingham in 1945
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Was daughter Barbara F b 1908 and marry 1929 to Frederick George Findley? Barbara F Findley died 1964 Devon & Frederick 1980
I am not 100% sure, I want to order the probate file for Barbara Frances Findley as I find it odd that her full name is not quoted on the portal. i.e. Ravenscroft is missing.
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Hi, my husbands foster father was married Constance and Patrick's daughter Barbara and I went to school with Barbara's daughter.
Was Barbara's daughter Baraba Laura and did she marry a Bird?
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Name: Barbara Frances Ravenscroft Gateley
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1908
Baptism Date: 17 May 1908
Baptism Place: Christ Church, Crouch End, Haringey, England
Father: Patrick Thomas Gateley railway traffic inspector
Mother: Constance Sarah Annie Ravenscroft Gateley
Births June qtr 1908
Gateley Barbara Frances R Edmonton 3a 488
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Norah was not born in England as there is no birth reg for her in 1910 and no entries with mmn Scrivener apart from Barbara
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Thanks, I didn't I have her baptism.
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Norah was not born in England as there is no birth reg for her in 1910 and no entries with mmn Scrivener apart from Barbara
I believe she was born in India
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Was Barbara's daughter Baraba Laura and did she marry a Bird
Yes - marriage 1951 on freebmd. She died 2004 in Cornwall
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Was Barbara's daughter Baraba Laura and did she marry a Bird
Yes - marriage 1951 on freebmd
Thanks, then I think her mother was married to Frederick G Findley.
What's your connection to the family Carole?
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Norah was not born in England as there is no birth reg for her in 1910 and no entries with mmn Scrivener apart from Barbara
They also had a brother Edgar.
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No connection - all info found on freebmd etc
See my reply above re Gateley/Findley marriage
Constance did die in 1945 but has been incorrectly indexed as Pateley on freebmd. No correction can be notified as GRO index also shows Pateley
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Possible marriage for Edgar
Marriages Dec qtr 1947 Birmingham 9c 1019
Gateley Edgar P
Papadopoulou Anna P
Electoral register shows them in Birmingham 1955
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Hi, my husbands foster father was married Constance and Patrick's daughter Barbara and I went to school with Barbara's daughter.
So was your husband's foster father Frederick Findley?
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No connection - all info found on freebmd etc
See my reply above re Gateley/Findley marriage
Constance did die in 1945 but has been incorrectly indexed as Pateley on freebmd
Thanks, fortunately it is correct on find my past.
I use GRO a lot and freebmd a lot less.
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Full GRO index has surname as Pateley so strange FindMyPast has her as Gateley
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Full GRO index has surname as Pateley so strange FindMyPast has her as Gateley
They must have done their own transcribing.
Great to chat, thanks for the help. Time for me to sign off.
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Yes Barbara Laura did marry a Bird.
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See my reply #13
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Yes my husbands Foster father was Fred, but when I first met Fred his wife Barbara was dead an he had remarried. I knew Barbara and Ron Bird and was at school with their daughter.
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According to 1939 Register Leonora was born 14 NOV 1911 Dhanbaid
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Barbara Findley nee Gately died in Plymouth Devon July qtr 1964 & Frederick George Findlay remarried in Warwickshire October qtr 1964 to Kathleen E Hancock
Kathleen Edith Findley b 31.3.1915 died 1994 in Plymouth - birthyear matches freebmd entry for Kathleen E Hancock
Who is Leonora b 1911?
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Nora
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Picture does not answer my question. No mention of a Leonora/Nora in this thread so far until you just mentioned her name
Was she another of Constance's children?
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She is Barbara and Edgars sister. She was mentioned in replies 3,4,5,10 & 12 and I thought someone may be interested in the picture. If anyone is interested I have other photos but wont be able to do much till after Remembrance.
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She was Norah P when I found her hence the confusion with Leonora. Thought she was another one of the brood ;D